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(716, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1644416075, 95, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'When you want to share what was a UDIN moment for you, you can do so in this thread.\r\nAlthough dramatic, there are \"small UDINs\" and \"big UDINs\".\r\n\r\nI shared one of mine in a previous session: I suddenly realized at the airport that my passport was missing in my pocket! \r\nOne moment I felt completely stunned, then the sympathetic nerves set in and made me search feverish, run through the aisles, focus my eyes on the floor and almost bump into people. The feeling was a \"brain stem imparative: I MUST GET IT BACK!!!\" and it suppressed a hundred thoughts what would happen if I didn\'t!\r\nI had the good luck to really find it on the stairs, I shook with energy release, and recovered slowly on the flight. \r\nI have a certain affinity to losing things and a typical panicky emotional response when I lost someone or something out of sight.\r\nI know I lost a key as a kid which also felt that traumatic, and I even track it back to my after-birth experience of being separated from my mother and twin sister and through that having lost the ability in my left eye muscles to look to the left...', '72a64b0e174afee94c13c1a106ce15da', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', '', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(717, '16', 'forum', 714, 'Eve Kosko', 1644419556, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Presentation beforehand', 'Ah yes I see. \r\nAnd if its even just 30 minutes before, that would help. \r\nThank you Kora!!!', '426fb5f74ce793366cf060427848b6a3', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-714-426fb5f74c@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-b94b9a278d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(718, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1644420355, 22, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Trauma Releasing Exercises', 'For those who are interested in trying them out self-responsibly or together with a helper, I found [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2212|this article] describing the exercises on page 5 of 9.\r\nThis is a scientific article and a rewarding read for those who want to dive deeper into the research on trauma neurobiology!\r\n\r\n[https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2213|This article]  gives an overview and evaluation of Mind-Body skills for regulating the Autonomic Nervous System and touches on TRE on page 24 of 60.', 'd59bbe058d7de4867a28d687f137ece3', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', '', 'Kora-0-9dd3e57bfd@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(719, '16', 'forum', 718, 'Pr majda', 1644444718, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Trauma Releasing Exercises', 'Hi dear Kora!\r\n\r\nThank you so much for sharing that article. I will try the exercises suggested (highlighted in yellow). Do you have any videos or websites to suggest for the demonstration?\r\n\r\nBest regards. \r\n\r\nMajda,', '4ad68caaeff2bd7a368310458fbfa6a1', '', '', '160.176.185.184', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-718-4ad68caaef@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-9dd3e57bfd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(720, '16', 'forum', 719, 'Kora', 1644448336, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Trauma Releasing Exercises', 'Hi Majda,\r\nhere is a video where you can see how the exercises are done.\r\n{youtube movie=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeUioDuJjFI\"}', '478a9c764d5063f0eeb61020c71fd180', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-719-478a9c764d@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-718-4ad68caaef@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(721, '16', 'forum', 716, 'ousaima', 1644451871, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Hi Kora , \r\nThanks for sharing your story as an example it made things more clear \r\n\r\nOne of my UDIN moments was also at the airport! Airports seem to embrace lots of UDIN moments:) \r\n\r\nMy husband flight was to germany for work and I managed to spend my time with my kids with my brother and sister In Abudhabi to have a nice vacation until he’s back ! \r\nGoing on a trip with my babies was a big challenge but my sister was encouraging me just to challenge myself and do it so we can have fun together then in Abudhabi and that I’ll forget all the trip exhaustion when I land . \r\n\r\nThe feelings were mixed and the challenges with my kids were big( Diapers Changing, breatfeeding , and even toilet visits for toddlers)  ! My husband will drive us to the airport and next day he’ll head to Germany ! \r\n\r\nI did pass all the challenges successfully until we finally reached Abudhabi airport , My sister and brother waiting down and only stairs seperate us , i’m doing the last check up and my heart was beating quickly to see them and we were more than happy that one final step. Until I hug my sister and go to her home and relax ! My sympathetic nervous system was working here ( high heart rate, high adrenaline and lots of energy ) \r\n\r\nHere came someone working at the last station and offered to help me to finish quickly as he saw my kids and took my passport to finish the last step but then he came back and told me that regulations here say that i must enter Abudhabi with My husband as My Visa is like this ! I told him i entered Dubai Many times before and there wasn’t any problem but he insisted that these are the rules of Abudhabi! Here my heart was about to bump out of my chest ! High heart beats , my hands were shaking and my stress level was high ( sympathetic action) \r\nProblem couldn’t be solved lots of employees tried to help as I was fainting and trembling , I couldn’t see my sister down and I can’t be back home as my husband will be in Germany \r\nAnd I have to go back on the same flight to reach my home before husband flight and that was impossible ! \r\nI was in a sympathetic fight and flight reaction after hours I was about to be paralyzed ! I couldn’t breathe normally , my kids were crying ! Everything went bad , my trembling hands are no longer trembling , couldn’t move from my place , i felt my heart will stop beating ! And a very bad headache as I cried hardly along these long hours trying to find a solution ( i think that was feign death ) Dorsal Vagal working ! Half paralyzed couldn’t move anymore couldn’t even hold my kids hands ! All employees trying to help to make a way to get me in ! With no use at all) \r\n The only thing I remember was moving is my GI system , I had to go to the toilet badly but my legs are hardly moving ( diarrhea attack i’ll name it for me and fir the kids) the cause of this as I now know was an old brain stem theme / Chunk conflict / plus action/ more bowel movement ) as I couldn’t understand why all this happened) as well as a new brain theme as I was feeling so bad and blaming the employee at my country side why he didn’t inform us about this before departure as we asked him to check if our Visa was just right and if there’s anything to do before leaving to Abudhabi) I felt lots of anger towards that employee ! And I blamed myself as well ! New brain theme conflict / performance and contact conflict/ medulla/ Cortex ) minus action / weakness in muscles as I couldn’t move from my place! \r\n\r\nConclusion : sympathetic reaction as first trigger strikes, parasympathetic Dorsal ventral vague in action as trigger levels went high and stress moments got longer \r\nWith conflicts on both old and New brain theme levels with plus and minus actions in both stress levels \r\n\r\nAfter a long day I made it to go back on the same flight and I calmed down at the airplane as I knew I’ll catch up before my husband’s flight ( couldn’t say that my ventral vague was working here plz correct me at this point as I was so tired , still not feeling the harmony of ventral vague! , crying all the way back , my heart beat was back to normal but I was out of energy ( it wasn’t feign death here or would we say I was in feign death state? ) ,and I was like this for about a week or more ! Crying, depressed, disappointed, couldn’t eat , sleeping all the time,don’t want to see anyone or talk to anyone  ( I think  it was a feign death where the dorsal vague was working if I’m not wrong \r\n\r\nAfter about two weeks , My ventral vague reacted as , my husband was back , and we discussed what was The whole meaning behind this and he said that what we see sometimes as a curse could really be a bless that we’ll never realize at the moment of depression ( we didn’t know that this was called a META meaning ) \r\nBut with his support I got out of that feign death , climbed the ladder again and my ventral vague was working as I was surrounded with lots of love and I could see my friends and gather and laugh again and that took me back to normal in a few weeks gradually shifting from dorsal vague , feign death to ventral vague harmony but I don’t know if I can relate that to something happened in my childhood or an old emotional situation \r\n\r\nBut what I’m sure about that this made me always nervous through traveling and I don’t know if I can relate this to s recent colon attack that almost got me to hospital at one of the airports , now I can relate shile I’ m writing this , but this first UdIN moment was about 10 years ago and my last colon attack (severe diarrhea) was about 3 years ago \r\n\r\nBetween these years I traveled a lot with no GI reaction though! Only feeling stressed every time ! \r\n So I’m not sure if this severe colon attack at the airport recently can be related to that experience or not ! \r\n\r\nMay be conflict at that time wasn’t resolved as I think ! ? That’s why any similar exhaustion at airports may lead to same reaction ? But why didn’t appear during all these years ? \r\n\r\nCan I relate this also to another severe colon attack ( I called it like this as doctors couldn’t even no the reason and made many tests suspecting even colon cancer ! But found nothing ! ) that second severe attack hit immediately after first ceaserian surgery first day after birth but this time was prolonged attacks for about 40 days couldn’t eat and drink things other than yogurt and water and sometimes pieces of bread ! \r\nPlz help in this as I think other overlapping conflicts were there through those years', '91693bf08d36c973970ffe59a8ddc188', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-716-91693bf08d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(722, '16', 'forum', 721, 'Kora', 1644492573, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Thank you Ousaima for sharing that drama!\r\nYes of course you had an UDIN in the airporrt, and went into sympathetic first and dorsal vagal later when things were getting hopeless. The flight back was a stress phase, the resolution came first when meeting your husband again who succeeded to awaken your ventral vagus and social engagement system. \r\nThe diarrhea attack is a typical emergency stress reaction to relieve yourself and let go \"before dying\", and many know the urge during exam situations, too. In your second severe attack your nerves must have felt near death,too \r\nYour limbic brain saved the circumstances of the airport and travelling which made you feel stressed every time since, but obviously the stress level felt more manageable in most cases.\r\nWhen working on that, you might use the META-meaning you found together with your husband in order to come back to faith in your path of life, that surrendering to this meaning  can bring us out of conflict and open us for the new and unexpected. Your guts wouldn\'t hold on to your ideas and expectations and \"helped\" you to let go of them. Being flexible and faithful in that everything will be ok would relieve your bowels from doing that for you...?\r\n.', '5ff4378d9c23c725db62aaba2087a6b7', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-721-5ff4378d9c@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-716-91693bf08d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(723, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1644535955, 69, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What is the meaning of viruses in meta- health?', 'Hi Kora,\r\nI wonder if I could ask you if Meta health has a similar understanding of viruses, please?\r\nin the first 45 seconds of this video, he says that viruses are excretions of a toxic cell.\r\nhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/ZSN3erJUqjDo/?fbclid=IwAR27ucd12qIUH60hUe0Vo-FyKLTDoO-ljvZal2ilInJHmK2eq1KS0oB0aQs\r\nOn page 18 of the Eybl book it is mentioned that they are sort of firefighters but the mentioned above seems to make the most sense. We fight an infection and we excrete stuff from our cells.\r\n\r\nIt\'d be just interesting to know what the Meta-health theory is, please?\r\n\r\nMany thanks,\r\n\r\nLucia\r\n\r\nAnswer from Kora:\r\n\r\nHey Lucia,\r\n>\r\n> I am aware of those different views on viruses, and many in META-Health\r\n> tend to follow the exosome theory or Lanka\'s theory. META-Health itself\r\n> doesn\'t have one view, because the definition of the term \"virus\" is not\r\n> universally the same and we want to keep an open mind that allows\r\n> different perspectives.\r\n> I shared my own view in my comments in the book: obviously, viruses are\r\n> present in various symptom patterns, but they are also present\r\n> everywhere - they are equal with \"information\" or blueprints. Thoughts\r\n> and fears spread \"virally\" where there is resonance, and that\'s what\r\n> they are about as triggers - reactivating our \"old stuff\" and making us\r\n> susceptible to anothers\' story.\r\n> Otherwise they are a part of the ecosystem and balance the presence of\r\n> bacteria - in this function they are called bacteriophages - and thus\r\n> are in symbiosis with our bodies and self-regulation.\r\n> Is the term \"virus\" defined as \"toxin\" as the latin name suggests, this\r\n> relates to the concept of exosomes which consist of the waste from\r\n> cells, like during a regenerative process.\r\n>\r\n> For META-Health practice, extracting the individual meaning of a process\r\n> is most important, here we can use all of these perspectives :-)\r\n>\r\n> Would it be ok for you if we share this conversation in the forum?\r\n>\r\n> Love,\r\n> Kora\r\n>', 'c21d428f8e4194d864bd8c34794deaa9', '', '', '79.69.28.13', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-c21d428f8e@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(724, '16', 'forum', 719, 'Pr majda', 1644573024, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Trauma Releasing Exercises', 'Thank you so much Kora', '2dff29193f2b80e6f1d7eff0c5d53d8f', '', '', '196.77.60.91', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-719-2dff29193f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-719-478a9c764d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(725, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1644587366, 44, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What do Viruses mean in Meta-health?', ' Hi Kora,\r\n I wonder if I could ask you if Meta health has a similar understanding\r\nof viruses, please?\r\n In the first 45 seconds of this video, he says that viruses are\r\n excretions of a toxic cell.\r\n\r\n https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZSN3erJUqjDo/?fbclid=IwAR27ucd12qIUH60hUe0Vo-FyKLTDoO-ljvZal2ilInJHmK2eq1KS0oB0aQs\r\n\r\n On page 18 of the Eybl book, it is mentioned that they are sort of\r\n firefighters but the mentioned above seems to make the most sense. We fight infection and we excrete stuff from our cells.\r\n\r\n It\'d be just interesting to know what the Meta-health theory is, please?\r\n\r\n Many thanks,\r\n\r\n Lucia\r\n\r\n\r\nAnswer from Kora:\r\n\r\nHey Lucia,\r\n>\r\n> I am aware of those different views on viruses, and many in META-Health\r\n> tend to follow the exosome theory or Lanka\'s theory. META-Health itself\r\n> doesn\'t have one view, because the definition of the term \"virus\" is not\r\n> universally the same and we want to keep an open mind that allows\r\n> different perspectives.\r\n\r\n> I shared my own view in my comments in the book: obviously, viruses are\r\n> present in various symptom patterns, but they are also present\r\n> everywhere - they are equal with \"information\" or blueprints. Thoughts\r\n> and fears spread \"virally\" where there is resonance, and that\'s what\r\n> they are about as triggers - reactivating our \"old stuff\" and making us\r\n> susceptible to anothers\' story.\r\n\r\n> Otherwise they are a part of the ecosystem and balance the presence of\r\n> bacteria - in this function they are called bacteriophages - and thus\r\n> are in symbiosis with our bodies and self-regulation.\r\n\r\n> Is the term \"virus\" defined as \"toxin\" as the latin name suggests, this\r\n> relates to the concept of exosomes which consist of the waste from\r\n> cells, like during a regenerative process.\r\n>\r\n> For META-Health practice, extracting the individual meaning of a process\r\n> is most important, here we can use all of these perspectives :-)\r\n>\r\n> Would it be ok for you if we share this conversation in the forum?\r\n>\r\n> Love,\r\n> Kora\r\n>', '10aa9edc19fae671e93acfdb78fdc17e', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-0-40ad9d3c46@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(726, '16', 'forum', 721, 'ousaima', 1644588808, 6, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Thanks Kora ,\r\nSomething came to my mind while reading this again  I managed several times telling myself what could go worse at the airport , I almost reached death , but I finally survived and that’s what I keep in mind everytime i have fears to have the same attacks ! That brings myself to ventral vagal state again\r\nbut what was weird is that my second severe attack came in different characteristics !!recurrent toilet visits for about two continuous hours to toilet with only 3 minutes break !my two daughters had almost the same reaction( so severe ) , \r\n\r\nCould it be because they had also VAGOKS of the first UdIN moment we had together when they were kids! Or can we say when they saw that their mother is so sick at the airport that makes a new trigger that makes a new conflict in old brain about safety and chunk conflicts both together ! As stress phase begin then they have a plus action regarding their bowel movements! \r\n\r\nBut what I noticed is that may be it’s more about the level of Exhaustion we reached in that dorsal vagal ( feign death ) state when we faced That first  UDIN moment \r\n\r\nBecause now while I’m writing I realized it’s may be that feign death with what it brought of severe exhaustion and all other symptoms accompanied at that moment is what it’s all about ( fear of having thus again / a new conflict / New brain theme, stability and performance issue and an old brain theme / not being safe) \r\n\r\nAs When I reach exhaustion in any situation either there was a bad experience or a good one, in airport or in any other place  ,i’ll always end up with a severe diarrhea attack emptying my bowels many times with less than one minute between an attack and another for about an hour or more until sometimes I reach emergency room to do something to survive and that brings an overlapping conflict that makes things worse everytime! A new conflict related to old brain and New brain level \r\nOld brain ,/ feeling not safe / about to die \r\nNew brain / I don’t believe I can do it again / feeling guilt that I always ruin the nice moments of traveling leaving bad memories for the whole family/ \r\n\r\nThese overlapping conflicts I think make the stress phase more prolonged with more energy to be burned out \r\nThat’s what make me suspect that these prolonged diarrhea attacks with these severe symptoms are more like healing peaks !!( not a normal urge or GI movement  like the one happens at exams or the one we experienced the first UDIN moment, \r\nI know I’m still mixing this phase thing but I’ll explain why I thought like this :) \r\n\r\nChunk problem / GI movement/ that was at the first UDIN moment in Abudhabi and it was just like you said an urge when you have an exam and that still is reasonable for me \r\n\r\nSecond severe attack wasn’t at the airport ! It was after C-section after birth , second day immediately after birth \r\nHere I think the attack was a healing peak :)\r\n\r\nbecause this time it was so severe recurrent urge to go almost the whole day for 40 days and even more ( prolonged stress before giving birth thinking about the whole procedure and how can i leave my kids home until I give birth and things like that , as well as I did have My C section totally awake after several epidural trials with lots of failures doctors just couldn’t succeed from the first trial and I heard all doctors speaking how hard the situation is / all these details meant that  my sympathetic autonomic part was working and many overlapping conflicts causing prolonged stress phase ) \r\n\r\nAfter the trigger was resolved ( the day after birth ) my body wanted to burn out all that energy stored ! Is that right ? And it came out as severe bowel movements that doctors named as Irritable bowel syndrome without being sure it is ! \r\n\r\nHere comes my second question does this relate to the first UDIN moment at airport with all what it held \r\nOr is it a New UDIN moment \r\n\r\nConclusion: \r\n-First UDIN moment at airport / GI movement / feign death  exhaustion made a bad fingerprint in mind or left some VAGOKS\r\n\r\n-Second trigger/ Exhaustion before and during C-section/ feign death before surgery with same characteristics/ resolved after trigger was over but left severe colon attacks ( healing peak) \r\n\r\n-third situation at airport again /related to first UDIN Moment/ this time wasn’t a healing peak it was during stress phase and was relieved once the trigger is no longer there (reaching home) \r\nOpposite to the second situation above \r\nThat’s what make me confused :)\r\n\r\n_4th situation was after lot of exhaustion after a long trip by car ( no airport, but still traveling and Exhaustion) and a very big anger conversation ( physical and emotional exhaustion) \r\nAfter the  problem was resolved and everything seemed to be settled I had an attack and it was the worst of all while I was in a very joyful moment having dinner with my husband and kids (trigger was gone, ventral vagal working as we were having fun  ) and we were all enjoying ( after a long exhausting day physically and emotionally)\r\n\r\nHere I suspect that the colon diarrhea attacks were a healing peak ) rather than a stress phase response \r\nand could we relate it to the firstUDIN moment ? \r\n\r\nLots of attacks come and go and sometimes more severe than other times but always after Exhaustion physically and Emotionally \r\nSometimes during the stress situation and other times in the most joyful moments !', '1e424cd3c77fb6e92f46b2f810ec98ec', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-721-1e424cd3c7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-721-5ff4378d9c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(727, '16', 'forum', 726, 'Kora', 1644593368, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthe symptoms in healing peaks are similar to those in a stress phase, but come suddenly \"out of the blue\" (like after your anger situation) and take only a short time.\r\nWhen they come as a stress reaction to an overwhelming chunk or a toxic chunk, the diarrhea has the purpose to relieve you of the poison or burden.\r\n In a healing peak there is probably no poison or burden anymore, but there was trauma energy left in the tissue to get rid of.\r\nWhen your daughters reacted the same way, this is because they were in resonance with you. Did you mention they were babies still? Babies and small kids react very often on behalf of their mother/parents.', '8b6071d1683e8ed2ba877f07583eb5df', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-726-8b6071d168@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-721-1e424cd3c7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(728, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 2', 'wiki page', 711, 'ousaima', 1644597654, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Extra question', 'Hi kora and Lucia , \r\nI was wondering why lack of appreciation and connection is counted here as an old brain theme ? Isn’t it a New Brain theme ? Or does it have both themes because it make her feel attacked and unprotected ?', 'd95151fb3481833ca9d1c9231e7f4013', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-711-d95151fb34@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(729, '16', 'forum', 726, 'ousaima', 1644602929, 7, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Yea regarding my daughters they were kids at the first UDIN moment \r\n Did I get what you said right ? You mean what I experienced was not always a stress phase symptom , in my anger situation it was a healing peak! Because it was only for two hours and everything then disappeared \r\n\r\nSo I’m fluctuating between two things , VAGOKS of a UDIN moment \r\nand  stress triggers with their healing peaks like also in the birth condition ? !', '3fc9b6537ffdf9cf60a2b4260b4a43f8', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-726-3fc9b6537f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-726-8b6071d168@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(730, '16', 'forum', 729, 'Kora', 1644606867, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Yes, if I got your timeline correctly it seems to have been both stress responses but later also healing peaks among your bouts of diarrhea.\r\nYou could draw a timeline when the conflicts happened and when the diarrhea came to be sure about that.\r\nIn healing peaks, we are reminded of a stressful situation both by the physical symptoms but often also by psychological ones like bouts of anger or panic, because the same energy is released.\r\nDoes that make sense?', '83ead038662ed868a84a33fdcadb42e2', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-729-83ead03866@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-726-3fc9b6537f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(731, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 2', 'wiki page', 728, 'Kora', 1644607823, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Extra question', 'The Old Brain theme is the \"lack of\" (safety) that prompts a sympathetic \"plus-reaction\" (walking more, overexertion), whereas the New Brain theme of \"Not trusting myself enough to support myself, not feeling respected, undervalued, and not appreciated\" triggers a dorsal vagal \"minus\" reaction of restricted movement. Both are steps on the \"autonomic ladder\" and different answers to feelings and thoughts that originated in significant emotional experiences /UDIN moments.', '587fda55960041e2295fd317522d6ac6', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-728-587fda5596@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(732, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 2', 'wiki page', 731, 'ousaima', 1644611908, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Amazing explanation', 'Thanks a lot Kora ! That’s an amazing explanation \r\n\r\nLucia! I promise you’ll find a way to your healing ! You are already beginning your healing process here  as we are all doing! Let’s enjoy the journey :)', '83a964065d999e782ffa33918969cf2b', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-731-83a964065d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(733, '16', 'forum', 729, 'ousaima', 1644619219, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Thanks Kora that’s really great ! \r\nBut the last lines in your reply  mean that sometimes a healing peak could burn the energy that was stored in the stress phase as anger bouts without necessarily having any physical bout ? ! Did i get it right ? \r\n\r\nThat’s really a great help ! Thanks again Kora ! I’m speechless !', '3a35c5304f8d0c02a40eadc9996f0afa', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-729-3a35c5304f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-729-83ead03866@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(734, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 2', 'wiki page', 732, 'Lucia Franziska', 1644707082, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Thank you :-)', 'I did get confused about old and new brain themes. Kora has confirmed in our last session however that there can only be one theme, either old or new, in one organ at a time. that\'s my current understanding. When I first posted about them further up I wasn\'t aware of that.', 'c12c4afa8d4360726232fdeb2dcc5a2f', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-732-c12c4afa8d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'n', 'n'),
(735, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1644782131, 26, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Feelings emotions thoughts', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nI wonder what\'s the META-Health perspective on what comes first: the thought or the emotion. \r\n\r\nDo we first think (even if its unconciously) or do we first feel?\r\n\r\nAlso is feeling the same as emotion?\r\n\r\nAnd: I suppose a belief is the result of a feeling or an emotion becoming a perception and therefore in further sage a belief.\r\n\r\nSo: feeling/emotion ->perception -> belief.\r\n\r\nAm I right?', '49f21d9436db15100d757efba44ada80', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-49f21d9436@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(736, '16', 'forum', 716, 'ousaima', 1644788230, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Hi kora , \r\nDo Meta health have a point of view regarding food poisoning ? Let’s say bacterial food poisoning ! Or there are some health conditions that can’t be explained from a Meta point of view , and plz if there’s any article regarding this i’d love to have a look at if possible:) \r\nThanks in advance', '187fee6a242a1abdf23b13dee1ece6da', '', '', '94.98.35.191', '', NULL, 'ousaima-716-187fee6a24@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(737, '16', 'forum', 735, 'Kora', 1644796576, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Feelings emotions thoughts', 'Hi Eve,\r\ngreat that you bring this up, and we\'ll talk about these in the sessions as well. This is my take:\r\nFeelings can be very vague and stem from your organs and autonomic state so they are oldest.\r\nEmotions are the translation of somatic feelings into conscious perception and expression. But these terms are also used as synonyms.\r\nThoughts are created in the conscious brain, often to explain a feeling, but once created they also trigger feelings. Sometimes thoughts and emotions are hard to distinguish.\r\nA belief is our narrative how the world works, they consist of thoughts which we tend to defend because we identify with them, so they create the frame for our experience.\r\n\r\nBut I\'m open for other views and explanations :-D', '66030e43aeba7566975358c55a6da7fb', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-735-66030e43ae@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-49f21d9436@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(738, '16', 'forum', 736, 'Kora', 1644798092, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflextions', 'Poisoning is an influence from the environment, so its symptoms aren\'t necessarily connected to conflicts, but poisoning is actually a conflict on the physical/chemical level, like a chunk of waste.\r\nYet, depending on our state we can be more or less tolerant to poisoning. When our liver and lymphatics work well, we might not have the same level of symptoms. Like with alcohol, I have usually a much lower tolerance than Thorsten, but it depends a lot on the circumstances.\r\nHere are some experiences I found on the net: [https://boards.straightdope.com/t/resistance-to-food-poisoning/452788|Resistance to food poisoning?]', '9251ee52d5d838dcb0cac710e5790d8b', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-736-9251ee52d5@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-716-187fee6a24@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(739, '16', 'forum', 735, 'Pr majda', 1644836992, 6, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Feelings emotions thoughts', 'Hi Eve and Kora, \r\n\r\nInteresting discussion. \r\nI had felt the same confusion when reading about the connection between the three elements. from my point of view, perception is a translation of what surrounds us that will be transmitted and filtered by generated emotions (like a personal reading map of the world). Beliefs are a terminal conscious representation of this process. example: I am taking an exam (event), I feel anxious (tachycardia, sweating, etc.), I experience a lack of confidence (emotion), I believe that any evaluation is stressful. \r\nCan you correct me?\r\n\r\nBests,', '6520c99ad7df0ec6ba3941a906a1ea89', '', '', '102.78.151.244', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-735-6520c99ad7@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-49f21d9436@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(740, '16', 'forum', 716, 'Pr majda', 1644839610, 7, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'Hi Oussaima and Kora, \r\nI read your discussions with great interest. Thank you for sharing.\r\nI learned a lot through UdiN while experienced at the airport.\r\nI have now corrected the idea about the healing peak: It is a discharge of energy still stored in the tissues after a  UDIN moment but also a reactivation by neuroception (VAGKOS) (is it the same?)\r\nMy question: from the Meta health perspective, did the repetition of the same symptom lead to the analysis of its duration and of the previous period in order to distinguish between healing peak and stress phase?\r\n\r\nThank you again Kora,', '80df6a2ad3eed7904f4c2accb8d24d9c', '', '', '102.78.151.244', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-716-80df6a2ad3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(741, '16', 'forum', 739, 'Kora', 1644840044, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Feelings emotions thoughts', 'Hello Majda,\r\nYes, all of these create the \"inner map\" how we evaluate situations and interact with our world. It begins on the unconscious level in feelings of safety or unsafety, which produce an autonomic response and somatic feelings. In your example, when taking an exam you felt unsafe (here due to a lack of confidence) and had a sympathetic response (tachycardia, sweating, etc.) which you identified as feeling anxious. (To me, fear/anxiety is an emotion.) Your brain explains the fear for you by a thought like \"I can\'t do this, I don\'t like this\" which describes your lack of confidence. Your brain ties the emotion to the situation and a belief is created \"exams are stressful, because I am judged\". The belief primes your expectations and prepares your responses for the future, you are co-creating your reality.\r\nCompare this to the slide in our [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2204|first session] with that title!', '035c3ed7ad02d234dab15980195132c0', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-739-035c3ed7ad@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-735-6520c99ad7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(742, '16', 'forum', 740, 'Kora', 1644841048, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'Hello Majda,\r\nthe healing peak is not equal to neuroception or VAKOGS, because it does not need a trigger to start it. It comes in the regeneration phase by itself and marks the return to autoregulation after the first counterreaction to the responses in the stress phase.\r\nHowever, if it is felt as dramatic and dangerous ( = neuroception of our inner state), a healing peak can become another UDIN and a vicious cycle is created. This would be typically the case in heart palpitations or seizures.\r\n\r\nSo, to summarize: UDINs and VAKOGS trigger an autonomic response and organ reactions, these reactions can last and develop during the stress phase, until its resolution.\r\nThen the regeneration phase sets in with typical symptoms of reversal, which often make you feel very sick. The healing peak comes without needing a VAKOG trigger, but it feels like a short reactivation of the stress because the energy is discharged. The healing peak isn\'t always dramatic, but it can be in certain tissues like ((Nervous - Motoric Innervation|nerves)) or the ((Circulatory - Coronary Veins (intima)|heart)). Then there is a danger of a new UDIN.', 'e987e95cd349a537858597b16c3f5b1f', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', '', 'Kora-740-8198910fc2@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-716-80df6a2ad3@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(743, '16', 'forum', 682, 'camila', 1644871402, 7, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 3: own reflections', 'Hi Kora, I want to share mine even if it is late please.\r\nSymptom1; Low back pain (chronic phase)\r\n1. It came abruptly and increased by time.\r\n2. Overall reaction sometimes (accompanied with lower belly or ovaries  swelling and pain few times) Sometimes only my lower back.\r\n3. It get stronger when I rest( sit down for long time) or when I stand for long time. Decreased when I walk.\r\n4. Yes I had it before, it started when I was 19 till now.\r\n5. I was under pressure, stress, frustration and anxiety of study because I failed the year before and I felt that I cant do it because it wasn\'t  my native language. Also I was in a bad relationship with my father (my support).\r\n6.Yes, the same like answer 2.( I don\'t really understand the difference between the two questions)\r\nEmotion: Frustration self-doubt. I can\'t do it. I am too weak to do it. I can\'t get out of here.\r\nLumbar : Passion megalomania ( I didn\'t understand exactly this part)\r\n\r\nSymptom 2: Sinusitis (Chronic phase or unresolved conflict not sure)\r\n1. Slowly\r\n2. It is an overall reaction (sinus, pressure in the ears and headache)\r\n3. same\r\n4. Yes since I was a child, I had difficult to breath from my nose.\r\n5. I don\'t remember what happened when I was a child, but now is chronic.\r\n6.With ear pressure. When sinus get stronger ear pressure get stronger.\r\nIt began 10 years ago with a runny nose, when I was separated from a loved person who disappear  and country ( scen-oriented separation conflict)\r\nAfter years of searching for the person and wishing to return to my country I stopped searching and had a blocked nose since then.\r\nI had a very similar situation in my childhood as well.#\r\nI don\'t know if that is the problem with my sinus but there was a ring there', 'ff3f93465dfdb2cee28ef50bf481d4c1', '', '', '90.254.189.114', '', NULL, 'camila-682-ff3f93465d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-e78403fb23@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(744, '16', 'forum', 743, 'Kora', 1644928517, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 3: own reflections', 'Hi Camila,\r\nthanks for sharing!\r\nSo we learn about your back pain:\r\n*it is an ongoing issue, there must be triggers that reactivate the process\r\n*It started abruptly, there must have been a significant point (a damage or a conflict resolution) right before it began. It gets more when you rest means it\'s mainly during your body\'s attempt to repair.\r\n*It co-reacts with other organs (ovaries), probably the hormonal shift in the menstrual cycle is a trigger (a regeneration trigger or a conditioned trigger warning for a threat). Hormones create a general reaction, while the spine and certain vertebrae make a more local reaction, and there are 2 conflict themes interacting here\r\n*It began with 19 years, means you had the \"original\" conflict at that age already. It was about your self-esteem and lack of suppport. In addition, you had the \"abandonment conflict\" which made healing circumstances worse. The ovary/hormonal theme may have been about the loss of a person, or about your role as a woman?\r\n\r\nIn your case this is not about a megalomania. This is a special thing which we\'ll discuss soon when we cover \"constellations\".\r\n\r\nAnd about your sinusitis:\r\n*It is a repetitive pattern that grew with time - more weight was added in the process.\r\n*It feels like an overall reaction but I\'d say it\'s local and affects structures in your head.\r\n*The symptoms (inflammation, pressure by oedema) tell us about a repair phase after a \"loss of sensory contact\" (smelling, seeing, hearing) which your story confirms.\r\n*Again, this is accompanied by a simultaneous abandonment conflict that adds more fluid/pressure.\r\n*You were sensitized to the theme already as a child. \r\n\r\nSo, in order to stop the ongoing patterns, you want to make sure that these conflicts don\'t threaten you anymore.\r\nDo you have any ideas what will stabilize your self-esteem and enable you to let go of the need (or prpmise) to search for the persons that disappeared?', '8540d0229fb059d7ba608e124bb1a102', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-743-8540d0229f@www.meta-health.net', 'camila-682-ff3f93465d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(745, '16', 'forum', 716, 'verity', 1644939422, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'I experienced an UDIN moment about eight years ago when I was mugged in broad daylight in Cape Town. I was walking in a residential area with my mother towards the main road. There was a crossroads in front of us and a car raced across the intersection and pulled up to my right. A short strong man jumped out of the car and straight at me, he grabbed my bag and was punching me in the arm and shoulder to pull it off of me.\r\n\r\nAt that moment I completely froze and clenched my body around my bag I felt like I was out of my body and had no idea how to function or protect myself in that situation. I was screaming and shouting but it did not sound as though the noise was coming from me! At that moment there wasn\'t a feeling connected to the experience because I didnt feel as though it was happening to me. when I let go of my bag I chased after him and screamed a lot which felt like a huge release of energy and I felt a lot of anger.\r\n\r\nAfterwards I noticed three men standing on the opposite street corner who had just stood there and not done anything and my mother had also just stood there and not moved. I felt very alone at that moment, vulnerable and unprotected. Even though I know the feelings were irrational, it happened so fast! I still had this feeling that my own mother is meant to take care of me.. and doesn\'t anyone care?\r\n\r\nSome feelings regarding self worth came up as well especially when the policeman arrived and laughingly said that I shouldn\'t bother to report it as nothing will be done about it anyway... then I felt as though I had completely over reacted by shouting and fighting and should have just handed him my bag saying \'there you go! have a nice day! \' i also felt very disappointed in myself that I was unable to discharge the situation and take control of myself.\r\n\r\nI noticed those feeling of being unsafe and unprotected, its a bit of a recurring theme aswell as the belief that I am not worthy (which I think is common for all of us!) Why would someone go out of their way for me?\r\n\r\nThe sensory cues for danger that still trigger me would be hearing running footsteps around me, it always sets me on edge.', '811ae9a421505ff46a0e3386ea68a207', '', '', '79.73.102.169', '', NULL, 'verity-716-811ae9a421@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(746, '16', 'forum', 745, 'Kora', 1644942960, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'Thank you for sharing this, Verity!\r\nYour story completely documents the frozen, stunned UDIN, and then your sympathetic reaction. You were the heroine here and weren\'t hopeless when you ran and shouted! That was your brain stem in action, chasing after its chunk. And there was a discharge of energy which you should congratulate yourself for. Otherwise it might have given you ((Digestive - Tonsils|throat)) trouble or affected ((Endocrine - Thyroid - Follicular Epithelium|thyroid)) hormones, who knows?\r\nWhat happened next were following conflicts that created the self-devaluation and negative beliefs, which were immobilizing and \"depressive\", in that thought you better had controlled yourself. We are such herd animals that we want to adapt to what \"they all do\", and \"they\" were rather frozen or distanced! But health lies in that you attend to yourself and let it out, while being open for co-regulation with others in safety. Some debriefing with your mother might have been helpful.\r\nWhile the sensory cues seem to still be meaningful to keep you safe, the belief \"Why would someone go out of their way for me?\" could be reviewed. Yes why? If your \"Chunk mind\" would speak and you absolutely NEEDED to get through to your child or your treasure because... - then they would wouldn\'t they?', 'd30f06d103ac0f66c3a966d670442713', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-745-d30f06d103@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-716-811ae9a421@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(747, '16', 'forum', 745, 'verity', 1644956876, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'Wonderful! thanks so much Kora, that makes a lot of sense It did feel really good to scream and shout :)', '95b56e211900f03b2a7a668dfe9930e6', '', '', '79.73.102.169', '', NULL, 'verity-745-95b56e2119@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-745-d30f06d103@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(748, '16', 'forum', 735, 'Eve Kosko', 1644956898, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Feelings emotions thoughts', 'Thank you Kora!\r\n\r\nI always feel a little overwhelmed by complex explanations and have to read it more often in order to get it. I feel like a child who tries to understand higher math, but I\'ll get there ;-)', 'c344a340b838f002ed8a7a14dc010c98', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-735-c344a340b8@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-49f21d9436@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(749, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1644957116, 55, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Let\'s connect!', 'I\'m Eve Kosko and my number is: +18295153891 or koskoeve@gmail.com\r\n\r\nShall we make a Whats App group?\r\n\r\nAlso feel free to set me up with someone, or whoever wants to work with me just text me', 'fbf6eb4b2df195993a228448f2d66214', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', '', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(750, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1644966238, 91, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Do you have questions regarding the script or the documentation form?\r\nIf you like you can share your buddy exercise summarized in the form here, too.', '4c0c9f8f2c7d44025d3f322c51d14789', '', '', '188.238.64.172', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-4c0c9f8f2c@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(751, '16', 'forum', 743, 'camila', 1644997429, 3, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 3: own reflections', 'Hi kora, thank you for your answer.\r\nMy back pain these two years is much better than years before(telling me that I have improvement in my self-esteem and feel more supported) but I don\'t really understand why my sinus and ear pressure get worse even if the conflict was finished for me and stopped the searching 7 years ago. Do you think that still in the unconscious? Or do you mean that the feeling of abandonment still triggers me?', 'd6c66c0dcc138802830aa6d0e5b7034d', '', '', '90.254.189.114', '', NULL, 'camila-743-d6c66c0dcc@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-743-8540d0229f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(752, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 5', 'wiki page', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1645004709, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Getting together with a buddy', 'Where do we pair please?', '4b891a5f4f34a560992fa57721eb82ce', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-4b891a5f4f@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(753, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 5', 'wiki page', 752, 'Kora', 1645007505, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Getting together', 'Hi Lucia,\r\nwe want to create a participants contact list and asked everybody who wants to be contacted to reveal their dates to thorsten@meta-health.net.\r\nI saw that Eve also started a forum thread for contact. Then, you can decide together when and where to meet - Zoom or Skype or Whatsapp...', '40a4bedca43d1f45c9c47279da765ded', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-752-40a4bedca4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(754, '16', 'forum', 751, 'Kora', 1645008281, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 3: own reflections', 'Hi Camila,\r\nI think that there are still \"warning triggers\" that reactivate the pattern. Though the pressure belongs to the repair phase, meaning the stress is being resolved, feelings of loneliness/isolation will make symptoms worse. And then they themselves become a stressor, a \"secondary conflict\". \r\nSo you want to clear the original UDIN and also review the beliefs that it may have created and that still accompanied you. \r\nAnd you want to calm and reevaluate the symptoms themselves and the feelings and thoughts that they have created.', '4e131bac127ec76cfa7fbfec46c44c9b', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-751-4e131bac12@www.meta-health.net', 'camila-743-d6c66c0dcc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(755, '16', 'forum', 749, 'Kora', 1645008476, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Let\'s connect!', 'Hi Eve,\r\ngood idea with WhatsApp but I personally don\'t use it. No problem if you create a group there though!', '80537ad069f7b4d3bcd0f22c298531ee', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-749-80537ad069@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(756, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1645010535, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Buddying up', 'Hi if anybody is looking for a partner to work with to gain some experience let me know.\r\nmy email address is luciafranziska9@gmail.com\r\nI am based in the Uk so an hour apart from Central European time.\r\nThanks :-)\r\nLucia', 'a601356357dab9fbdfa63b80c6f9760e', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-0-a5880a1cff@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(757, '16', 'forum', 749, 'Lucia Franziska', 1645018862, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Let\'s connect!', 'Maybe we can ask all people first what platform most people are on?\r\nI am on WhatsApp too but also on many other platforms too.\r\n\r\nLucia', 'aa7fe1a8028414d9ece27bca6ef4dbde', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-749-aa7fe1a802@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(758, '16', 'forum', 749, 'ousaima', 1645020477, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Let\'s connect!', 'Hi everyone I’m also with you all , I don’t mind any platform . \r\n\r\nousaima@omarsuboh.com', '181256392a8eb9ea32433cc57dc042eb', '', '', '94.98.35.143', '', NULL, 'ousaima-749-181256392a@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(759, '16', 'forum', 716, 'Lucia Franziska', 1645036705, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 4: own reflections', 'Hi experienced an UDIN moment at an  Airport too. It was then still called Bombay.\r\nI had overslept and was way too late arriving minutes before the flight took off. I was told hat I had missed the flight.\r\nBecause I had met a European guy the day before who got stranded in Bombay without money for 6months and had no way to get back home I started uncontrollably raging at the airport. I remember that I was so out of my mind that I climbed over luggage and their counter or something. I didn\'t want to be stranded in  India too.\r\nThe man behind the counter literally said that he would put me on the flight because he didn\'t want people like me in his country. I was quite ashamed for making such a scene but incredibly relieved not having to sleep rough like the guy at the Bombay train station.\r\nMy autonomic response was fight and flight with the fear of dying in India.\r\nThought was \'I need to get out no matter what.\'\r\nI am unsure if that event made me believe that behaving badly would get me somewhere with people because it surely hasn\'t worked since. :-)', '4eb7f05d62276411fb40888ed353cbff', '', '', '78.151.54.169', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-716-89a0cbe563@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-920899dfd8@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(760, '16', 'forum', 749, 'Eve Kosko', 1645102115, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Let\'s connect!', 'I\'m fine with any other platform as well :-)', 'f4fe719956e340de424b5a644e0da2d7', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-749-f4fe719956@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(761, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1645102683, 27, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Detecting and releasing habits', 'I wonder if it\'s possible, just like symptoms, sickness or pain, to detect habits. Finding out why a person does that and than work on it and get rid of it. \r\nFor example some people bite their nails or pluck their hair, I bite the inner sides of my mouth. But no matter what I tried so far, nothing has ever worked to stop it because I do it unconciously.\r\nSoooo, I\'m ready to get enlightened ;-)', 'cc5b607feab9ffac7d86a8e5dd2bce84', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-cc5b607fea@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(762, '16', 'forum', 761, 'Kora', 1645103993, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Detecting and releasing habits', 'Hi Eve,\r\nhabits are basically strategies that seemed to fit at some time and then automatized. They are often connected to our respective \"constellations\" and can have VAKOGS triggers just like in neuroception. So finding out when they first appeared, in which situations they appear now, how you feel in such situations, what they generally do for you or can have done for you originally is the way to follow here as well.', '17a35f211d31e90063366befaf97698c', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-761-17a35f211d@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-cc5b607fea@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(763, '16', 'forum', 749, 'Kora', 1645105907, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Let\'s connect!', 'Thorsten created a [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-index.php?page=META-Pro+Chat|chat-function] here in the course, let\'s try if it\'s useful for to connect!', '014db575056e31549c8749ee047af86d', '', '', '78.30.6.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-749-014db57505@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f432184d86@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(764, '16', 'forum', 761, 'Eve Kosko', 1645113973, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Detecting and releasing habits', 'Okay cool. \r\nMaybe one day when it fits I\'m available too talk about it in class.\r\n\r\nThank you Kora!', 'bbe97ca6a307d82984922126621141ba', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-761-bbe97ca6a3@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-cc5b607fea@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(765, '16', 'forum', 750, 'ousaima', 1645377369, 15, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Hi Kora , \r\nThis is what I worked on for this task ! \r\nWith some points that I couldn’t understand mentioned at the step in the form :) \r\n\r\n1. Client ID: OG2202001\r\n2. Age: 50 Years\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: RIGHT-HANDED\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: MALE\r\n5. Description of symptom/s (e.g. change in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):\r\n• LEFT heel pain as well as some pain in the left foot / client described it to be more intense in the heel.\r\n• No medical diagnosis.\r\n• No change in color or shape.\r\n• Client described his pain as the pain when you hit something, he feels pain only when he uses his feet or when he stands, and it’s interrupted not consistent as he doesn’t feel the pain if he’s not pressing on his heel or not using his feet\r\n• Localized pain.\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any): No medication used.\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\n• Didn’t experience this pain before\r\n• First appeared abruptly after hours from a car accident ,that was unexpected(UDIN  moment)but with no physical or car damage/simple accident.\r\n• Pain connected to a relief after accident finished /absence of trigger.\r\n• Pain is stronger when he uses his feet.\r\n• All this indicates repair phase.\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n• Client felt he should have moved quickly or run to avoid the crasher at least he should have watched in the mirror to know that the woman driving the car behind him was losing control and is about to hit his car/performance conflict.\r\n• Feet and heel meaning from the client’s perspective:\r\nOrgans to keep him still and standing.\r\n\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n• I have always To move away or run if I see a woman driving behind me or any other drivers coming closer from behind.\r\n• Women don’t know how to drive or to prevent an accident.\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n• Feet and more intense pain in heel.\r\n• Feet (wiki):\r\n• Self-devaluation about mobility or disability to do something by feet and in my client case he couldn\'t use his feet to move faster to avoid the crash and wasn\'t able to run.\r\n• Heels(wiki):\r\n• Not able to control the situation, to brake, to crash\r\n• Left side /different eye level in his case as he considered the woman that made the accident as a child because she was so weak in the situation and about to cry, he didn\'t feel she was at the same eye level.\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n• Repair phase.\r\n• Sympathetic nervous system response at the accident moment, a ventral vagal response after accident during the day when the pain suddenly appeared.\r\n• New brain theme/performance and devaluation\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): \r\nNo evidence of any VAGOKS\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (Personality, typical behavior): \r\nI couldn’t do this as I still don’t know what is constellation /if it’s about family same condition then NO There isn’t.\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms): \r\nI couldn’t also did this as I didn’t understand it.\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:\r\n• What brings the client back to safety / Depending on a religious belief that a client has, we confirmed together that \"What afflicted you couldn\'t have missed you, and what missed you couldn\'t have afflicted you\".\r\n• Reversal of the negative belief / Women can drive safely as well as men. I drove many times before without necessarily having any crash from behind. Cars behind are as safe as cars in front of you.\r\n \r\nPain was totally gone the day after we talked.\r\n\r\nMETA health practice wasn’t done as I didn’t understand all the points \r\nBut what I recommended the client to integrate the wisdom we reached to in his every life', 'fb1a44d76d78ed606c20b50cf9028caf', '', '', '178.87.196.228', '', NULL, 'ousaima-750-fb1a44d76d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4c0c9f8f2c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(766, '16', 'forum', 765, 'Kora', 1645399374, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Thank you for this study Ousaima, well done!\r\nAs for point 7: \"• Pain connected to a relief after accident finished /absence of trigger.\r\n• Pain is stronger when he uses his feet.\r\n• All this indicates repair phase. \" \r\nplease put these items under point 5 as they refer to the symptom itself.\r\n\r\nPoints 13 and 14 don\'t apply in this case. We only fill these in when we believe a constellation or inner conflicts (an inner tug-of-war) to be present.\r\n\r\nMETA-health practice in this case was to attend to his pain directly, to relieve the energy and to prevent the \"((Urinary - Kidneys - Collecting Tubules|KCT syndrome))\" (the abandonment conflict that inflates oedema and pain)', '19d6d15c8ac725a74069d696a70c3a21', '', '', '109.240.13.190', '', NULL, 'Kora-765-19d6d15c8a@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-750-fb1a44d76d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(767, '16', 'forum', 765, 'ousaima', 1645419015, 7, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Hi Kora, \r\nThank you for explaining,everything is clear now!\r\nBut the last thing about KCT , do you mean that usually people will necessarily have it if they didn’t reduce that energy as we did in this case? \r\nThat means they will have some edema , some weight gain and pain in some joints ! \r\n\r\nI mean that’s what usually happens? Or not necessarily?', '1d05a7aa976f988bdc2c9c1c785ec412', '', '', '178.87.196.228', '', NULL, 'ousaima-765-1d05a7aa97@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-765-19d6d15c8a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(768, '16', 'forum', 767, 'Kora', 1645433158, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'It is something often observed when people feel lonely or in a strange environment. There are circumstances that can suppress or replace this pattern, so you can\'t say it necessarily comes, but we want to make sure that people feel safe and taken care of to avoid these complications.', '5438565b6af580905969ca074c8955d3', '', '', '188.238.209.225', '', NULL, 'Kora-767-5438565b6a@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-765-1d05a7aa97@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(769, '16', 'forum', 767, 'ousaima', 1645446907, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Thanks a lot for explaining', '0938ac7243b61b23b1901988e94d61c0', '', '', '178.87.196.228', '', NULL, 'ousaima-767-0938ac7243@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-767-5438565b6a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(770, '16', 'forum', 750, 'ousaima', 1645447025, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'Hi Kora , \r\nThis is another case I worked on plz take a look and explain for me some points and mistakes if possible :) \r\n\r\nMedical history\r\n1. Client ID: OG2202002\r\n2. Age: 33 Years\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Right Handed\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Female\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):  \r\n•	Pimples and acne all over the face more in the right side of the face  ,some with pus and some inflamed with scars of old pimples /more in the same eye level side.\r\n•	Client described pimples to be itching and sometimes burning and painful.(this gave me a hint to her emotional status after loss of contact she feels burnt emotionally because she can’t share her feelings with others as well as she feels scarred emotionally which leaves a scar always in her face after pimples disappearance /plz correct me here kora if this analysis can be related like this or not).\r\n•	Increased appetite accompanied with pimple appearance/change in function in another organ.\r\n•	Growing and interrupted during different periods of time /always appear after loss of contact and gets worse each time/chronic process.\r\n•	No medical diagnosis.\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any): \r\n•	No treatments .\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\n•	 First trigger,UDIN/loss of contact that she wasn’t supposed to meet because of her family trust and cultural boundaries she felt she ruined her image in front of her parents when they knew about this kind of contact with these kind of people playing with their daughter emotions then she stopped contacting them feeling ashamed of what she did and disgusted of these kind of dirty people as well as feeling her reputation,image and trust was ruined stability and performance conflict as well/here was the first significant appearance pimples all over her face./stress phase but with plus action instead of minus why ?\r\n•	Second trigger was when she worked in an environment that she feels she’s supposed to be in a better one because she’s a doctor and was working in a school with teachers which in her perception gave her less image than she deserves \r\n•	Third trigger was when she lost contact again with someone she likes and wishes he’ll propose to her she used to see at the university and used to speak with him most often,the trigger was when he graduated and went back to his country(loss of contact),she got pimples as well as her face was burnt all over even skin was thickened and inflamed and looks like it was burnt ,even over the eyes/over the eyes gave me a hint that she misses seeing that personas well/stress phase.i’m not sure if we can consider this as a new UDIN MOMENT? Plz confirm\r\n•	Fourth trigger was when this person spoke to  her father to propose to her officially and her father refused because of his different nationality and lots of other reasons that the father explained to her and she was convinced with the reasons and decided to stop contacting this person but feeling the contrary from inside .this person was respectful, handsome not like in the first trigger /here she felt she lost her chance to be married to someone handsome as her past relationships were not as serious and were always ending by feeling ashamed and lots of guilt .\r\n•	There was a time between the first trigger and the second of about two to three year or more then the last two triggers were about two months duration between.\r\n•	After reach flare pimples usually take months or more to diasappear I think disappearance is when she decides to go on /sympathetic then ventral.\r\n•	This time( loss of contact) left her feeling  lonely and not supported as well as feeling devaluated as this relationship was supposed to end by marriage to a very respectful handsome guy that in her perspective will give her a beautiful image and will give her more value in front of her colleagues and in front of her family/here was the worse pimples flare and her facial skin was totally inflamed like in the second trigger and she thought her face was burnt .\r\n•	In all situations her contact was in a secret way because it’s against her family and cultural boundaries that’s why always she can’t share her feelings with anyone because of fear to lose her image in front of others if she does and may be fear of being attacked.\r\n\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n•	Depression \r\n•	Feeling after first trigger (I want to be left alone ,I don’t want to feel this again\r\n\r\n•	Pretending that she feels good in front of others while she’s from inside feeling sad,lonely and not supported,scarred emotionally.\r\n•	No trust with anyone to share her feelings /each time pimples appear happens to be after loss of contact with someone she loves.\r\n•	Fear of losing her image if she shares this with others because of cultural boundaries.\r\n•	Self devaluation and feeling ugly because of pimples appearance.\r\n•	Fear of having scars after disappearance of pimples that will ruin her face image.\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n•	client describes what her face means to her ,it means her image and a mirror to her .\r\n•	she had this symptom too much after loss of contact with someone she loves.\r\n•	Emotion found in this organ after a little meditation we did together to talk to the organ she found that these pimples seemed like stones and that she needs a hammer to make them into small pieces to disappear/that was the message from the organ to her which lead us later to a wisdom .\r\n•	What is most important for her that’s the base for such a conflict (plz explain this for me Kora as I didn’t get it well )does it mean why she got upset of this loss of contact?that made it a conflict for her ?if it’s like this she feels devaluated after each separation ,but each time she has a new feeling that makes it worse .\r\n\r\n•	Belief related to the conflict,I will never contact any one using the same way that’s against my cultural boundaries.\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n\r\n•	Skin,face (wiki)\r\nLoss  of contact,want to be left alone ,I don’t want to feel this \r\n\r\n•	Eyelids /inflamed with thickened layer(visual loss of touch or separation,being afraid this person will disappear which totally applies in her situation.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n•	NEW BRAIN theme about connection and identity as each time she loses contact she feels her image is threatened in front of herself and in front of others,as well as feeling devaluated \r\n•	Little Old brain theme as she doesn’t feel safe and feels she’ll be attacked by others if she expresses her feelings  \r\n\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n•	Ventral vagal response during contact .\r\n•	Sympathetic nervous response when she’s about to lose contact .\r\n•	Dorsal vagal response each time she loses contact (depressed,sleeping more,feeling exhausted all the time ,eats more)\r\n•	Organ affected is her face as the whole situation always is about her image in front of others.loss of contact each time threatens he image infront of herself and infront of others with feelings of devaluation \r\n•	All is a NEW BRAIN THEME about connection and identity \r\n•	NEW BRAIN THEME usually comes with restriction of action but here comes with excess sebaceous secretions that made me doubt that may be it’s an old brain theme may be more grease to lubricate or protect her image /protection and safety ? I ‘m not sure plz explain KORA   \r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): \r\n•	Smelling the contact perfume,hearing his voise,seeing same places they used to be in together are all VAGOKS. \r\n\r\n\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour): \r\n•	Plz explain kora ?\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):\r\n•	Couldn’t understand this as well plz explain KORA If possible.\r\n  \r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found: \r\n•	One meaning was extracted from her organ message meditation and that was to relieve her pimples she’ll be as strong as a hammer towards this kind of situations,that lead the client to believe that she’s emotionally independant and her image is always bright and beautiful without adding any value from any person. \r\n•	I know now whom to contact and whom to make a distance with ,and that will surround me always with the right people because I decided to use the right way that goes with MY morals in every contact I’m dealing with either he was a good guy or a bad guy , that also makes me feel more confident and proud of my image. \r\n•	She has a very big value and a very bright image that’s always still and not threatened because her value isn’t dependant on any person ,as persons change always ,her value is given from GOD who’s the only still fact in her life (I depended on her religious belief to introduce this wisdom to her)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n                                         \r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used: \r\n????????\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:\r\n•	We wrote the META meanings on a sticky note that’s always on her office to keep seeing it every day to keep reminding her and built a new belief system\r\n•	We made a plan to integrate these wisdoms in her life and rewards herself every time she succeeds in integrating these wisdoms in any situation. \r\n\r\na)	Body & autonomic level:\r\n \r\nb) Environmental / social level:\r\n?????\r\nc) Emotional / soul level:\r\n?????? \r\nd) Mental / spiritual level: \r\n??????\r\n18. Follow-up: \r\n•	First follow up session was after four days ,some pimples began peeling and all other pimples became much less inflamed .\r\n•	Second follow up the client said she hided some facts because also she was afraid to tell all the facts and emotions she came with two new inflamed pimples with pus ,then she felt free and more safe to reveal all other facts .\r\n•	Still didn’t follow what happened after last session as it was yesterday.\r\n19. Additional Information / remarks: \r\n Client is going through other conflicts with her sister just before the new pimples re appeared/can’t relate if they were triggering something again but in this case may be reappearance was because she was afraid again of her image in front of me after the first session because she felt she wanted to share everything but the image issue didn’t let her reveal everything from the first time.', 'cf9cb4b8727dc4a981f57fa8164fedc4', '', '', '178.87.196.228', '', NULL, 'ousaima-750-cf9cb4b872@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4c0c9f8f2c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(771, '16', 'forum', 750, 'ousaima', 1645487664, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 5: Analytics process and documentation', 'META-Health Case Study		\r\nFor MHI’s database\r\nName of Practitioner: OUSAIMA ALGHAZOU\r\nReviewed by:\r\nMedical history\r\n1. Client ID: OG2202003\r\n2. Age: 50 Years5500 Years\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Right handedRIGHT-HANDED\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state:Male MALE\r\n5. Description of symptom/s (e.g. change in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):\r\n•	Client wants to decode his SUBCLINICAL HYPERTHYROIDISM .\r\n•	Described the symptoms as follows :\r\no	Feels lazy all the time.\r\no	Oversleeping .\r\no	Later/pain in muscles\r\no	High triglycerides \r\nPS. All these symptoms before diagnosis\r\n•	Symptoms are general but diagnosis is local so plz help here we mean by general or local the symptoms ?\r\n•	Change of function of pituitary gland if we depend on his lab tests as it indicates low thyroxine levels and normal T3,T4 \r\n•	Subclinical hyperthyroidism in his case is growing as his lab tests show that .\r\nP.S HOW TO COMPARE CLIENT’S PERCEPTION WITH DIAGNOSIS?PLZ HELP HERE\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):\r\n•	Thyroxine \r\no	Begins with a dose of 37.5 WHEN FIRST WAS DIAGNOSED(client not sure which year 2012 most probably or 2013,2014 as client described)\r\no	Increases dose over years to 75 then and 100 and ends with 125mg  nowadays.\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions): \r\n•	He didn’t realise exactly when because doctor said when he was first diagnosed that he was having it for at least two years before diagnosis/ appears slowly not sure if that necessarily means prolonged stress phase?plz help in this as I couldn’t even confirm this with the client.\r\n•	First happened after a UDIN moment most probably because client wasn’t sure when his symptoms first appeared as he wasn’t diagnosed at the right time.\r\n•	2011:\r\no	Bad relation with his boss at work.\r\no	Rivals digging behind his back to take his position at work.\r\no	Denial from boss toward all his efforts at work.\r\nAll these were stress factors\r\no	His boss gave the financial reward (that he was working hard and was supposed to be given to him)to another one unjustly./this was his UDIN MOMENT as he described\r\n•	2013:\r\no	Second trigger when the company began delaying their salaries/no stable income/lack of resources that increased by time and lasted for two years./here his thyroxine dose was increased to 75.\r\no	Same time or just before was diagnosed with subclinical hyperthyroidism.\r\n•	2016:\r\no	A big financial crisis in the operating company that lead them to give the company to another operating one/not stable at work, broke with some debts as he didn’t took his missing salaries till this moment./here his thyroxine dose was increased to 100 mg\r\n•	2019:\r\no	They bargained foe his salary /lowered his salary and he didn’t have any other choice than to accept that as he has lots of commitments and borrowed lots of money from his friends to keep going ./here his thyroxine dose was increased to 125mg \r\no	He’s still on that dose till now\r\no	Increasing and prolonged phases of stress and chronic process.\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n•	Feeling not supported by his boss at work that makes rivals attack him easily and take his reward unjustly\r\n•	Not safe.\r\n•	Injustice \r\n•	Feeling of revenge at the first UDIN moment it was a moment of oppression for him .\r\n•	No stability.\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n•	After second trigger/fear of not being able to pay back his debts\r\n•	Lots of thoughts to change work since the first UDIN moment as he believes that he’ll not be safe at this work.\r\n•	Regret why he didn’t reserve money before this as he was living a relaxed life.\r\n•	Regret his previous lifestyle that he used to spend lots of money without reserving some.\r\n-believes that all this nationality(his rival’s nationality) are opportunistics as they want to reach their goals and steal other’s positions even it was in a dirty injustly way. \r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n•	pituitary gland affected /low TSH\r\n•	pituitary anterior lobe in wiki \r\no	gives minus action in regeneration phase that explains low TSH\r\no	need to nourish,survival of a kind,needs to grow at work which all applies to client condition .\r\n•	I SEE both new brain themes and old brain themes \r\n•	At the first UDIN moment/NOT SAFE ,LACK OF SUPPORT,feeling attacked,rivals want his position all are old brain theme\r\n•	Lack of resources after/old brain theme\r\n•	Regret/performance and stability /new brain theme \r\n•	Bad connection with rivals and boss/new brain theme\r\n•	Old brain/ brain stem/more action but not sure what was the more action it’s named subclinical hyper but it was with minus action /low TSH\r\n•	New brain theme/medulla/restriction as he has muscle pain and eshaustion\r\nGets exhausted easily without any effort\r\n•	Concerned organ tissues/pituitary anterior lobe\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n•	Dorsal vagal response as he was sleeping too much before beginning ,medication\r\n•	I‘m not sure if this organ got affected during stress phase or repair phase /plz help KORA\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS):\r\n•	VAGOKS FROM HIS CHILDHOOD,\r\n•	visual and auditory cortex are involved as he saw his DAD going through same conditions when client was a teenager ,then he witnessd his brother having exactly same conditions as his father and finally witnessed his married sister going through same crisis .\r\n•	Those VAGOKS affected amygdala in brain stem (confirms old brain theme) that affected hypothalamus that in turn had an impact on the pituitary function and made a hormonal change that was lowering TSH, and lowering metabolism of crabs and fats (client has high tigycerides)\r\n•	Here was a little bit confusion for me regarding the plus and minus action as it was supposed to be a plus action ?? it’s a hyperthyroidism but with symptoms of HYPO.\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (Personality, typical behavior): \r\n•	Father’s crisis(being relaxed financially with no reserve of money then lot’s of debts because of a sudden no income periods of time/no one is sure if he was diagnosed with subclinical hyperthyroidism or not as he passed away after a long journey with colon cancer.\r\n•	same exact conditions later with his brother/his brother has subclinical hyperthyroidism too\r\n•	same exact conditions later with his sister with same medical diagnosis.\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms): \r\n?????????????? I don’t understand this \r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:\r\n•	Reversal of his belief that this nationality isn’t all with the morals of his rival there are some good examples .\r\n•	Depending on a religious belief that the client totally believesin , we reached to a wisdom that if you run to win if this money wasn’t meant to be for you it’ll not come to you so relax and do your job without stress as what you’ll get your money easily without that stress.\r\n•	What happens with your father will not necessarily happen to you as with the blessings and skills you have you can reach everything you need.\r\n•	 Your position is stable as no one can take it from you because you deserve it with your sincere working as these diggers will not win forever always the right ones will win .\r\n•	The mountain will not be shaken by any wind and that’s what you are in your work and the proof is that you’re still here going to higher positions after all these winds in the previous years.\r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used:\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:\r\nWrote the wisdoms on a place that he will always see and repeat and integrates them in his day as he still have challenges at work and we’ll check after a while his lab tests\r\na) Body & autonomic level: ???\r\nb) Environmental / social level: ???\r\nc) Emotional / soul level: ???\r\nd) Mental / spiritual level: ???\r\n18. Follow-up: \r\n19. Additional Information / remarks:', '28afaa8bb3035daa4b9a6cd346f47960', '', '', '178.87.196.228', '', '', 'ousaima-750-d18eef0660@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4c0c9f8f2c@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(774, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1645613447, 153, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'The compass gives you typical qualities of physical symptoms for the different brain layers in both phases and the healing peak. With this help, we can try to place some diagnoses we don\'t understand yet.\r\n*Do you know the affected organ or organ system? Then start with the tissue lists to see which brain parts it can be related to.Then check the typical characteristics in both phases for the brain layers you suspect to be involved. Where does the symptom fit in?\r\n*Don\'t you know the organ? Then start with the columns of the compass that describe the type of symptom. Compare the nuances in different brain- and tissue layers.\r\n*In the wiki, you can work your way from the overview pages of different organ systems and organs towards the detailed tissue pages and learn more about their specific associations.\r\n\r\nIn this thread we can discuss the material and other resources to use for understanding diseases and diagnoses!', '9bd7d2063df897ffae1be9363c9f6f33', '', '', '109.240.77.56', '', '', 'Kora-0-1ff97236c8@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(775, '16', 'forum', 0, 'sanskriti', 1645878152, 29, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Tried my first case study :)', 'Medical history\r\n1. Client ID: ASHS1132\r\n\r\n2. Age: 38\r\n\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Right\r\n\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: M\r\n\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):  Piles (Haemorroids) , Stage III, one on both sides of anal region so total two haemorrhoids, Inflammed, Big in size. it reached stage 3. Problem started due to prolonged sitting job in 3-4 hrs and wrong sitting posture\r\n\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any): It first appeared to him in 2018 and he ignored it due to stressful work. Earlier it was 5-10 min pain, all these years in between he ignored it and been a workaholic building his company. He got extreme pain in dec 2021 and couldn’t bear it anymore and went through surgery in Feb 2022\r\n\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions): He is an Entrepreneur, his lifestyle is stressful , and left job in nov, 2018, to build his company. it was hard time for him in 2018, and unable to decide for marriage in 2018 during same time. He felt like hypochondria , extreme fear of body parts failing down. His mother passed away in 2009 after which he was very fearful. His lifestyle of last few yrs have been very careless, irregular food habits, lot of stress , constant sitting due to work and no movement. He took no accountability of anything, he is very stubborn.\r\nOrigin started in 2009, when mother died, then he created world of fantasy like he would become like  Steve jobs and then people would love him.  He was seeking attention of boss\r\nAlso, He was separated from his mother when he was just few moths old and lived with (brother of mother and  his family and also for sometime with grand mother) for around 2 years during when self-doubt was created.\r\nFrom 2015 onwards, He felt Exploited, Humiliated and Seek his bosses crazily. He was jealous of them and went into self-defect, self-doubt, played all kinds of games to impress them. . I asked him “Is the conflict with outer people or inner dilemma? Both , mostly internal dilemma . Intra-psyche conflict. Part of the self is in conflict with the self only.\r\nHe identified himself as a Defective child . Always in Self-doubt.. seeking assurance from others. He was disappointed with bosses and investors as he considered them as mother and felt helpless \r\nHe was very confident when he was young but since his bosses tantalized (he only accepted this word) him and then they use to give opportunity to other IITians(Ivy League student passouts) and not him, he felt disappointed. He was stuck with investors like proving something to the mother, to impress her. Helplessness\r\n \r\n\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions: He felt injustice, thwarted, Unfairness, Badness of others, Selfishness of others, Crookedness of others, Corruptness of others, Helplessness, Envy , Rage with his bosses and investors. He never listened to others , didn’t even took meds, didn’t listened to doctors. \r\n\r\n\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values: . Belief : Self-doubt of ‘Whether I will be able to speak or not. Inadequacy feeling’. He only felt loved around his mother to some extent and not anybody else. He said some parental authority is in his mind who has created such self-doubt. brother of his mother might have done something which he doesn’t remember in creating this kind of belief. He said His Inner child wants to be assured that he can speak but instead he received hate of parent . It castrated him . He thought parent is unhappy from him. another belief he said was - He is not accepted as he is. parents, uncle, GrandMa were not dealing with his problems and he was left alone\r\n\r\nInterpretation . \r\n\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s: To me it looks like , Brain-Stem — Old brain Theme - Survival (Inner Germ Layer- Endoderm).   Because  he put himself in a network of big people in the entrepreneur industry. He was always trying to survive in every situation. He always had to prove them that he can also be like them (his bosses and Ivy League colleague) due to which he developed Indigestible-anger, and not being able to eliminate something . It also looks like (Rectum(sub-mucosa)) in Brain Stem where he felt starved with people around him as he was unable to get fulfilled with them as he used to be with his mother, (Theme -Starvation) . Also Territorial anger / Identity  issues - because of his belief that “Whether I will be able to speak or not” it brings New brain theme of Communication, Contact, Rank in the picture. Rectummucosa, Anus (ectodermal part) - Outer Germ Layer of Communication Hierarchy\r\n\r\nHere are Tissue reactions :\r\nStress phase : + \r\nBecause issue was not timely resolved, due to prolonged stress , it grown into 2 big haemorrhoids, with blood showing up in Grade 3 phase in year 2021\r\nRegeneration trigger; He underwent surgery in Feb 2022\r\nReneration phase: Too much pain after surgery, it shows healing peak\r\nRegeneration phase B: new skins developing, little itching after surgery\r\n\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):  Prolonged stress phase leading to Grade III for Haemorroids (Piles) on both sides\r\n\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): None\r\n\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour): couldn’t identify\r\n\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):  \r\n\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:   He refused to change his mindset as all these struggles he has gone through has given meaning to him. He is able to build his own company by using these pressures. I asked him if he wanted to accept what happened and let go of the situation and make himself free and work on his beliefs. But he said he wanted to work his own way out and calm himself by forgiveness and gratitude which he is still developing.. I agreed with the approach he wanted to go for. Next day he developed cold and sneezing a lot\r\n                                         \r\nDear Kora, Please review and share what else I could have done\r\nThanks', '12a0212de4e39cdaececc4f940522a9e', '', '', '49.36.189.88', '', NULL, 'sanskriti-0-12a0212de4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(776, '16', 'forum', 775, 'Kora', 1645905307, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Tried my first case study :)', 'Hi Sanskriti,\r\nthank you for sharing this interesting case!\r\nI have a question regarding the timeline of the process:\r\nIf the piles appeared in 2018, was this before he left his old job and started his own in november?\r\nIt seems to me that their appearance may be connected to his decision to leave and that this was a resolution to his territorial anger and identity conflict with his boss (the ((Digestive - Anal Mucosa (squamous epithelium)|rectum mucosa)) reacted with swelling and pain, you find these in the \"cortex/ectoderm\" sheet). But his self-doubts that he has carried for so long didn\'t resolve yet - while he is pushing himself, there is some weakening still going on in his tissues.\r\nAfter this decision, he became entrepreneur and also alone responsible for his success, which of course was a new stress phase, this time rather \"old brain\" style. The big swelling could be interpreted as ((Digestive - Rectum - Mucosa (Endodermal layer)|submucosa)) in the anal region (chunk about holding on/ not letting go), or as the ((Urinary - Kidneys - Collecting Tubules|kidney tubules)) enlarging the oedema (abandonment/existence conflict). \r\n\r\nIf he found a meaning in his struggles, he doesn\'t need to change his mindset regarding these. \r\nHowever, what I see is that he is pushing himself too hard, which impacts his lifestyle so that he doesn\'t value his own health. If he could find a way to not hold on that hard, and to take some time for motion between turns of sitting, this might help both his body and his brain to process his chunks easier! Movement and rhythm stimulate the brain hemispheres to more playfulness and creativity, they also help self-confidence and thereby, his success!\r\nDo you think this might resonate with him?', 'a7108661879a70ce51fcc065e96e4a3f', '', '', '109.240.87.237', '', NULL, 'Kora-775-a710866187@www.meta-health.net', 'sanskriti-0-12a0212de4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(777, '16', 'forum', 774, 'Kora', 1645907052, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hello, is somebody of you on facebook? \r\nIn the group \"[https://www.facebook.com/groups/metahealth|META-Health Community]\" there is a new post: \"Hello META-Healthy ppl... Can someone please help me out with foot pain majorly towards the heel bone area! TIA \" \r\n What questions would you ask her to find out more?', '3e6fd0512c8c58e0e6c7b18c16ce61fd', '', '', '109.240.87.237', '', NULL, 'Kora-774-3e6fd0512c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-1ff97236c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(778, '16', 'forum', 774, 'ousaima', 1645952452, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Yea I use Facebook shall we ask there or to use the questions here?', '7dd93b29fe1dd81de49814e190446aa5', '', '', '149.109.127.246', '', NULL, 'ousaima-774-7dd93b29fe@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-774-3e6fd0512c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(779, '16', 'forum', 774, 'Kora', 1645964872, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Whatever you choose, with what you have learned until now :-)\r\nEverybody feel free to join the META-Health discussion groups on [https://www.facebook.com/groups/metahealth/|Facebook] and on [https://t.me/+u_RXKilpGK82OWEy|Telegram] if you like!', 'b809cc177f04c0eea19d257e24f54151', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-774-b809cc177f@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-774-7dd93b29fe@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(780, '16', 'forum', 774, 'sanskriti', 1646035514, 9, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nHow long will we have access to recordings?\r\nI am asking so that I have enough time to go through them one more time\r\n\r\nThanks', 'e7455086b79843946d4fa0fdfb6d3851', '', '', '13.235.34.169', '', NULL, 'sanskriti-774-e7455086b7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-1ff97236c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(781, '16', 'forum', 780, 'Kora', 1646040259, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hey Sanskriti,\r\nwe are keeping the recordings and they will stay accessible to you at least for 2022. Usually we archive all material.', '3fc9bebfa2199a3c83703a08a6e55a58', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-780-3fc9bebfa2@www.meta-health.net', 'sanskriti-774-e7455086b7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(782, '16', 'forum', 780, 'sanskriti', 1646050225, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Great, Thank you Kora! (:smile:)', 'ef0b9732e6a91f8838caa8f9460f21fa', '', '', '13.235.34.169', '', NULL, 'sanskriti-780-ef0b9732e6@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-780-3fc9bebfa2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(783, '16', 'forum', 774, 'Kora', 1646056327, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nlots of valuable questions you gave her on FB. I hope she\'s not overwhelmed ;-) but perhaps she might want to swap sessions with you?', '5a2ee7dffc69298601b30edc5b52bd27', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-774-5a2ee7dffc@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-774-7dd93b29fe@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(784, '16', 'forum', 774, 'ousaima', 1646075430, 17, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Ooooooh  I knew it’s too much :) but because she said she’s a practitioner I thought this will make it easier to her :)\r\n\r\nObviously I cannot do this by a comment or two as we learned in the course that at least we want to see the client face to face or online and surely we will not ask all this in the first session :)  but since it’s a case study I maybe over questioned her , plz guide me is the analysis right as i think her case was a devaluation conflict as I mentioned and it’s a continuous one / chronic / New brain theme \r\n\r\nAccording to compass the organ is a locomotor in her case it was in medulla , her conflict can be in medulla as there was decreased trophic or weakness ( functional change , stress phase )\r\nSensitivity ( possibly pain after degradation / stress phase ) , swelling in stress phase in recurring cycle / that indicates she’s in an ongoing process of stress / ongoing devaluation!', '58d88a7dbfbd40fab080d4d28a6c0b4f', '', '', '149.109.127.246', '', NULL, 'ousaima-774-58d88a7dbf@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-774-5a2ee7dffc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(785, '16', 'forum', 775, 'sanskriti', 1646077681, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Tried my first case study :)', 'Hi Kora!\r\n\r\nThanks a lot! I am able to understand and connect the dots more clearly\r\n\r\nYou are correct. He observed the first appearance of haemorrhoids after he decided to leave his job, which shows resolution to his territorial anger and identity conflict in earlier phase (rectum mucosa) and submucosa in the anal region (later phase)\r\nI can also see the constellation active in him as  ‘Paparrazzi Constellation’  in rectum mucosa where he is an aggressive talker (the other person feels unheard with him) and he also writes a lot \r\n\r\nHe also confirmed about Isolation conflict in kidney tubules which still continues currently as he has no sharing or joint contribution with anyone. Mostly he works alone and handles his team which makes him feel this way\r\n\r\nYes, he is changing his lifestyle, and getting an understanding that he needs to set boundaries with his work and not take so much stress and socialise more with people, which will help him get easy and relax . He also admitted that he is processing his chunks  but mostly his own ways and not taking suggestions from any practitioners (:smile:)\r\n\r\nThanks', 'd261eb72b77ac4443548730d66279e2c', '', '', '49.36.189.88', '', NULL, 'sanskriti-775-d261eb72b7@www.meta-health.net', 'sanskriti-0-12a0212de4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(786, '16', 'forum', 774, 'Pr majda', 1646079072, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hello Kora,\r\nI wonder about the resources that we will need permanently to be able to analyze the cases. Obviously it will be difficult to remember or learn the locations and their meanings and symptoms. I found the bookin translated into French but it is not complete. I try to translate technical words when necessary to properly assimilate the meaning. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem? otherwise I joined FB and Telegram metahealth group a while ago.\r\n\r\nThank you,', '00a91576199b2aaccd2e420ad0677914', '', '', '160.177.86.119', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-774-00a9157619@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-1ff97236c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(787, '16', 'forum', 784, 'Kora', 1646080572, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Yes, you are correct with the C. medulla and self-devaluation, which she confirmed. She has a strong warm pain and swellings so we can assume it\'s basically a regeneration phase, but the pain and rigidity are also stressors that prevent her healing out smoothly. \r\nThis is often the case in the locomotor system.\r\nI\'m thinking of a [https://www.physiotherapy-treatment.com/calcaneal-spur.html|heel spur] and would ask her if this description fits.\r\nIn her case, you\'d want to find out about the meaning of the heel to her, and what triggered its abrupt appearance. All other symptoms were triggered by the pain in the heel, and not being able to stand and walk.\r\nSo, you get an idea what resources she needs.', 'fcc3d8198622e1dff33f6a7ecc05db1d', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-784-fcc3d81986@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-774-58d88a7dbf@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(788, '16', 'forum', 786, 'Kora', 1646081626, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hello Majda,\r\nyou don\'t need to learn all locations and meanings, they are only examples for what we often find to fit. \r\nWhen you understand the biological functions of the different organs and tissues, and learn the typical qualities to differentiate between \"old brain\" and \"new brain\", you have the working base that leads you to find the appropriate help for the person.\r\nI suggest that you browse the book for inspiration and illustration of the compass. The colours indicate the brain/germ layer that the symptom refers to.\r\nWhen you find something difficult to understand, please feel free to ask for another explanation!', '769387493c83e804b18e498bf6611907', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-786-769387493c@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-774-00a9157619@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(789, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Pr majda', 1646084371, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case study ', '__Hi dear Kora, \r\nHi dear all,\r\n\r\nPlease find attached my first case study. \r\n\r\nI look forward to your comments.\r\n\r\nBests, \r\n__\r\n1. Client ID: 1\r\n2. Age: 48 years\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Left. \r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Men\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):  lighter areas on the face (forehead and cheeks), ears and recently (since one year) on the backs of the hands (located at 3 round dots on the backs of the fingers of the left hand). Vitiligo? The symptomatology dates back to 2007. At the start, there were darker areas (brown spots on the cheeks). The client had consulted dermatologists who prescribed lightening spot ointments. The evolution was marked by the appearance of small lighter spots on the forehead. The initially circumscribed spots have become more confluent. The evolution is marked by the succession of red skin, repigmentation, and depigmentation. The client never lost memory or skin sensitivity.\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):  Protopic 0,1% (Tacrolimus monohydrate)\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\nThe client lived with his grandparents, aunts and uncles. He was separated from his family (mother and father and sisters) at the age of 7. He continued to see them but occasionally (separation very early). He was raised by his authoritative maternal grandfather. As an adult and after successful higher education, he was recruited into a company. His first year of work was marked by a UDIN following accusations of theft in his work (embezzlement of money by an employee). It was a very difficult period to overcome.\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions: anger, loss of trust, lack of protection and love.\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values: He thinks he deserves more. That he was badly treated.\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s: cerebral cortex (Ectoderm related to communication/ hierarchy) specifically the integumentary system. The biological them is “contact”. The associated them is “separation”. in the WIKI: Depigmentation (Vitiligo) can occur if the basal layer is affected by separation experienced as brutal and unfair.\r\n\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states): Functional change, but I cannot distinguish if the reduction in melanin secretion is a stress phase or not (first biologically meaningful temporary change of function, later decrease first further decrease due to swelling/ oedema, then restoration, possibly in excess). What about the brown spots described at the beginning? \r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): Stress is triggered by auditory and visual memories.\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour): The tendency not to confront problems and avoid discussing them. reduced self-esteem and confidence in self-image. Avoidance of sun exposure. Weight gain.\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms): I did not fully understand this point to explore it\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found: “I am confident, source of love and surrounded by love”                           \r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used: physical activity, meditation, poisitive affirmation, sun exposure?', '5a082f445b491be7176bbbf65b1b97d9', '', '', '160.177.86.119', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-0-5a082f445b@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(790, '16', 'forum', 784, 'ousaima', 1646085884, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Thanks Kora but here I thought since she said the swelling isn’t permanent it sometimes come and go that she’s in a recurring process as swelling appears in regeneration and I assumed that when swelling is no longer there she’s in the stress phase again ! \r\n\r\nI think I asked her if she can remember what happened before her pain appeared,and I also asked her about her heel function but unfortunately this comment thing doesn’t make it easy to explain for the patient what you exactly mean by your question as she answered something else:) \r\n When she talked about that she feels trapped did this give a hint that she feels trapped in a situation because of something? I was waiting for her answer but I believe this word can lead us to the first UDIN moment ?? Is that right ? What if the patient didn’t remember any UDIN moment ? \r\n\r\n\r\nI was thinking also that may be it happened before in her family as may be the conflict is a repetitive one from family ancestors and she has VAGOKS from childhood ?!!', 'f4800d8b717c2c1863160f4fdea0b3cd', '', '', '149.109.127.246', '', NULL, 'ousaima-784-f4800d8b71@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-784-fcc3d81986@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(791, '16', 'forum', 784, 'ousaima', 1646086343, 14, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', '.', '0a5565e7c2977412dbf445fd05b85410', '', '', '149.109.127.246', '', '', 'ousaima-784-77e18361a6@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-784-fcc3d81986@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(792, '16', 'forum', 791, 'Kora', 1646088466, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'The information about the heel spur can confirm the tissue we are looking at ( ((Musculoskeletal - Bones|bone)), with reinforced tissue), and it gives us some hints to helpful measures besides working on her self-esteem.', '0844f07e24a00bd05eccd28df2274f03', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-791-0844f07e24@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-784-77e18361a6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(793, '16', 'forum', 790, 'Kora', 1646089103, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'I think the trapped feeling comes through not being able to move because of the pain, so this might not be the UDIN leading to the heel process, but it is definitely something that doesn\'t let her regenerate! Therefore, in her case one can start working with these emotions and beliefs, and see where they lead to.', 'e90431d991f2f6e317f3665377ba017d', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-790-e90431d991@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-784-f4800d8b71@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(794, '16', 'forum', 789, 'Kora', 1646090846, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case study ', 'Thank you for this interesting case, Majda!\r\n\r\nRegarding the UDIN and the primary reaction of \"pigment plus\", I am thinking of a defilement conflict of his face (and later hands) because of the accusation. Even when the pigment layer belongs to the ((Integumentary - Skin - Epidermis|epidermis)), it often reacts to give more ((Integumentary - Skin - Dermis (Leather Skin)|protection)). If this is the case, the following loss of pigment might be a symptom of repair, or a result of the ointment. I assume that both contact (new brain) and protection (old brain) themes are involved here. \r\nThe development shows that he couldn\'t yet fully heal the conflict, but that it sensitized him for possible attacks. His tendency to avoid confrontation and to have a negative self-image seems to confirm that. Weight gain can have to do with this, there are several mechanisms that could be at play here.\r\n\r\nHis integrity seems to be a big value, perhaps prohibiting him to \"make friends\" and feel safe in the sun, or with others?\r\nI like your META-meaning!', '48b0cc62c8bcd0c6dc6b976e9b35cf1b', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-789-48b0cc62c8@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-0-5a082f445b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(795, '16', 'forum', 791, 'ousaima', 1646124879, 15, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hi Kora , I deleted my reply here because I discovered from the article that the heel spur begins with a muscle fascia issue ? That means that the whole theme will be different here as the muscle fascia  refers to the cerebellum ,so her problem begins with a self devaluation new brain theme but escalades with an old brain them regarding protection may be and not feeling safe ? \r\n\r\nMuscle fascia is about moving easily so her problem escalades when she felt trapped and not being able to move easily \r\nAs you said here that proves that her emotions are definitely what prevents her from regeneration \r\n\r\nSo here shall we reconsider  muscle fasciitis as it may be the cause of heel pain from the beginning ? And if so then the whole theme will refer to the old brain theme even if she confirmed devaluation new brain theme but may be the new brain theme in her case was secondary to the old brain theme as also her symptoms at the symptoms compass can get typical with regeneration phase in cerebellum as change in function / decrease , light swelling that gets stronger if KCT are activated  \r\n\r\n\r\nPlz clarify if I began mixing things together because still when it comes the symptoms compass I’m a little bit lost as symptoms sometimes seem to be juming with me in the categories:)', 'bfd159ced4a22db6aae035e92f8690f1', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-791-bfd159ced4@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-791-0844f07e24@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(796, '16', 'forum', 795, 'Kora', 1646133203, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthe information in the article would need to be considered and confirmed by her. This gives a model to explain how self-devaluation has originally happened, and what a UDIN or fundamental sensation may have been about. I find self-devaluation to often be a secondary theme, because one didn\'t succeed in something of high importance. But this is something to explore with the client.\r\nWe always go with the information we have accessible and check this with the individual person. \r\nSo of course we don\'t need to know all about fascia or what else might be involved when we do META-Health, it\'s most important to be curious about the client\'s pattern of experience, the root causes and their individual triggers.\r\nWhat we see in her case is that the swelling and pain create an inhibitory response (dorsal vagal) and feeling trapped, this produces further helplessness and self-devaluation. We would like her to find more ease to expand and to move in safe circumstances to break the vicious cycle, wouldn\'t we? This would even relate to her fascia and muscles...\r\nTissues aren\'t completely apart, they work together and influence each other. Having said that, this is already quite advanced META-Health! :-)', '0afab9bc18388b180a417c437e1da78d', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-795-0afab9bc18@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-791-bfd159ced4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(797, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 6', 'wiki page', 0, 'Pr majda', 1646134926, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Nice \"Meta-healthy\" reminder of anatomy and physiology', 'Thank you so much Kora, Very interesting!', '3a55e29009a5af1f7733e62a06b61dde', '', '', '197.253.222.180', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-0-3a55e29009@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'n', 'n'),
(798, '16', 'forum', 795, 'ousaima', 1646146292, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 6: use the compass and the wiki to help decode symptoms and diagnoses!', 'That’s great explanation , thanks a lot Kora .', '81f082aaad679666f74bf9342cc3a127', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-795-81f082aaad@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-795-0afab9bc18@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(799, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1646255431, 240, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task Lesson No 7', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nWould you please help me to get clear on what exactly we need to look up? You wrote in the task \"If you consider symptom characteristics\" Where do you want us to get these symptom characteristics from? From the case studies? Like which organ tissues are connected to bloating and suffocation?\r\n\r\nThank you!', 'dfad8d7c367f8ec867d4eeb11e1415f2', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', '', 'Eve Kosko-0-804bd51887@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(800, '16', 'forum', 799, 'Kora', 1646265667, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'You see the symptom characteristics in the compass we exercised with, and try to apply these to symptoms or diagnoses that concern the liver, the nose and the lungs. How would you know which tissue/brain layer is affected? Then you can look the organs up in the wiki and find details about possible diagnoses.\r\n\r\nThe two case studies are examples for issues that concern brain stem related themes, you can actually read there which tissues are affected.', '27fffe9ad50137e5da701f877284e452', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-799-27fffe9ad5@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-804bd51887@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(801, '16', 'forum', 799, 'ousaima', 1646480566, 26, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Hi Kora , it seems confusing to me too , do you mean to check first what symptoms could the liver show if the problem was (let’s say ) an old brain theme , then we’ll  check first how the stress phase looks like according to the symptoms compass:\r\n\r\nExample :\r\nLiver Parenchyma/BS\r\n\r\nIf there was a functional change / it’ll be enhancement ( here we’ll ask ourselves how an enhancement of function will look like ? \r\n\r\nWe go on on all symptoms and then \r\nWe check if we can find the liver in other brain layers and so on ? \r\n\r\nIs it this what’s needed in the task ? Plz help Kora :)', '1349fafc36ab837aa057e2a4753c8d3a', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', '', 'ousaima-799-ff19a8a32b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-799-27fffe9ad5@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(802, '16', 'forum', 801, 'Kora', 1646503937, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Hey Ousaima,\r\nthat\'s exactly what I thought of. We need to see how the \"plus/minus theory\" plays out in practice, and we have descriptions in the wiki how it does for each tissue. So you\'ve got the overview of typical reactions in the compass, and you\'ve got the organ graphics and the detailed descriptions in the wiki and in the book. There are different kinds of symptoms and diagnoses for the tissues in each of the named organs, and we want to get to know how they work, before we get into the interactions and overlaps we meet in practice.\r\n\r\nExample to fill in: \r\nWhen we look at the lungs, we see in the graphic (and in the tissue lists) that there are both brain stem- and cortex-related parts present. In the endodermal part (the parenchyma), we expect the stress reaction to be a \"plus\" which means that the function change may be ... and the tissue change may be... In the repair phase, this will be reversed, meaning that...\r\nWhereas in the ectodermal parts, especially the bronchial mucosa, the stress reaction would be a \"minus\", which can play out as... etc\r\n\r\nIf you find it difficult to do, please tell me where you get stuck so I know what to address!', 'd104e67f23ef07a7172372941c7ec578', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-801-d104e67f23@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-799-ff19a8a32b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(803, '16', 'forum', 801, 'ousaima', 1646504363, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI tried this but plz let me know if it’s what needed in this task ? \r\n\r\nLet’s begin with the same example I gave:\r\n\r\nLiver parenchyma / BS (+,-) / starvation _existence \r\n\r\nIt’s in general an old brain theme / survival \r\nBiological theme/ digestion and breaking down \r\n\r\nStress phase (+) :\r\nFunctional change according to compass is enhancement ( may be high liver enzymes) , after long stress time reduction in function that can be noticed as reduction in liver enzymes)\r\nlater in stress phase can be slow hyperplasia ( slow formation of tumor that can be noticed in regeneration phase A)\r\n\r\nRegeneration phase A(-) :\r\nStrong under function( decrease in liver enzymes until normalization reached in regeneration phase B ) , or we can detect swelling ( enlarged liver, fatty liver , liver cirrhosis/ increased scars , purulent , degradation of tissue can be noticed as inflammation and enlarged liver size , tumor can be noticed if not degraded ( adenoma ) , in high peak can be liver cancer \r\n\r\nHigh temperature if there was an inflammation in regeneration phase according to compass \r\n\r\nHP :\r\nStrong overfunction, shiver , cold sensation \r\n\r\nRegeneration phase B :\r\nUnder function/ normalized enzymes and function \r\n\r\nI read your reply after I wrote this :) \r\nI did that before I check in wiki \r\nBut now I realized that wiki will make it easier to check \r\n\r\nThanks Kora:)', 'c194b45b8ad33718671c76e2438914a5', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-801-c194b45b8a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-801-d104e67f23@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(804, '16', 'forum', 801, 'ousaima', 1646504681, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Yea I found it a little bit challenging before I read your comment as I didn’t remember to check wiki , I was trying to check tissue changes and functional changes from my memory as well as from google that’s why I found it challenging, but now as you said to check wiki it’s all mentioned there and it’s much easier', '74a31abf21e341bfddc22077c67a95c5', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-801-74a31abf21@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-801-d104e67f23@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(805, '16', 'forum', 801, 'ousaima', 1646505392, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'After checking wiki : \r\n\r\nLiver parenchyma \r\nStress Phase Symptoms:\r\nIncreased liver function of the required quality, like production of enzymes, bile, proteins or enhanced energy storage with elevated levels of liver enzymes, especially alkaline phosphatase (AP) and alpha fetoprotein (AFP). Elevated cell proliferation of the liver tissue which may have secretory or reabsorptive qualities. Typical are round foci either as singular solitary foci, associated with starvation conflict about another person or a pet, or several multiple round focuses, in this case associated with starvation conflict for oneself. Tumors appear as dark formations on an abdominal CT.\r\n\r\nThe most common symptoms are sudden weight loss, upper abdominal pain, pressing pain above the liver and changes in liver function. These tumors are easily palpable, as they are mostly spherical nodules next to the liver capsule. Possible diagnoses are liver tumor, liver carcinoma, liver cell carcinoma, focal nodular hyperplasia or hepatocellular carcinoma.\r\n\r\nRegeneration Phase Symptoms:\r\nRegeneration can take different paths:\r\n\r\nInflammation and decomposition of tumor:\r\nPhase A: Fungi or mycobacteria are present. The liver swells up and night sweats occur. Often diagnosed as hepatitis, tuberculosis or  liver abscess. Even here, elevated levels of enzymes (transaminase) are detected in the blood.\r\n\r\nPhase B: After the healing peak the swelling recedes. After the degradation of cell growths, liver caverns appear. In the case of a water retention syndrome, the caverns can be filled with water in the regeneration phase which might be diagnosed as a pseudocysts (defined by a lack of epithelial/endothelial lining). Pseudocysts can quickly change their size based on the edema collected inside.\r\n\r\nDecomposition, autolysis without bacteria:\r\nPhase A: In contrast to inflammatory degradation of the tumor, the self-dissolution occurs without bacteria and without inflammation.\r\n\r\nPhase B: Liver caverns can also be possible during this type of regeneration process.\r\n\r\nEncapsulation of the tumor:\r\nEspecially Phase B: The tumor encapsulates and possibly become calcified or even transformed to connective tissue, fibroid, which is often diagnosed as a benign liver tumor with little or no cell division.\r\n\r\nEven after the regeneration process has completed, we may find liver cirrhosis or caverns in the liver parenchyma.\r\n\r\nHealing Peak:\r\nhypoglykemia, drop in gamma GT and unconsciousness/absence during several hours possible.', '97c9ef727522a184421e1845c5c711c9', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-801-97c9ef7275@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-801-d104e67f23@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(806, '16', 'forum', 801, 'Kora', 1646513508, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Now, how would we differentiate a liver issue related to brain stem from a liver issue related to the cortex?\r\nThe meaning of the task is to compare different organ processes with each other. :-)', '790dd8509c925d77dce2aacafc3b8b38', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-801-790dd8509c@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-801-97c9ef7275@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(807, '16', 'forum', 801, 'ousaima', 1646518509, 16, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Yea I realized that but it took too much time with me , as when I finished liver parenchyma , I moved to gall bladder and its ducts , and there I got stuck :(\r\nAs in the gall bladder itself you can find , Mid brain layer as well as CC layer theme , here I got totally confused as there are also female and male hemisphere that I didn’t understand , but then moving to symptoms in stress phase I found it mentioning things that go typical with a plus action considering I guess midbrain rather than cerebral. Cortex stress phase characteristics ? As well as regeneration ! So plz explain if possible :) \r\nI also would ask you if we can divide this task as it’s becoming a very big chunk:) \r\n\r\nCan we just focus on the liver and finish it then may be in another task we can do the nose and other things , I don’t know if this is possible and suits all other participants:)', '85c4f71d30bd8b1e2a71a0e035b8544e', '', '', '142.247.94.217', '', NULL, 'ousaima-801-85c4f71d30@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-801-790dd8509c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(808, '16', 'forum', 801, 'Lucia Franziska', 1646522467, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'I would agree with Ousaima', 'e567228905eb751255890b471d08f1bf', '', '', '79.69.7.30', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-801-e567228905@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-801-85c4f71d30@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(809, '16', 'forum', 807, 'Kora', 1646593827, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'OK, I wanted you to first look on the graphic in yellow and red: for brain stem and cortex. {img fileId=\"196\" thumb=\"box\"} Then to check out these tissues ( ((Digestive - Liver - Parenchyma|liver parenchyma)) and ((Digestive - Gallbladder and Bile Ducts|bile ducts)) ) regarding typical symptoms in stress and regeneration phase, and to compare these. That\'s it!\r\n\r\nYou don\'t need to understand everything mentioned in the \"cortex\" chapters yet, as we didn\'t talk about these in detail. This is just to compare the symptom information with the compass!\r\n\r\nRegarding the smooth muscle layer, this is working together with the other tissues to perform their biological functions. In the ducts, these are there to release or to restrict bile. In a stress phase, the muscles first slacken to widen the ducts and later, an ulceration of the vessel wall can occur. These are \"minus\"-reactions to serve a biological demand for more bile.', 'fe0bb44eb245e08e1a58adcebb17021e', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-807-fe0bb44eb2@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-801-85c4f71d30@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(810, '16', 'forum', 807, 'ousaima', 1646598509, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Ahaaaaaaa got it :) \r\nThanks a lot Kora , that’s much easier than what I wax thinking :)', '79a767088b87095d0fad5a38b31b2e26', '', '', '178.87.196.107', '', NULL, 'ousaima-807-79a767088b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-807-fe0bb44eb2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(811, '16', 'forum', 799, 'Kora', 1646691387, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'I copy from the minichat, because that seems to delete parts of what I\'m writing:\r\n~~#F00:\'Lucia Franziska \'Question please: to understand the brain layers more. Would it be correct to say that conflicts are related to specific parts of a brain(layers) depending on what conflict it is. For example if there is a loss in the family then that loss would be\r\nhappens when we experience cinflict. Its\' processed\' in particular parts or whats the word(s)?\r\nI know its connected but how are conflicts connected to certain brain layers? Or why?\'\'~~\r\n\r\nHello Lucia, Yes conflicts are related to brain layers, but this may refer to nuances. A loss conflict can be about survival of the family (rather brain stem) or about the personal attachment to the lost person (rather new brain)\r\nConflicts relate to the brain layer that reflects the specific biological need that is breached: \r\n*a basic survival need is relayed in the brain stem and reacted upon by the organs you see in the tissue list \"Brain stem - Endoderm\". \r\n*The need for shelter and protection is relayed in the cerebellum and played out in certain skins and structures derived from the mesoderm.\r\n*The need for contact, belonging and self-expression is relayed in the cortex and it\'s expressed in the organs derived from the ectoderm.\r\nDoes that make sense to you?', '43beb9f385378ecc5063ceef04f3f56f', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', '', 'Kora-799-e46af2c1f5@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-804bd51887@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(812, '16', 'forum', 0, 'rlbbecker', 1646702732, 25, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Help with a Case Study: Hypothyroidism', 'Hi Kora, \r\nAs I said in my email, I\'m a bit overwhelmed trying to de-code this. I do believe it is Brain Stem but please correct me if I am wrong. The case is as follows:\r\nMy daughter in law had a fainting incident 2 weeks ago (right before I arrived to Alaska to help with the baby). She is almost 5 months postpartum. Because of the fainting incident, her doctor did a blood test and gave her the diagnosis of hypothyroidism. After the diagnosis she did feel more of the \"symptoms\" but thinks that was mental. She has had symptoms in the past which started in 2013. It definitely feels like the digestive side and she is right-handed. The emotion attached to this diagnosis is shame. (Her father has been diagnosed with Hashimoto\'s) Things were bad her sophomore year of college. She had her birth control implant removed so a sudden hormone change. Her diet was poor. She is a swimmer and wasn\'t meshing with other teammates, felt slow at swimming, declared her math major. \r\n\r\nThe self talk around this is: \"how did I let this happen?\", \"Maybe it\'s just a post-partum thing. Maybe it will just go away.\" \r\n\"I should have some control over it. I think it\'s caused by sinking into my own families patterns.\"\r\n\r\nShe feels impatient, like she\'s waiting for something but not sure what it is...like \"I\'m tolerating life because I\'m waiting for that something..\"\r\nHas a \"fear\" around it because she felt it was a \"flippant diagnosis with just literally a blood test and nothing more.\" In looking further at her blood markers sees they are close to going over the \"normal\" range for the liver. \r\n\r\nThank you for helping me with this!!! \r\n\r\nRebecca', 'a54fd4b7dac28faf61368ae9c9c77ac7', '', '', '71.87.153.233', '', NULL, 'rlbbecker-0-a54fd4b7da@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(813, '16', 'forum', 812, 'Kora', 1646734852, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Help with a Case Study: Hypothyroidism', 'Hi Rebecca,\r\nthank you for sharing!\r\nSo what we know is she had a fainting incident 4-5 months after giving birth. She went to the doctor who found her thyroid hormones irregular and on the low side.\r\nSo the fainting is an immobilizing \"minus\"-reaction, very short-termed. There are 2 certain points in our phases model which could relate to this - the UDIN (initial stress reaction) or the healing peak..\r\nHow would we find out which one this was for her? Any Ideas?\r\n\r\nThen I\'d like to know what the specific symptoms are that she felt more of, and that started in 2013? So I\'d ecpect something significant.to have happened at that time, that primed her.\r\n\r\nThen we have another thing that was triggered by the diagnosis, so it is not equal to the reason for the diagnosis: That\'s her feeling of shame, blaming herself for \"family patterns\". This is a self-devaluation.\r\n\r\nShe is in a state of \"waiting for something to happen\" and that\'s enabling her to tolerate life at the moment. It seems to me that she has basically an active and energetic personality which was set on pause during her pregnancy, now she likes it to return to \"normal\" but has fears around this diagnosis.\r\n\r\nWith these informations, where do we see she is in the process and what might keep her from returning to \"normal\" and to health? \r\nThese are the things to raise awareness about and to help her with if needed and wanted.', '366df74ef06e3d578f32cd356a275373', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-812-366df74ef0@www.meta-health.net', 'rlbbecker-0-a54fd4b7da@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(814, '16', 'forum', 807, 'Pr majda', 1646735433, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Thanks Kora, \r\n\r\nI forgot this important point during the analysis process: THE COLORS. It same more easier to remember and to cheak using the Wiki and compasse.\r\n\r\nThanks also Oussaima for helping by interaction in the forum. I revised the anatomy as well as the Meta-healthy analysis process (:lol:)\r\n\r\nVery interesting exercices. Thanks again Kora.', '5846ba844cfe3c21e6b9a432323c5a88', '', '', '41.250.171.39', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-807-5846ba844c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-807-fe0bb44eb2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(815, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1646778230, 135, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'What symptoms or diagnoses do you think could be showing an “Abandonment Syndrome / Kidney Tubules syndrome” at play?\r\n\r\n(KCT-syndrome: abandonment triggered during the repair of another tissue)\r\nThis leads to \r\n*Enhanced oedema \r\n*Sensation of pain is increased\r\n*Unfavourable conditions for healing\r\n\r\nOne example is polycystic ((Reproductive - Ovaries - Hormone Production|ovaries)):  Ovarian cysts appear in the repair phase, especially when the storage of fluid inflates the cysts. The theme here is a loss conflict - in this case example the client was torn between the loss of her lover as well as the possible loss of her married partner. The lover provided a resolution for her feeling of not being attractive and appreciated as a woman. By her feeling guilty of cheating her husband, and the lover leaving her, she suffers the abandonment conflict.', 'a5042b276796776bf429ca78175bd890', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(816, '16', 'forum', 815, 'ousaima', 1646851017, 6, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Hi kora , \r\nI believe I experienced many brainstem constellations in my life here’s one of them:\r\n\r\nI was stuck with a group of friends that hurt me a lot , I wanted to leave them and cut all kind of contact with them but I was stuck for years with them because there are some good friends among them ! \r\n\r\nI couldn’t digest lot of their actions ( assimilation) but at the same time I couldn’t leave that group because I don’t want the good one to be hurt , I guess I couldn’t at that time get rid of them ( no out)! But here I wonder why didn’t the dorsal vagal response symptoms appear ? As I was in a sympathetic response rather than a dorsal one as I was trying to keep on going but I ended up with dorsal vagal symptoms when I decided to leave the group and cut all kind of communication with the good as well as the bad ones ! \r\nThen I felt depressed for a while ,low blood pressure almost all the time , no energy to do anything ( these were my dorsal vagal symptoms) as I guess I was having this brain stem constellation for a very long time ( long stress phase )moved from sympathetic to dorsal vagal that took months if not more ( prolonged stress phase) \r\nI know this can also be a new brain theme but it definitely had an brain stem theme constellation that also came up with lots of constipation ( holding on these relationships) as well as diarrhea attacks( not digesting the whole situation) doctors suspected lots of digestive problems , excluding colon cancer after lab a CT scan tests, then doctors suspected this may be Irritable bowel syndrome or Other malabsorption disease that they didn’t confirm as i refused to do further tests \r\n\r\nI don’t think this constellation came with dorsal freeze response , I think I was fluctuating between constipation an diarrhea , sometimes it was severe constipation attack , and sometimes it will become severe diarrhea attack but both comes with very low blood pressure feeling no energy , dizziness, fainting sometimes I was always ending in Emergency room hospitalized because of these severe attacks . \r\nI guess they were healing peaks of a brain stem constellation conflict \r\nI felt also isolated when I decided to leave that group as I felt no one understood my feelings , that when KCT syndrome aggrevated some symptoms and appeared at that time with moe belly fat and swollen feet (water retention) , puffy eyes in the morning but also with the attacks I lost lost lots of weight and I had sleepless nights ( stress phase) then after months I gained lots of weight and I was sleeping more but my sleep was of a bad quality sleep as doctors said , I think this was a dorsal vagal sleeping pattern , Plz clarify this from your point of view Kora as there were lots of overlapping stress triggers at that time as lots of mind thoughts and fears that I guess make it hard for me to distinguish things properly.\r\nWhat’s remarkable that sometimes I had some heavy sweating at night ! Does that mean healing from KCT syndrome conflicts?', '38437f8468bef81f0694f08dec93d719', '', '', '178.87.196.107', '', NULL, 'ousaima-815-38437f8468@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(817, '16', 'forum', 816, 'Kora', 1646861500, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Hello Ousaima,\r\nthank you for sharing that fascinating case story!\r\nYour system decided what response fit best the situation. Perhaps the \"good one\" in the group you wanted to leave compensated the need to let go of them?\r\nWhen you at last cut the communication that was both a resolution and a stressor right? That must have created a KCT syndrome.\r\nI share the view that the diarrhea attacks were rather healing peaks, but as you didn\'t understand META.Health yet, they also became new stressors! Therefore, the sleep quality wasn\'t good. \r\nNightly sweating after these conflicts indeed points at microbial action to reverse tissue growth in the gut or in the kidneys.', 'f30ea4a69d4710771d0eeaa7617e7413', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-816-f30ea4a69d@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-815-38437f8468@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(818, '16', 'forum', 815, 'ousaima', 1646865348, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'yea exactly,leaving was a resolution and a stressor at the same time ,but do you mean that the pain of healing peak became a new stressor as also diagnosis wasn\'t clear that makes it a very big stressor with all the thought and fear that accompanied each healing peak.\r\nbut  when the sleep quality was bad was it the dorsal vagal ?or sympathetic ?as both are in stress phase ?or shall we watch other symptoms to confirm like may be the low blood pressure and the emotional state also?\r\n\r\nNight sweats here mean regeneration from the brain stem Constellation conflict ,as well as the release of excess water retained in KCT ,but here can you plz confirm KORA,there was a KCT but not a kidney tubule constellation,right?\r\n\r\nI have lots of heavy sweating stations my month usually that come after a very big stress even if it was a new brain conflict , is that necessarily an evidence that it\'s a regeneration from a KCT ,that accompanied a new brain theme conflict too .', '6651fd694244c2b13400f8c0172c0152', '', '', '178.87.196.107', '', NULL, 'ousaima-815-6651fd6942@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(819, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1646877026, 33, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'General questions regarding the Quiz', 'I’d have some questions regarding the Quiz:  \r\n\r\n1. Do all the questions in this quiz ask for knowledge we should have at this point?\r\n\r\n2. Are the questions designed for investigation or do you expect from us to know it all by heart?\r\n\r\n3. Is the final exam structured in the same way as the questions in this quiz?\r\n\r\n4. Are all these topics covered in this test ‚must know‘ content?\r\n\r\n5. What’s the intention of this quiz? Is it to check what we know? Or to check if we know how to look things up?\r\n\r\nThank you Kora for clarifying!', 'd86691722c9c95af27391badff046f04', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-d86691722c@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(820, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1646907870, 54, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Understanding the different brain layers', 'copied and pasted from the mini chat :\r\nLucia Franziska>Question please: to understand the brain layers more. \r\nWould it be correct to say that conflicts are related to specific parts of a brain(layers) depending on what conflict it is? \r\nFor example, if there is a loss in the family then that loss would be\r\nand here I a looking for the right word \'processed\' or \'show up\' \'have an impact on. I understand why we look at brain layers but what happens when we experience conflict. \r\nIt\'s\' processed\' in particular parts or what the word(s)?\r\nI know it\'s connected but how are conflicts connected to certain brain layers? Or why?\r\n\r\nKora Klapp>Hello Lucia, Yes conflicts are related to brain layers, but this may refer to nuances. A loss conflict can be about survival of the family (rather brain stem) or about the personal attachment to the lost person (rather new brain)\r\nKora Klapp>Conflicts relate to the brain layer that reflects the specific biological need that is breached: a basic survival need is relayed in the brain stem and reacted upon by the organs you see in the tissue list \"Brain stem - Endoderm\". The need for shelter and\r\n[07/03/22 22:06]The need for contact, belonging and self-expression is relayed in the cortex and it\'s expressed in the organs derived from the ectoderm.\r\n\r\n[08/03/22 15:12]Hi Kora, thank you for the answer! I am so glad I asked \r\n\r\nLucia Franziska>so one could say that the brain layer (or overall the brain) is a \'relayer\' rather than a processor? or one could say the brain, whatever layer is a processor as it relays \'information?\'', '74d56b6cbb9a38a8eefd500ebebd92d3', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-74d56b6cbb@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(821, '16', 'forum', 819, 'Lucia Franziska', 1646918065, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: General questions regarding the Quiz', 'Super questionS Eve,\r\nThank you x\r\n:-) ', 'c0124198bf6b6bbdf445c43eb6b8f4b6', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-819-c0124198bf@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-d86691722c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(822, '16', 'forum', 820, 'Kora', 1646919113, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'That\'s a good question Lucia!\r\nThe brain processes information and from there nerves (and hormones) bring it into the organs. Some information is directly processed in the Autonomic Nervous System, but as we know the vagus nerve (part of the ANS) has nuclei in the brain stem, so to me the brain stem and ANS merge. \r\nThe term \"relay\" was used by Dr Hamer to describe certain points and regions in the different brain layers that show a \"fingerprint\" when a certain organ tissue reacts upon a conflict. \r\nTo my knowledge there is often no direct neuronal connection from, for example, the cerebellum to the dermis for reinforcement of the tissue. Yet  the dermis is impacted by conflicts of perceived attack, at the same time as a \"fingerprint\" can be observed in the cerebellum. Scientifically, more research would be needed to explain this and to find the mechanism at play. \r\nFor us as practitioners however, it\'s enough to be aware of the biological function of the organs with which they try to help us process and resolve our conflicts, and the \"old brain\" and \"new brain\" types of conflicts and the \"plus or minus\" reaction patterns.\r\n\r\nScientists usually describe processing information as a function of the brain. Especially conscious functions are attributed to the thalamus and the cerebral cortex. So, as Craig mentioned in our last session, talking about the functions of the brain can get confusing when we take related organs into play... it\'s like two specialist languages, we need to make clear which one we use in a conversation.', '800f1875f6b3e8a08bb70ff05fbcda16', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-820-800f1875f6@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-74d56b6cbb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(823, '16', 'forum', 819, 'Kora', 1646919936, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: General questions regarding the Quiz', '1. They ask for knowledge that you should know where to find at this point. It was either named in our sessions or in the material we worked with.\r\n2. They are designed for checking your guesses with our material. I don\'t expect that you learn details by heart. LIke, there is a question about microbes which we didn\'t discuss in detail, but we discussed which types of microbes typically appear in organs related to the brain stem. I expect you to be able to find out which of the named microbes are fungi or mycobacteria.\r\n3. We don\'t need a final exam when you went through all the quizzes. You don\'t need to memorize all details, but you need to know where to look and how to think and make sense, when you practise META-Health.\r\n4. See above.\r\n5. See above.\r\n\r\nHope that helps!', 'c28583117b9b141fca0ea50d56d90834', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-819-c28583117b@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-d86691722c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(824, '16', 'forum', 819, 'Eve Kosko', 1646924169, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: General questions regarding the Quiz', 'Yes that helps a lot to know!!! \r\nThank you for clarifying!\r\n\r\nGood to know we wont have a final exam than, hehehe ;-)\r\n\r\nThank you Kora for all your hard work!', '838a5d1a339597dfbbb986b9e4e113b4', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-819-838a5d1a33@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-819-c28583117b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(825, '16', 'forum', 820, 'Lucia Franziska', 1646951061, 23, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'Thank you very much.\r\nWould you know what German word he used for the word relay, please? You put them in hyphen and I wonder', 'd6e619ed7bc4548462dfc651c122f655', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-820-d6e619ed7b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-820-800f1875f6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(826, '16', 'forum', 825, 'Kora', 1646988235, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'He called them \"Hirnrelais\" in German.', 'e5f6358240af54fa016bb5f82dcc2ed3', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-825-e5f6358240@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-820-d6e619ed7b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(827, '16', 'forum', 825, 'Lucia Franziska', 1647019464, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'Thank you. \r\nI found this to the subject. It might be mentioned in the Eybl book but I couldn\'t remember', 'b7dff110c8146aaeef6c7413703ed48e', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-825-b7dff110c8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-825-e5f6358240@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(828, '16', 'forum', 825, 'Lucia Franziska', 1647019572, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', '(http)://5bn.wiki/wiki/Hirnrelais (in English)\r\nCopy and paste without brackets', '3c22c330d498f7ea6fd2a900011ee4e9', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-825-3c22c330d4@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-825-b7dff110c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(829, '16', 'forum', 825, 'Kora', 1647036690, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'They say \"Each brain relay is connected to its target organ by sympathetic and parasympathetic nerves.\"\r\nI\'m not aware that any direct connection of cortical regions to organs via sympathetic nerves could be shown to exist. [https://www.mussenhealth.us/cerebral-cortex/autonomic-nervous-system-effects.html|This article] describes the working of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nerves. \r\nIn lesson 4 we discussed the cascade in a UDIN, via the amygdala and hypothalamus.\r\nHowever, our observation as Practitioners is that we can access our organs and even specific tissues by mindfulness and imagination. So we know that the mechanism exists, and can leave its details to research to show ;-)\r\nSome interesting studies have been done on identifying emotions in the cerebral cortex [https://www.kurzweilai.net/identifying-emotions-based-on-brain-activity-and-machine-learning-techniques|here].', 'd72bac7b3f846fb72c7ba93a8ea7ea94', '', '', '188.238.12.166', '', NULL, 'Kora-825-d72bac7b3f@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-825-3c22c330d4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(830, '16', 'forum', 815, 'ousaima', 1647192361, 18, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Hi kora ,  \r\nI have another brain stem constellation to share \r\nAfter my neck surgery , as I told you before , I had to do physiotherapy that lasted for almost one year .\r\n\r\nWhen I decided to do physiotherapy I was totally damaged emotionally and physically, severe pain that I can’t handle anymore( no way out) , lots of bad thoughts , can’t digest how doctors deal with my situation  ( assimilation) ,Searching for the best doctors , I wanted to believe their opinions but at the same time I didn’t have trust that they were dealing in the right way with my health condition ( assimilation , getting rid of) , anxiety and panic attacks , virtigo and more ( I notice here that most NewBrain theme conflicts are accompanied with brain stem constellation am I right plz correct this idea for me Kora ? Because sometimes you just can’t digest your new brain theme conflict in , and sometimes you’re stuck and can’t get out of the situation ? ( no in , no out) \r\n\r\nThat all came with dorsal vagal symptoms ( sleepless nights , anxiety, severe depression, anger bouts,loss of appetite, crying all the time, hopeless ) \r\nIsolation feelings , even I’m surrounded with my family but I felt isolated and At that time I felt no one understood my pain , neither my family nor the doctors) ( KCT syndrome but Here i’m still confused if it was a kidney tubule constellation as I felt disoriented can’t know where to go and from whom to seek help  or was it only a KCT syndrome? I had that back pain from kidney sides always doubting I have a kidney problem as at that time less urine outcome, drinking very little amounts of water but I took decision to do my own lab tests without referring to any doctor , always checking CBC ,ESR , liver and kidney functions , iron , ferritin and others \r\nLab tests showed  low ferritin levels and slightly high ESR but nothing else . \r\n\r\nKCT was making a trouble I guess aggravating pain everywhere in my body even in my musculoskeletal system , neck , back , legs , arms , everywhere adding more pain to the original after surgery complications .\r\n\r\nThat was a very prolonged stress phase , then I began physiotherapy , but I didn’t trust the physiotherapist at the beginning , but a day after a day I was convinced with the way he’s dealing with my health condition, ( reached rapport after months ), he realized that my thoughts were  making my healing slower , because he reaches a very good improvement in my muscle function in the session but after one day everything will be back to tension again , when we discussed that , I didn’t have  an explanation but he was always talking to me about the thoughts but I realized that always after each session i’ll be freezing for about 3 hours and sometimes more , I used to wear very heavy clothes after each session but it was summer at that time with 40c degrees , \r\nMy body temperature will not get back to normal , my extremities will be freezing ( dorasl vagal ? ) but with frequent urination , until after 4 hours every thing gets back to normal again . \r\nFrequent urination here indicates getting rid of KCT water retention ? Do we consider it regeneration from KCT syndrome or regeneration from  Kidney tubules constellation ? \r\n\r\nThat happened almost every session in the last 3 months of my physiotherapy \r\n \r\nHere I got confused why it happened after each session ? Each session I had physical pain as well as emotional relief because I speak out all my fears with the physiotherapist and he confirms each time that nothing will go wrong ( no more feelings of isolation) that explains why lots of urinating after session  ( regeneration from KCT) \r\nBut feeling freezing at the same time I think is a healing peak rather than a dorsal response , ??I’m confused here ! But when I think more to confirm it was a healing peak I found things contradicting, because there wasn’t deep sleeps before the healing peaks ?  It was always after the physiotherapy session immediately after physical pain ? \r\nIt lasted for hours which again make me suspect healing peaks , \r\nIf we want to think it’s a dorsal vagal response of a brain stem constellation what could the conflict be ? \r\n\r\nMy last question is : \r\nIf they were healing peaks why did I had them many times for three months almost a day after a day as much as I had sessions ?', '0fa2c8b2423bb0d667991fdacf84b201', '', '', '149.109.120.77', '', NULL, 'ousaima-815-0fa2c8b242@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(831, '16', 'forum', 830, 'Kora', 1647199848, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthere are lots of informations in your post, some of which relate to the brain stem and others not. So, let\'s put anxiety, panic attacks and vertigo as well as depression and anger aside, for they seem related to cerebral cortex issues which we\'ll cover later.\r\nThe dorsal vagal response, which is active in the brain stem constellation, is somewhat like \"feigning dead\": one doesn\'t move, the heart rate and life functions are down, and one can\'t think straight. \r\nWhen we\'re angry, usually the heart rate and blood pressure is quite high, that\'s the sympathetic nerves making us ready to fight.\r\nSo what I read is that you definitely activated the kidney tubules and they exacerbate the pain and decrease orientation. \r\n\r\nThe relationship with your physiotherapist seems a tricky one, first you found it hard to trust him which means that you stayed somewhat defensive (and the tubules weren\'t released). Then he succeeded in relaxing your muscles, and does so repeatedly, but the success doesn\'t last. So there is a resolution (shown by frequent urination) but as it also comes with pain, it pulls your muscles back into tightness, right?\r\nSo he may be right that it\'s your long-imprinted thoughts and beliefs that are at play, or it\'s simply the sensation of pain that\'s the stress trigger (of self-devaluation?). \r\n\r\nRegarding the freezing, this seems like healing peaks of the KCT to me. And they came repeatedly because you were back in a stress response in the meantime.\r\nThe musculoskeletal system isn\'t easy to work with, pain can come on both phases, therefore we need motivation by something we believe in to get us through the rough! \r\nSo you may reflect what is happening when your muscles relax? Is relaxation possible without making you freeze? Are your conditions at home safe for relaxing?', '6dc345fa88afa48880478b584769526d', '', '', '109.240.13.173', '', NULL, 'Kora-830-6dc345fa88@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-815-0fa2c8b242@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(832, '16', 'forum', 830, 'ousaima', 1647210753, 12, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thanks Kora ,\r\nI realized also that there was a Constellation regarding what I was going through at that time may be because I had different feelings at the same time , wanted my therapy sessions to continue so that I feel more emotional and physical relief and at the same time I want to depend on myself to relieve my pain as the physiotherapist said he’ll leave the country after a while and I don’t trust any other therapists  and I felt I want to continue my sessions and at the same time to depend on myself to relieve my pain ? Is this kind of constellation a new brain one ? Or constellations come only with brain stem issues? \r\n\r\nAbout your reply ,it’s amazing it just brought everything together in my mind, it was as you said exactly because he was working on my condition for almost one year   I realized now that it wasn’t easy for him to reach rapport with me :)But once we reached rapport I started sharing lots of my thoughts here he discovered that my pain and muscle stiffness always come back after less than a day and sometimes in the same session , he said it was the pain that  I can’t handle even if it was little pain( the pain is always a stress trigger for me), and the fear that each pain will bring a bigger health problem to me , and a lots of “what if This makes me more sick” questions ( self talks are also big stress triggers)\r\nThat’s why he used to talk half an hour before we begin the session asking of what I was thinking just before my muscles pain came back, and sometimes I just can’t remember and he used also to ask me to watch my thoughts when I feel My muscles relaxed to pinpoint what triggers the pain again , I guess now I understood everything:) thanks Kora That’s really amazing .\r\n\r\nAbout the freezing sensation it doesn’t always come with the relaxation so relaxing most of the time comes without freezing ! But at that time when I was doing that physiotherapy sessions it was happening frequently related to the sessions only , my home conditions are not that relaxing to me as I feel tied up because of my muscle pain and I always like my home to be tidy and clean and to do things by myself but my pain was and still restricting me from doing that , that’s why seeing things untidy were my biggest stress triggers I think that bring tightness to my muscles again after sessions along with the idea that I wanted to heal quickly before the therapist leave the country and also the pain thoughts.\r\n\r\nNow I’m back to physiotherapy but with another therapist as the first one left back to his country and no longer works here.\r\nUnfortunately I still don’t trust the way the nee therapist is dealing with my condition ,  can you help me here Kora , as I don’t feel I’m isolated anymore because my family now understands a little bit of What I share with them about Meta , and they totally understand what I’m going through (no isolation) but I’m again in this cycle of “ no doctor understands my condition no one knows how to deal with my condition”  and that’s make me feel medically isolated if we can say that ! So can we consider that this kind of isolation also makes KCT syndrome? because I always feel water retention in my body and I’m sure I’m having ongoing KCT . Here comes another question to my mind , can we relieve KCT by drinking lots of water without resolving the KCT conflict ? Or it’s always about resolving the KCT conflict first?', 'd13a69b01bc8cd4806f7e467ca9017ea', '', '', '149.109.120.77', '', NULL, 'ousaima-830-d13a69b01b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-830-6dc345fa88@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(833, '16', 'forum', 832, 'Kora', 1647280348, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Having mixed feelings isn\'t a classical constellation, but a conflict of your values: independence vs getting help to heal quicker. This is what I mean in the documentation form in point 14. \"Conflicting values/priorities\"\r\nThere are constellations in all brain layers. Wanting to do everything by oneself MIGHT be due to a \"cerebral medulla constellation\", that is when one has self-devaluations regarding both partner and children/parents. We\'ll cover those when we dive deeper into that layer.\r\nWe see that you don\'t keep up the muscle success because you take your home environment too seriously and you judge yourself for untidyness.\r\nHere would be something to explore why it is so important to have your home tidy? \r\nAnother thing to work on is the fearful self-talk which creates expectation of more pain. I think, by this you are reactivating both self-devaluation and the KCT.\r\n\r\nWe\'ll talk more about the kidney tubules in tomorrow\'s session!', '405c05b7a0e51da342cfb8aa68a43c3b', '', '', '109.240.225.109', '', NULL, 'Kora-832-405c05b7a0@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-830-d13a69b01b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(834, '16', 'forum', 832, 'ousaima', 1647289344, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thanks a lot Kora , that explains a lot of things :) see you all tomorrow :)', '5db540649798396e941cc850779b888a', '', '', '149.109.120.77', '', NULL, 'ousaima-832-5db5406497@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-832-405c05b7a0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(835, '16', 'forum', 815, 'rlbbecker', 1647291134, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thank you for your courage in sharing your story, Ousaima! I am so grateful for you and recognize such strength in you!! \r\n\r\nI wanted to share a couple of examples regarding Task Lesson 8 to make sure I\'m on the right track.\r\n\r\nBrain Stem Constellation: (this is a mild example perhaps, but happened to me recently.) I worked for many years at a company only leaving just as Covid was hitting. My daughter still works at this place. Several weeks ago, she called me sobbing to tell me that new ownership had fired a mutual and dear friend of ours. Having worked with him for years and knowing his work ethic, work in the field, and heart in all that he does, I was STUNNED!! Also incredulous was the fact that his wife was due shortly with their first child (born a week ago). I couldn\'t speak and was having a very hard time processing what she was telling me. I just couldn\'t make sense of her words! Is this an example of a Brain Stem Constellation?\r\n\r\nKidney-Tubules Constellation: I have a dear friend, Stacey who became \"in charge\" of her alcoholic mother and drug addict sister when their father left the family when she was a young teenager. Erica had a daughter which Stacey helped raised. Then 13 years ago got a call that another daughter had been born and Stacey agreed to raise and then adopt that little girl. Several years ago she received a visit from law enforcement letting her know her sister had died of a drug overdose. (this is horrible news to receive and I was there with her at the time.) She completely shut down, couldn\'t speak, hyperventilated, unable to process the officer\'s words, became disoriented and began rocking back and forth. Since then she has suffered from CHRONIC UTI\'s (hasn\'t had a sexual partner for 15 years) and kidney stones, more weight gain. She had a hysterectomy that she almost died from and about a year and a half ago had surgery for 5 hernias. (I realize there are other brain systems at play here as well.) Is this an example of the Kidney Tubules? \r\n\r\nThank you!', '9ca71651a3cc976d85b4a571858e9012', '', '', '71.87.153.233', '', NULL, 'rlbbecker-815-9ca71651a3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(836, '16', 'forum', 835, 'Kora', 1647298017, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thank you so much Rebecca for your examples!\r\nTo me they read spot-on for the brain stem and the KCT constellations.\r\nThe first example I should say is about a loss conflict and a worry for the child - as you were so close you may have experienced these on their behalf.\r\nStacey\'s story is heart-wrenching. I hope we find ideas how to help her overcome her trauma and the sequelae in tomorrow\'s session!', 'ab6963eef76d9fe989641eadcd5871b6', '', '', '109.240.225.109', '', NULL, 'Kora-835-ab6963eef7@www.meta-health.net', 'rlbbecker-815-9ca71651a3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(837, '16', 'forum', 835, 'ousaima', 1647299191, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thanks Rebecca for sharing this, and plz Kora can you explain more about Rebecca’s examples .\r\nThe first example I saw that she may be was feeling injustice because her friend who was sincere at work was fired if I understood it correctly. Rebecca didn’t digest in this news and couldn’t take it in ( no in) if we can say that , it’s obviously having a brain stem chunk side but why did we consider it here as a constellation ? Plz if you can explain this for me I’ll be so grateful \r\nThanks again Rebecca for sharing this :)', 'af1691016a372a56aeab46164b5e86d3', '', '', '149.109.120.77', '', '', 'ousaima-835-1dc8e8c99b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-835-ab6963eef7@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(838, '16', 'forum', 835, 'ousaima', 1647299888, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'The second example I saw that stacey suffered of a lot of things , I hope she’ll get well with the help Of Meta . \r\n\r\nWhen stacey received  that call that was definitely a UDIN moment with a dorsal vagal feign death response, right ?or do we consider that each UDIN moment brings up a constellation with it ? i’m still confused about how we considered it as a constellation? I mean there’s definitely an abandonment conflict (KCT) but how Can I differentiate a syndrome from a constellation ? \r\nThanks Kora in advance', 'd67b664ffed10f808c3ae4e7c9f960f6', '', '', '149.109.120.77', '', '', 'ousaima-835-940b9bb418@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-835-ab6963eef7@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(839, '16', 'forum', 815, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1647341632, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'What symptoms or diagnoses do you think could be showing an “Abandonment Syndrome / Kidney Tubules syndrome” at play?\r\n \r\nI have one example related to some symptoms I have observed in one case from my relatives; he is working in another country and his family are staying in there home country usually when he is alone in the other country he suffers from weight gain, facial swelling especially under eye , very sever low back pain which all of this \r\n are related to water retention  [ from my point of view this is stress phase of kidney tubules syndrome  ] \r\non his vacation when he meets his family his weight is decreased and there is no edema in face or in any part of his body and also he can sleep very well and the rate of urination increased [which is from my point of view he is in regeneration phase at that time ] \r\nand regarding to his low back pain I think it was regeneration phase of other conflict which is exaggerated or become more sever by the stress phase of abandoned conflict and I am confused if there is brain stem constellation in this case or no so kindly kora if there is any explain it for me.', '18e549052c1eca5957652db1dc39ce5c', '', '', '196.132.96.122', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-815-18e549052c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a5042b2767@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(840, '16', 'forum', 839, 'Kora', 1647374272, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Hi Basma,\r\nas we discussed today, he obviously had the \"KCT syndrome\" but not the constellation, otherwise he had been stunned and disoriented!\r\nNow you perhaps have got some ideas how to help him overcome this pattern? :-)', 'fb113546a736bc4860d7a77338758fe3', '', '', '46.132.27.152', '', NULL, 'Kora-839-fb113546a7@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-815-18e549052c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(841, '16', 'forum', 825, 'Lucia Franziska', 1647512666, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding the different brain layers', 'Thank you for the info. \r\n\r\nI have found during Vipassana meditation, which is mindfulness not imagination, that memory can be simply accessed through focusing one\'s attention on specific body parts.\r\n\r\n(For reference when coming back to this thread: What are the cortical regions?\r\nThe cerebrum consists of two cerebral hemispheres the outer layer called the cortex (gray matter) and the inner layer (white matter). There are four lobes in the cortex, the frontal lobe, parietal lobe, temporal lobe, occipital lobe).\r\n\r\n\r\nInteresting study about emotions. \r\nEmotions are the glue to everything. They are the chemistry in our body and the energy that contains force-chi-ki and a wealth of information released when we put our focus on it and stuck and causing problems in our body when we hold on to it.\r\n\r\nEmotions are on a quantum level energy that is stuck. It feels like pulling invisible energy out of a field that is denser, such as a person\'s body. \r\nVarious people call that pulling out and connecting to the field various things: Joe Dispenza for example calls it \'Distance Coherence Healing\' (https://drjoedispenza.com/pages/coherence-healing).\r\nAll it is, is connecting with our hand with the invisible quantum field and \'lighten\' it up by pulling out invisible stuck energy (quantum level: from particle to wave). \r\nIt\'s good fun but also brings up a stuck energy/emotions in oneself.', 'a85b9fabce22b210a80e969f3495f06f', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-825-60cebefc63@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-825-d72bac7b3f@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(842, '16', 'forum', 799, 'Lucia Franziska', 1647645410, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Hi, I only just saw this! Thank you for your answer! That makes total sense! Yay!\r\n\r\nWhere can I read more about the different needs and what brain parts are related to the needs that have been breached, please? in the Eybl book?\r\nMany thanks\r\n\r\nLuci', '17eba701feb490b943e9fbb45fbbec09', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-799-17eba701fe@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-799-e46af2c1f5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(843, '16', 'forum', 839, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1647679668, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 8: the kidney tubules syndrome', 'Thank you very much I will try to do my best to help him.', '5e5bae64f85d2c82623ddab6f9caa7f7', '', '', '196.132.69.137', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-839-5e5bae64f8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-839-fb113546a7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(844, '16', 'forum', 799, 'Kora', 1647722966, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task Lesson No 7', 'Hey Lucia, \r\nin the Wiki, you look under \"Mind - Theme\" in each organ/tissue chapter.\r\nThe related brain areas are named there as well.\r\nIn the book, you look for the colour frame related to the brain layers and germ layers accordingly in each organ.\r\nIn our tissue lists (worksheets), I also named basic biological functions for the tissues which can also be understood metaphorically.', '018ea3e304982c4c0b3f51070e56abdc', '', '', '188.238.91.40', '', NULL, 'Kora-799-018ea3e304@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-799-17eba701fe@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(845, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1647780496, 25, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'some clarifications ', 'Good afternoon kora,\r\n\r\nkindly can you explain to me what\'s meant by these conflicts and also some examples for them as when i was reading last lesson presentation i didn\'t understand them\r\n1-water-fliudity conflict related to kidney parenchyma\r\n2-Overwhelm of drowning conflicts\r\nand also what you mean by  Mind-expanding methods and substances can help to enable resolution and thriving and if you don\'t mind can give me some examples for that\r\n \r\nthank you in advance for your cooperation always', 'e4505d2212a23c07f3c96dfb3bc3a5b9', '', '', '196.132.69.137', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-0-e4505d2212@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(846, '16', 'forum', 845, 'Kora', 1647810351, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: some clarifications ', 'Hello Basma,\r\n1 and 2 are one type of conflict that the kidney parenchyma (the glomeruli system) reacts upon with a loss of function.\r\nThe theme has to do with fluids (water, blood, beverage etc), usually a \"too much\" of a liquid, or that it is connected to danger, like the threat of drowning. One of my clients had a memory of  almost drowning in a lake as a child. Another one had a fear about the icy decks of the ferry he worked on. Another one had a partner who was an alcoholic. And another one drowned in tasks and challenges with the feeling of \"not keeping her head above the water\".\r\nIn the book you read several more examples on page 276.\r\n\r\nWe need mind-expanding methods when we are stuck in our thoughts. Mind-expanding means we get access to different parts of the brain and their functions, to new perspectives and to solutions we couldn\'t perceive. We can exercise that by looking up to the starry sky, or when we stand on a mountain top, or dive in the sea... From there, our problems look different. We can do this in our mind as well, like in self-hypnosis. \r\nMusic can help us to get into different mental states, as can smells, and breathing methods (check out [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5hYLw8qzk|holotropic breathing]).\r\n And all over the world, certain substances were traditionally used to help with that, like teas, mushrooms and drugs such as cannabis. As I said in the session, I don\'t encourage anyone to use drugs on their own, but in a controlled therapeutic setting they definitively have a value to break free from ingrained negative patterns.\r\n\r\nI hope this helps!', 'd265216b81e0664d498b4de8574e7076', '', '', '109.240.67.167', '', NULL, 'Kora-845-d265216b81@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-0-e4505d2212@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(847, '16', 'forum', 845, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1647812382, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: some clarifications ', 'thank you very much for your clarification and help', '295ceb5baf7c620a9b4f45975ed43929', '', '', '196.132.69.137', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-845-295ceb5baf@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-845-d265216b81@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(848, '16', 'forum', 0, 'rlbbecker', 1647902094, 29, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Abandonment Syndrome/Kidney Tubules syndrome at play ??', 'Hi Kora, \r\n\r\nI have a personal experience which I THINK may be an example of this but I\'m not sure. This particular experience is FULL of META meanings, haha, so may have other things more present. But regarding the subject matter at hand, I will speak to just some specifics. To lay the foundation: last March 13th, 2021, I had to have an emergency appendectomy. For some reason, even though they knew it was perforated, they waited 13 hours to operate. At the same time, I tested positive for Covid. I had had it a month prior so had the antibiodies but because of the positive test result my husband had to leave the hospital and I was all alone. The surgeon said when he opened me up it was \"spewing pus and stool and my liver was surrounded with pus.\" (LOTS there with my job etc...I ended up with a massive wound under my belly button connected by two tunnels, wound vac TWICE, it wouldn\'t heal, more surgery etc. The rectus abdominis muscles were cut transverse during surgery but the sutures split causing a massive, complicated, tricky hernia. I looked 6 months pregnant on the right side of my body. It took a specialist (NOT the original surgeon..ugh) to repair that last October 7th.) Anyway, because of the positive Covid test, I was alone the entire time in the hospital for 6 days. Even the staff didn\'t come in very often. Everyone was afraid. I was left to take care of myself most of the time. I am definitely stronger and feeling healthier but am still recovering from the October abdominal reconstruction surgery. (I call last year my Divine Pause. It lead me to EFT and to META-Health and I am so grateful!!) To the left (if you\'re facing me) of the very large and deformed scar from the appendectomy, it is numb (surgeon clipped a nerve during first surgery) and there STILL an edema there. They tell me they \"hope\" it will dissipate. Could this be an example of Kidney Tubules syndrome?? (I apologize for the long explanation. Felt like I needed to give some context.)\r\n\r\nThank you!', '18986914f2812664e40edd18d0dda30a', '', '', '71.87.153.233', '', NULL, 'rlbbecker-0-18986914f2@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(849, '16', 'forum', 848, 'Kora', 1647904518, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Abandonment Syndrome/Kidney Tubules syndrome at play ??', 'Hi Rebekka,\r\nwhat a journey you had with this! Thank grace you found your META-meaning and peace with it!\r\nYes that\'s definitely a case of the \"KCT syndrome\".\r\nAnother contribution to the lasting oedema and big scar could actually be a response in your protective layers, relayed in the cerebellum, for having been cut open (a physical attack to the abdomen). We\'ll talk about these issues in today\'s class :-)', '01e1f5b3381a9d1adf2743b67d2b57c0', '', '', '109.240.250.43', '', NULL, 'Kora-848-01e1f5b338@www.meta-health.net', 'rlbbecker-0-18986914f2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(850, '16', 'forum', 848, 'rlbbecker', 1647910264, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Abandonment Syndrome/Kidney Tubules syndrome at play ??', 'I just finished watching the video you provided for our homework and I was thinking the exact same thing! I could relate to SO much of what you were saying because of this experience!! \r\n\r\nThank you! See you tomorrow! \r\n\r\nRebecca :)', '372259326d91c6beefb05f5fd27ee3fc', '', '', '71.87.153.233', '', NULL, 'rlbbecker-848-372259326d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-848-01e1f5b338@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(851, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1647959181, 17, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What word did you use?', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nIn the teleseminar at minute 15:35 you say the syringe can be an attack agains our skin, but also against our...? What word did you use there? Also I could not figure out quite well what the meninges has to do with syringes... Help please :-)', 'a0325780217830d61524160605996966', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', '', 'Eve Kosko-0-7428982dbb@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(852, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1647987850, 73, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Please take your time to check out the video.\r\nIt contains a lot of \"meat\", so perhaps you want to break it up in several smaller chunks?\r\nIf you post your questions in this thread, we can all think about answers! ;-)', '0322d155b25a51fe7f0426dde1f53de3', '', '', '109.240.207.108', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-0322d155b2@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(853, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1648154641, 18, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Presentation', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\n1.Please correct me if I\'m wrong, but could it be that there\'s no Lesson 10 in the drop down menu under META Health Kurs-Pro 2022? I can only get to lesson 10 if I\'m using the link you provided in the email you send out. Same with the task tab.\r\n\r\n2. The link you provided under the Teleseminar we should watch this week only shows the presentation PDF of last week, not the one used in the teleseminar, correct?', '9c4a39f1404a932a70d589f3620c49cb', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-9c4a39f140@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(854, '16', 'forum', 853, 'Kora', 1648161889, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Presentation', 'Thank you Eve, both are corrected now!', 'bcd880ba9e1ddc6d427e4192a9df9f52', '', '', '188.238.195.137', '', NULL, 'Kora-853-bcd880ba9e@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-9c4a39f140@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(855, '16', 'forum', 852, 'Eve Kosko', 1648212609, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nWould you mind explaining again the megalomania? I didn\'t quite get that one. :-)\r\nThank you!', 'ed9912c14a7f23d6c12a9d9dc8a4b1cf', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-852-ed9912c14a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0322d155b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(856, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1648213719, 47, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'food intolerance', 'Hey Kora!\r\n\r\nI wonder where food intolerance comes from. \r\nMy friend has lot of them and therefore she now even learned to work as a health coach and is specialized in gut health. But instead of getting to the roots of the issue, she helps people how to get new food habits, avoiding those  types of food. Just as she herself is doing. And with this she says she is doing fine now.\r\nFor me I feel like this is not really fixing the root issue but instead working with the body symptoms. \r\n\r\nI wonder what the META perspective is on that. \r\n\r\nThank you Kora!', 'bdfde98dcb41c1acce12dbdd31c7e962', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-bdfde98dcb@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(857, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1648214741, 26, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Bleeding from smear test', 'Another question I have is regarding another friend.\r\n\r\nShe has ulcers in her uterus and the doctor says they have to make a curettage. She had to do that already some years ago and at that occasion the was bleeding exceptionally strong. It caused a real issue for the doctors team. \r\n\r\nEven though she has NO hemophilia. She does not bleed in other parts of her body like this. It just happens in her reproduction system. \r\n\r\nEven when she sees the gynecologist and they just do a smear test she starts to bleed a LOT. \r\nAnd of course nobody knows why she has that.\r\n\r\nWhen I heard this I immediately wanted to figure out what’s going on there but I feel completely  incapable and don’t even know where to start. \r\n\r\nWhat would you ask her?\r\nAnd would you look into the blood vessels or into the reproduction system in the Wiki? Or maybe even the skin…? \r\n\r\n\r\nThank you Kora', '0a4cbe086bd4d5912eadc709cbf109ac', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-0a4cbe086b@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(858, '16', 'forum', 855, 'Kora', 1648225205, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Megalomania or the \"motivational constellation\" occurs with self-devaluation conflicts in either hemisphere: one regarding your peers and one regarding your parents/children. These produce a stubbornness or perseverance, to the extent that you feel invincible or may elevate yourself over others.  There are different themes or nuances of this constellation, depending on the types of conflict. \r\nLike, I diagnose myself with a \"justice megalomania\", I\'m easily triggered by things I find unfair to myself or others and I\'m motivated to fight against these things. And my neck is a soft spot... Originating conflicts may have been comparison to my sister, and one is on behalf of my mother.', '940d9740184072598dfffee162eef7d9', '', '', '86.114.219.155', '', NULL, 'Kora-855-940d974018@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-852-ed9912c14a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(859, '16', 'forum', 852, 'Eve Kosko', 1648232905, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Oh okay I see. Thank you!', '9c15a057a17f1dc4f6996d643aec9766', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-852-9c15a057a1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0322d155b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(860, '16', 'forum', 856, 'Kora', 1648241493, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: food intolerance', 'Food intolerances can appear when the substance in question was somehowe connected to a UDIN, and saved as a warning trigger. The symptoms prompted by the intolerance reflect what kind of theme the UDIN had. Like, skin rash = contact/separation, breathing trouble = invasion of territory etc\r\nHaving said that, if your friend is fine with what she found out, good for her! She wouldn\'t have a motive for digging deeper. We usually get the clients that aren\'t yet happy with their situation.', '34f8560aed07622a79153b94eb92c195', '', '', '86.114.219.155', '', NULL, 'Kora-856-34f8560aed@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-bdfde98dcb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(861, '16', 'forum', 857, 'Kora', 1648243367, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Bleeding from smear test', 'I\'d want to know exactly what happened physically and emotionally before the bleeding started, and I\'d want to confirm that it is uncoagulated blood for to rule out a regeneration phase. \r\nWe hypothesize a damage to the inner lining of the ((Reproductive - Uterus - Mouth and Neck|cervix)) or ((Reproductive - Uterus - Endometrium|uterus)) which is weakened by ulcera (check where this term appears in the compass?)\r\nAs ulcers per se don\'t necessarily bleed, we see here that the tissue must be rich in blood vessels and that the ((Circulatory - Arteries|vessel walls)) seem to be weakened, too.\r\nBleeding is also a cleaning mechanism, which might be a reaction to a perceived \"dirty wound\".\r\nSome things to explore with her and see what brings up emotion!', '47bd356a7648d25172debbdc6bedfee0', '', '', '86.114.219.155', '', NULL, 'Kora-857-47bd356a76@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-0a4cbe086b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(862, '16', 'forum', 856, 'ousaima', 1648249656, 11, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Hi kora, I’m working on my kids issues and I wonder too if META health science has answers for  this too as it’s related also to food habits .\r\n\r\nMy elderly daughter she’s 17 years old now but at age of one year and a half stopped eating fruits totally and even lots of veggies, she’s not having intolerance from any ,she’s not only not eating fruits and vegetables but also feels disgusted from anything put besides them , she can’t touch them she feels nauseated if she touches them accidentally , when she was younger she used not to play with her sister if her sister touched fruits and until now she’s like this .\r\nThen her younger brother did the same at almost the same age, now her brother is 4 years old and eating no fruits at all and almost no veggies other than cooked peas and cucumber but he uncomfortably does that . \r\n\r\nI wonder if this has any roots to be solved . \r\nBoth has no explanations on why this happens with them , many doctors adviced that they had to try but even trying to let someone eats something that he doesn’t like is not good and comes with really bad results that doctors couldn’t imagine.', 'c0a49fae3dba466b7e80b3f456209100', '', '', '142.247.82.20', '', NULL, 'ousaima-856-c0a49fae3d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-856-34f8560aed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(863, '16', 'forum', 862, 'Kora', 1648314010, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\na food phobia can of course have a background of trauma connected to that food, or to something your kids associate with those looks, feels, smells and tastes. When the beginning happened at a certain age or date, this may even be connected to a UDIN that happened at exactly that date, and even the date can be passed on as an information to others.\r\nSo if your kids suffer from their phobia you might ask what happened at age 1 that was nauseating?\r\n\r\nSometimes there is an easy answer, like when I was a school kid and was at a birthday party where we got some special deep-fried food. The next day I was very sick, probably with a flu. But since that day I wouldn\'t stand the smell of such deep-fried food anymore, it was associated with being sick! Nowadays I can eat that, but it\'s not a favourite.\r\n\r\nAnother explanation can be that your kids lack a certain mechanism to digest fresh fruit, and therefore feel disgusted by it. I also have something similar with cheese, never liked the smell and taste, and a doctor told me I\'d lack an enzyme to break it down. If that happens, it also has an explanation: obviously a function-minus that persisted, usually as a warning mechanism.', '30b8cd34fa4c53fcd5c0c76bd593106d', '', '', '176.72.29.89', '', NULL, 'Kora-862-30b8cd34fa@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-856-c0a49fae3d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(864, '16', 'forum', 862, 'ousaima', 1648357793, 20, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Thanks Kora that’s really interesting, but how can we refer to a UDIN moment especially that they quit eating this at a very young age they were only one year and a half and may be younger than that ? Also regarding feeling disgusted of the texture or taste how can it be especially towards all kinds of fruits ? I mean it seems logical if it’s one or two kinds of fruit right? Especially that they used to love it at younger age let’s say bananas as an example , they used to eat about 4 bananas a day they loved the taste a texture and used to ask for more even strawberries and other kinds but when they cut suddenly eating this they began with bananas ! The kind they loved it the most they hate it the most later on . Even if they see a juice or icecream or even a chocolate with a colored color from outside they recognize at a very early age that since the cover is colored there may be some fruits they’ll not even touch it or taste it , wer’re talking about the age of one year and a half here ! Recognizing that colored packaging could mean that there are some fruits here even if there aren’t , that’s why even colored candies or icecream they will not eat ! \r\nAnd both are different in age my daughter is 17 now and my son is only 4 years old with same attitudes of his sister ! Could it be that he had some VAGOKS ? May be seeing his sister reactions at a very you g age toward fruits ? \r\n\r\nRegarding the other possibility (enzyme) , it seems reasonable but also how can it be to all kinds of fruits and veggies? And I forgot to tell you that with time they also began to cut any kind of protein but I was trying to let them not do that by exposing them to proteins more often , it worked with my daughter but her brother is now hardly eats them , and I realized when I let him sometimes eat meat or chicken he will for the coming days have flue like symptoms and he’ll lose his voice it affects his vocal cords but it’s not always like that !', '78a4f857c838e10466791051ba372bb0', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-862-78a4f857c8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-862-30b8cd34fa@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(865, '16', 'forum', 862, 'ousaima', 1648357992, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'I mean how can they remember if there was a UDIN moment since it began at a very young age?', '5d6c13cba25b9efd78080fae981bd7d1', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-862-5d6c13cba2@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-862-78a4f857c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(866, '16', 'forum', 856, 'Eve Kosko', 1648374511, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: food intolerance', 'Hey Kora, thank you for your answer. Also in regards to \"if the person is happy with her state, we wouldnt interviene\" Very wise. Good to remember.\r\nI found your listing of related symptoms interesting, like skin rash = contact/separation, breathing trouble = invasion of territory etc. Do you have more of that? Maybe an entire list of typical symptoms? Whats diarrhea or nausea as an example stand for? Or stomach ache?', 'd7aaaba3482cc6c24e07f35423175034', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-856-d7aaaba348@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-bdfde98dcb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(867, '16', 'forum', 856, 'Eve Kosko', 1648374782, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: food intolerance', 'Thank you a lot for your answer. Also the point that we don\'t interviene when a person is happy with her state. Very wise.\r\n\r\nI wonder if you have an entire list/could create one of typical reactions/symptoms and whats their meaning. Like many react with diarrhea or nausea, what do they stand for ect? That would be super helpful! (:lol:)', 'c9ef1a530f14a5564a2759a4a183662e', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-856-c9ef1a530f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-856-34f8560aed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(868, '16', 'forum', 857, 'Eve Kosko', 1648375320, 3, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Bleeding from smear test', 'Okay. Well, since she is a very suspicious person and very convinced about her own understanding of things I probably wont be able to ask her further. But I\'ll keep in mind the process. \r\nSo uncoagulated blood belongs to regeneration phase?', '9ea3e217c447bc49a352f2eb9db33a0f', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-857-9ea3e217c4@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-857-47bd356a76@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(869, '16', 'forum', 864, 'Kora', 1648412227, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nall examples I gave are general possibilities that have in some cases been encountered. I\'m not saying that any of these do necessarily apply for your kids. The more details you know, the more you can rule out or confirm.\r\n1. The point of age, as it is similar for both children, can be of significance, and even transferred from their ancestors. What disgustful thing happened for someone in your family at that age, that involved fresh fruit or sweets? The kids don\'t need to consciously know that.\r\n2. As the phobia isn\'t only about the real thing but also about a package, I should say there is a \"new brain\" issue going on with imagery involved. I wonder: is there a story they were told, or watched on TV, where somebody was poisoned or enchanted with a gift of sweets?\r\n3. Under which circumstances does your son lose his voice after eating meat, under which not?\r\n\r\nFor 1. and 2., if no ideas show up, and it\'s important to understand, one can do a regression process or work with kinesiology to find out the answer.', '302ed4ab8c066cbf1cfd29dc24864c8a', '', '', '188.238.77.211', '', NULL, 'Kora-864-302ed4ab8c@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-862-78a4f857c8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(870, '16', 'forum', 864, 'ousaima', 1648413902, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Thanks a lot Kora , I totally understand that these are general possibilities but I was trying to analyze these possibilities with you, discussing more details  about their case compared to the possibilities :) \r\n\r\nI really appreciate your help as I need to dig more , \r\n1. How can we dig about their ancestors especially that they passed away , and the ones living has no issues at all with fruits or veggies , in this case we exclude this or there’s a way to reach that information ? \r\n2. Regarding this point no stories as far as i remember were told but Watching on tv may be  but I can’t even confirm this with them as they don’t remember anything but do how did we relate this to New brain ? Is it a devaluation or self worth issue or something related to communicating with others ? \r\n3. He loses his voice when I force him to eat it by telling him if you eat it I will give you something you like this way he’ll eat it but it’ll not be his choice to eat I think it’s like an invasion of his territory .', '1c9c566e5255a59ee5354c407f15c7bc', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-864-1c9c566e52@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-864-302ed4ab8c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(871, '16', 'forum', 866, 'Kora', 1648414059, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: food intolerance', 'Hi Eve,\r\nour materiali has all of them (:wink:)\r\nNow I\'d like to give you back the question, in which organs do you see diarrhea or nausea or stomach ache appear, and what do we know about their emotional themes? (There is a search function in both the wiki and in the book...)\r\n\r\nI\'d go about like this: \"So this food is making your body react with X. That means that X is a vulnerable part of you right? It can\'t do its job well when that food is around. What do you feel the job of X is?\" \r\nIn that way I can let them find the connection themselves. And can give some biological explanation or examples if needed.\r\nDoes that make sense?', '90cb46358b625c36bbfb89f675247e11', '', '', '188.238.77.211', '', NULL, 'Kora-866-90cb46358b@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-856-d7aaaba348@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(872, '16', 'forum', 868, 'Kora', 1648414309, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: Bleeding from smear test', 'Coagulated blood often belongs into the regeneration phase.\r\nFresh blood usually means a wound.', 'dccd475b1baf4c85a6d05a8a90b09918', '', '', '188.238.77.211', '', NULL, 'Kora-868-dccd475b1b@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-857-9ea3e217c4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(873, '16', 'forum', 864, 'Kora', 1648415364, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: food intolerance', 'Hi Eve,\r\nthing is that not every symptom has a certain meaning, but a symptom can have different mechanisms to create it. In the wiki we find differential diagnoses for other tissues that can create a similar reaction. Also the compass is a good help to differentiate tissue and brain layers (like \"the more feeling, the more new brain\")\r\nTry searching for \"nausea\" in the book, there are a couple of different organ examples coming up. Usually it gets pretty clear for the individual which of these are worth to explore.', '670706ab3fa0c682f6f3ab6656065961', '', '', '188.238.77.211', '', NULL, 'Kora-864-670706ab3f@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-856-c9ef1a530f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(874, '16', 'forum', 864, 'Kora', 1648416348, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthere are several ways to get answers \"from the field\" or from the unconscious. Like I named regression/time-line work or kinesiology. Actually, I talked a little about kinesiology in the Medulla video. Perhaps there are some practitioners or trainers here that would like to give us a taster?\r\nHowever, while you can choose to find answers for yourself with these methods, you can only use them with your kids if they are curious about it. If someone already has a strong opinion or resistance, the results will be skewed.\r\nDid you ever ask your daughter if she remembers how she started hating bananas from one day to the next?', 'c330abf6a8620bd5f9cc55b98a6e407d', '', '', '188.238.77.211', '', NULL, 'Kora-864-c330abf6a8@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-864-1c9c566e52@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(875, '16', 'forum', 864, 'ousaima', 1648443730, 11, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Thanks a lot Kora that’s really great , yea my daughter is so curious to know the reason behind this and she always try to find a way out of it , because she’s always stuck with doctors advice to eat more fruits , she wants to change this but she can’t ( this is always what she tells her doctors ) , I tried with her once to remember when she first cut on eating strawberries but I didn’t at that time have any META base , that’s why I can’t even remember her answers:) but I’m sure It’ll lead us to something significant, I really appreciate your help Kora.\r\nKinesiology part in the medulla video was also interesting but I don’t know that much about that science I guess I need to google it more to have a general idea about what it’s about , i understood from the video that it can help you find if the patient has muscle weakness that he’s not aware of reacting to some emotions , if I got it right:)', '0b58e44abedcbae90da8008696e93f83', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-864-0b58e44abe@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-864-c330abf6a8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(876, '16', 'forum', 852, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1648459394, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Good morning kora,\r\n\r\nfirst of all I would like to thank you very much for this teleseminar which contains a lot of valuable information which helped me to correct some misconceptions that i had before\r\nsecondly, kindly can you send for us some illustrative videos to explain for us how to do these kinesiology test to test muscles and also self confidence exercise to do them correctly to ourselves and our clients.\r\n\r\nagain thank you very much for your cooperation always', 'ec2b263f18336afefeeca58f543b2f2a', '', '', '196.132.15.235', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-852-ec2b263f18@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0322d155b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(877, '16', 'forum', 852, 'ousaima', 1648459524, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Hi Kora ,\r\nI have some confusion regarding some point in the video, plz if you can help me to chunk them down : )\r\n\r\n1.in heart muscle section you mentioned embryological turn , what does it mean ? \r\n\r\n2. In stress phase in heart muscle section , backlogs were mentioned but I didn’t understand why a baclog in the lungs meant a problem in the left not the right myocardium or does it mean since there are lots of fluid in the lungs blood can’t be back to the left heart chamber ? I’m a little bit confused or because if there’s a problem in left myocardium then blood can’t be pumped out to extremities and fluids or blood should be accumulated there ? I’m mixing why the left not the right and vice versa :) \r\n\r\n3. Again in regeneration , breathlessness will be because of a problem in the right myocardium since blood isn’t oxygenated enough but how did the right myocardium not the left affected the diaphram ? \r\n\r\n4. Healing peak in the heart section too means that someone could have this myocardial infarction without being that significant and without knowing he’d been through this sometimes ?? Or did i get it wrong ? Or did you mean the seizures ? And tachycardia an heartbeats ? Since this healing prak will be shorter than old brain healing peaks so they’ll probably not be noticed all the time ? \r\n\r\n5. In striated muscle section in regeneration phase hypertrophy was mentioned but can this hypertrophy happens naturally by the body without training or necessarily to be achieved by training ?', 'ab1ea00ab225c80da91f3f2ab6f01fdf', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-852-ab1ea00ab2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0322d155b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(878, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648466664, 23, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Are there such things as primary and secondary diseases?', 'Are there primary versus secondary diseases and which one should we tackle first, please?', 'c03a3e061971126e2c84ad9662daa95c', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-c03a3e0619@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(879, '16', 'forum', 875, 'Kora', 1648472926, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Right,\r\nkinesiology is a way to make contact with your unconscious via a muscular response. Usually, an answer that is true or good for you will make you stronger and something that is untrue or negative for you will make you weaker. You will calibrate and make sure of how the response feels in terms of strength before you ask a yes/no question you want to find an answer for. There are various ways of muscle testing, some of which you can practice on your own.', '2cf668084e979843050a17c218ae767b', '', '', '86.114.217.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-875-2cf668084e@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-864-0b58e44abe@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(880, '16', 'forum', 876, 'Kora', 1648475994, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Hello Basma,\r\nthere are various ways to do muscle testing, and we can explore some in our session, too!\r\nHere is a video that explains the background and two self-testing methods: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2HXS4lh6i8]\r\nWhen you do it with clients, you usually test their delta muscle (shoulder muscle), and I\'d recommend to have a training in order to make you a confident tester! Here is a more detailed explanation and demonstration with a client: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN1dctmPYqw]', 'f43f945cd25d314b8d557738907353f7', '', '', '86.114.217.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-876-f43f945cd2@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-852-ec2b263f18@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(881, '16', 'forum', 875, 'ousaima', 1648478151, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: food intolerance', 'Wow that’s so interesting , thanks million for your limitless help Kora , I’m really amazed by every single information .', '6146d43881a5afc76c8ce8bf2be3a188', '', '', '178.87.221.199', '', NULL, 'ousaima-875-6146d43881@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-875-2cf668084e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(882, '16', 'forum', 878, 'Kora', 1648484395, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Are there such things as primary and secondary diseases?', 'Hi Lucia,\r\nyes of course! As there are secondary conflicts, like when the symptoms of a process become a new stressor on another level, there are secondary dis-eases. You look at the whole pattern how to resolve it. \r\nOften we would address the most immediate symptoms first, to break the vicious cycle. That\'s where also medication might be necessary, to calm and ease. \r\nSometimes this will be enough to let the primary process heal out. \r\nBut when the primary issue hasn\'t been resolved yet, and is in recurring mode, it needs to be dealt with. By that, the cause for more secondary conflicts is taken away.', '7d56b652e4e213572d2193c4ee64e1cc', '', '', '86.114.217.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-878-7d56b652e4@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-c03a3e0619@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(883, '16', 'forum', 877, 'Kora', 1648486862, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Questions about the video \"Cerebral Medulla - Mesoderm\"?', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\n1. During the development in the womb, the heart with its innervation makes a 180° turn. This means that the dominant and non-dominant body side and their association with partner or child are also turned. Righthanded person - left heart - partner side.\r\n\r\n2. The right chamber pumps blood into the lungs, the left chamber pumps it from the lungs and into the body circuit. When the left chamber muscle is weak, blood is left in the lung circuit and the body isn\'t supplied properly.\r\n\r\n3. Check out the book on page 151/152. \r\n\r\n4. Yes, also a healing peak in the cardiac muscle can go unidentified. That depends on the weight of the conflict and on the circumstances. \r\n\r\n5. What it means is that muscle tissue grows when there is both training and supply with nutrients. Translate \"training\" with \"use\" of the muscle. While we do use muscles in the stress phase, they aren\'t supplied optimally because of the lack of \"rest and digest\", of natural rhythm.', 'ddc2b09a0192fc37affc0b56e76fb97f', '', '', '86.114.217.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-877-ddc2b09a01@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-852-ab1ea00ab2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(884, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Pr majda', 1648544323, 22, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task Lesson 10', 'Hi Dear Kora, \r\n\r\nRegarding the task \"Anchor\", I would like to share my experience with an auditive one:\r\nLast summer, I listened to relaxing music every day while sunbathing and reading my books. This music puts me back in a situation of peace and serenity. Since then, it is enough to listen to it and close your eyes to find the warmth on the skin and the state of mind of relaxation. I often listen to it now while reading or studying. The auditory anchor activates the mental images and the parasympathetic it seems to me to find the same sensation each time.\r\n\r\nBests,', 'b375feeeb6f9b9b73672983637c60616', '', '', '41.141.113.154', '', '', 'Pr majda-0-73d3641713@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(885, '16', 'forum', 884, 'Kora', 1648558545, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task Lesson 10', 'Thank you Majda for the beautiful example!\r\nWe really use anchors all the time, mostly unconsciously. But when we are aware how it works we have access to resources that we don\'t habitually use yet and can train our neurology to integrate them.', 'c697fe71b456360aafe702cc8a08e673', '', '', '176.72.23.242', '', NULL, 'Kora-884-c697fe71b4@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-0-73d3641713@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(886, '16', 'forum', 878, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648563098, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Are there such things as primary and secondary diseases?', 'Thank you, Kora,\r\n that makes sense. :-)', '6230b2c81c6be0345bdf5d9c5f32744c', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-878-6230b2c81c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-878-7d56b652e4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(887, '16', 'forum', 856, 'Eve Kosko', 1648572720, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: food intolerance', 'Okay I\'ll check in the book and the wiki. \r\nYou know what would be great? If we could observe different consultations you or also other practitioners did. Like recorded analytics. What questions you ask, how you dig deeper, what information you share and how in the end you help them. With different types of clients. Would that be possible?', '2d23fa188883169c97451b0052f2cfa6', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-856-2d23fa1888@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-bdfde98dcb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(888, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648582454, 12, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Join the WhatsApp group :-)', 'Hi everyone, a bit delayed, but we/ I thought everyone on the course or joining the weekly sessions left their detail.\r\nIf you want to join the WhatsApp group please contact me on musicalucia@hotmail.co.uk', 'c9862a03e7b25e40ad3a958ae6a0c59d', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-0-d08ed7b9fb@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(889, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Stephanie', 1648666475, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Fantastic springboard.  Thx. Stephanie', '3de31f0781f90c1ee756505da996dd3f', '', '', '67.182.140.51', '', NULL, 'Stephanie-132-3de31f0781@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-fdfe7cff3e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(890, '16', 'forum', 887, 'Kora', 1648672153, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: food intolerance', 'Hi Eve,\r\nsure we can ask who has recorded sessions that are suitable to share with our group. We want to include demonstrations in our course as well.\r\nIn principle it\'s possible to record ordinary META-Health coaching sessions with clients, however they need to agree to share them. That\'s where I encounter most problems, because it\'s very personal information.', 'f1f25359b15607682b21ec1bda684441', '', '', '109.240.227.24', '', NULL, 'Kora-887-f1f25359b1@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-856-2d23fa1888@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(891, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648738047, 23, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case studies form how to document case studies', 'Hello, I just wonder if there is a form to the case study examples we were given in for example week 7?\r\nI just started to fill in a form that is from 2017 I found here and doesn\'t reflect those examples and the ones other students have posted here in the forum.\r\n\r\n1. Is there already a form I could use or shall I just create on based on the examples?\r\na) will those case studies be good for the requirements to become a practitioner?\r\n2. do we randomly post our case studies her in the forum and hope you take a record of it or do we post them to you directly?\r\nI am sorry if someone else has asked the same questions already.\r\nMany thanks\r\nLucia', '4861e34925d74c2804119e7c3ddb9edf', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-4861e34925@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(892, '16', 'forum', 891, 'Kora', 1648738879, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies form how to document case studies', 'Hi Lucia,\r\nin lesson 5 we introduced the new submission form below the video. You also find it in \"course files\" / worksheets (in the META-Pro 2022 tab all the way down, below the link to the course forum.)\r\nYes, this case study will count for your 5 required examples.\r\nIf it feels safe to share it in the forum I\'m happy, otherwise you can email it to me. Anyhow I will review and comment it.\r\nThanks for asking!', 'eeb503c9ff73135a82eab275f2a9519d', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-891-eeb503c9ff@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-4861e34925@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(893, '16', 'forum', 891, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648745064, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case studies form how to document case studies', 'Thank you very much! I just found it in week 5 and was going to delete this message. there are so many downloads. I lost count and overview.\r\nMany thanks\r\nLucia :-)', 'c125d413f972b22d694c3abdec988061', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-891-c125d413f9@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-891-eeb503c9ff@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(894, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Hilsking', 1648838809, 32, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'Hi All / Kora\r\nI am struggling with a case and would like some direction if possible.  Details are:\r\nMan now aged 33 born (?) with cerebral palsy \r\nI have investigated Cerebral Cortex and at spasticity SBS of the muscular Innervation I have discussed this with the mother and the following was confirmed:\r\nDidnt know she was pregnant and Dr had been treating her for being overweight and proposed a diet.  - could lack of nutrients be a bigger issue?\r\nPregnancy realised at 4mths and both mother and father ok with it and no arguing only surprise and relationship was good from then on and child was born 2 weeks premature and natural birth no problems.  Relationship continued ok and and played happy families ! So the SBS of the muscle innervation does not appear to apply (?)\r\nThe Cerebral Palsy was diagnosed/confirmed at child age 18 months when mother concerned that childs progress was not in line with what was expected. \r\nNo indication of any brain/muscular issues in either maternal or paternal families and grandparent / ancestral issues not known. \r\nMan has graduated from University and was a Secondary School Teacher until recently when he lost his job and is currently having extreme self esteem and self confidence issues \r\nHe and his mother are interested in how the CP occurred before knowing how to move on.    ..... any ideas please     \r\nThanks Hilary', 'af185a9913aa3900a0fa9eaa0fe27a77', '', '', '92.28.29.251', '', NULL, 'Hilsking-0-af185a9913@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(895, '16', 'forum', 894, 'Kora', 1648850319, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'Hi Hilary,\r\nin a balanced diet, I don\'t think lack of nutrients should play a role. But if she felt hungry/starving this can have been a conflict.\r\nWhat palsy symptoms are we talking about? Were they not noticeable during the first 18 months at all? Then I\'d doubt that the conflict happened during pregnancy, as there are other possibilities to be ruled out. In this [https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cerebral-palsy/symptoms-causes/syc-20353999#|medical description], several coincidences are named that could give us cues. Do we know if any of these apply?\r\n\r\nDo you know the story of a case of Down syndrome Dr Hamer shared? Here, 2 noise conflicts caused a constellation with retardation of the brain development. The mother had worked on a building site during the first weeks of pregnancy, and the father hat a mechanical workshop with noisy machinery right at home. Desensitizing the child with ear protection during several months saw her recover the paused development.', '57454d6e01e984833b377c54848ca34d', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-894-57454d6e01@www.meta-health.net', 'Hilsking-0-af185a9913@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(896, '16', 'forum', 894, 'ousaima', 1648891119, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'Hi Kora and Hilary ,\r\nIf you plz Kora do you mean here that even Down syndrome was reversed when the mother worked on the constellation ? Or did I get wrong ? Can you plz mention the pages numbers in the book I’d like to read more about it that’s so interesting.\r\n\r\nDoes Autism also have a Meta Point of view ? \r\nThanks in advance .', 'a7d06c339727ea787f77b7be27d63fa4', '', '', '142.247.84.30', '', NULL, 'ousaima-894-a7d06c3397@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-894-57454d6e01@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(897, '16', 'forum', 896, 'Kora', 1648894100, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nI mean that the symptoms of the Down syndrome could be reversed here.\r\nThis is an article on this case in English: [https://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/genetic_theory.html|Swiss Magazine \"Zeitenschrift\" 27/2000].\r\nNot all conflicts that can happen to babies and kids are easy to find, but in general the symptoms of the condition show what the type of conflict or damage was, that may have happened to the mother or to the baby. Hearing conflicts can even happen through ultrasound exams of the womb. \r\nThen, if  we look at motoric symptoms as described for cerebral palsy, they can also remind of a brain stem constellation depending on the details, so the conflict was not necessarily about not being able to flee, but perhaps about a lack of resources and a \"chunk overwhelm\"...\r\n.', 'c323c14b6f4b91af4e976957742014b3', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-896-c323c14b6f@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-894-a7d06c3397@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(898, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 11', 'wiki page', 0, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1648906403, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'thymus tapping', 'Good evening kora,\r\nkindly can you explain to me the reason of whenever aim doing thymus tapping for myself I feel discomfort and shortness of breath and it persist for some time', '1599d6c675159c302ebb26961b288b79', '', '', '41.235.156.162', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-0-1599d6c675@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'n', 'n'),
(899, 'META-Pro 2022 - lesson 11', 'wiki page', 898, 'Kora', 1648910162, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: thymus tapping', 'Hello Basma,\r\nperhaps you have a conditioned trigger there? This sounds like a track that was established in a UDIN moment, possibly about a conflict triggering lung or heart tissue? \r\nDid someone touch you there in a conflict?', '85c8677d0848f086afa3058f6e26a366', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-898-85c8677d08@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(900, '16', 'forum', 896, 'ousaima', 1648915553, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'That’s so helpful , thanks a lot Kora.', '7e0b76f91c372859ccd96c28d1e4a601', '', '', '142.247.84.30', '', '', 'ousaima-896-ec45ae81fc@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-896-c323c14b6f@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(901, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648983514, 76, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'KCT and lower back pain combos', 'I am intrigued by kct and lower back pain appearing often together.\r\n\r\n1. Can you confirm please?\r\nI am talking about the pain below the kidneys. Lumbar region.\r\n\r\n2.I wonder if conditions such as Ankylosing Spondylitis( chronic degenerative condition with lower back pain are also commonly go together with ktc?\r\n\r\n3. The lower back pain seems to be ongoing and during stress phase although it is cerebral medulla and therefore should be appear in the regeneration phase? That\'s what\'s confusing me.', '5ebe9df1ba3824957ef173090b5cdebd', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(902, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648984548, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'God I am having so many realisation about this kidney refugee conflict. \r\nThe themes being existence& fear and survival but also ISOLATION that makes it lethal( my friend who committed suicide last year after months of isolation and fear of existence) . Interestingly he was diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis\r\nwhich is a degenerative condition that comes with severe lower back pain. He was worried about money and survival not being able to work during lockdown.\r\n\r\nI don\'t understand the connection yet.\r\nI have spoken to different ppl this week who had a kct but also experienced LBP.\r\nI am experiencing a stress- phase kct myself and have lower back pain.', 'bfccdb1cbfc0cd10b7a6bb4e6667e0cb', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-901-ea8ccc0822@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(903, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Kora', 1648987736, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Hi Lucia,\r\nback pain is usually due to a weakening and imbalance of the structure, so it can appear in chronic stress phases (like when through weakening a disc ruptures and pressure gets to the nerves going out from the spinal chord) and especially in the oedematous beginning of regeneration. Especially then this pain can be aggravated by KCT (so this is an overlap of one regeneration phase after self-devaluation plus one stress phase of abandonment) but they don\'t necessarily go together.\r\nAnkylosing Spondylitis is a chronic on-off pattern of deep self-devaluation, someone who constantly proves himself and yet never \"is enough\". Naturally, this condition is started at the imprinting stage in childhood, or is even inherited. Question is if these persons tend to isolate themselves because of this belief, thereby self-triggering KCT.\r\nYour friend who worried about survival seems to have had brain stem conflicts, but with chronic self-devaluation it\'s a dangerous combo, and suicidal means there was even a cortex constellation about losing his position and not feeling loved...\r\nWe\'ll come to the cerebral cortex soon.', '1be3bd977b9668ad30069caad68dac7e', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-901-1be3bd977b@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(904, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648991835, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Thank you for your swift answer. \r\nYou made an interesting comment about self-triggering KCT: Did you mean triggering KCT into a stress phase? I thought and in my understanding through Matrix and having explored my own KCT over the last few days, that a KCT is already imprinted within the development in and from childhood.\r\nCan a KCT be triggered as an adult for example through becoming a refugee of some sort without having a KCT developed before? \r\nI have found that the two people with a KCT (oedemas and great thirst) I spoke to this week showed signs of a KCT without knowing it. Are those even KCT then?', '8f1eae6da97269fe8694a2e6af15d06a', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-901-8f1eae6da9@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(905, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Lucia Franziska', 1648997792, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Here is my case study on the KCT and LBP combo. I wonder if I am right with things I said in points 13 and 14. The client was holding self-devaluating beliefs and conflicts that threaten her existence and don\'t allow her to move country and be free. This became clear with the beliefs uncovered in the Matrix session.\r\n\r\n2. Age: 41                                                                                                              \r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: right.                                                              \r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: female, no contraception\r\n                                         \r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. Functional, sensitivity, tissue changes, pain quality, start and timing of appearance, medical diagnosis):                                                                              \r\n- water retention in the lower abdomen, wrists, feet, and ankles, very uncomfortable, puffy eyes, and huge thirst that has been going on for a long time.                               \r\n - Shoulders and neck 6.5 always feel pressured and make her reach out to massage and touch them.                                                                                                 - Current Lower back pain on the right side of (agony) by an 8, ( more to the right of the spine and underneath the kidney area) for three days (beating herself up not feeling to show up on social media for her business.                                                                                       \r\n- her own words: \'my lower back supports my body\'            \r\n                                                  \r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):  none     \r\n                                                          \r\n7. Background/personal history :                                                                                                               \r\n- isolated by the fact that she isn\'t \'covid\'-\'vaccinated\' and therefore is not a green-pass holder in a European country with Covid-green-pass, restrictions to her freedom  - both sets of parents of her parents were refugees from another country                                                                                   \r\n- not having enough money                                                                                                   \r\n- not earning money,  financial dependency on husband    \r\n                                                   \r\n8. Connected feelings/emotions: - Fear of failing responsibility, \'beating herself up\', weighed down by responsibility.\r\n                                                                                                                     \r\n9. Connected thoughts/beliefs / values: I never had options, my own ability is limited \r\nInterpretation.\r\n\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues/brain layers and theme/s:\r\n\r\n- Kidney tubules (brain stem): Existence threatened • Abandonment (of her freedom) • Restrictive environment not suitable for thriving - Isolation at home                                                                          \r\n\r\n- Lower Back Pain: Self-devaluation (Trigger and reminder: Possible through not feeling and being an equal citizen and \'being punished\' for not complying)                \r\nAlso, through not being able to earn her own money.\r\n                                                                       \r\n11. Symptom classification and meaning (phases model):                                      \r\n- Cerebral Medulla regeneration phase - the lower back.                                                               \r\n- Brainstem KCT: stress-active phase by not having any money and not earning it (combined with weighed down feeling of responsibility and failing and her belief that she herself can\'t make any money) \r\nKCT got (re-)activated with the first lock-down.\r\n\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): - visual and auditory: not being allowed entrance into local facilities such as banks and libraries in EU country, not feeling like showing up on social media for her business, not having money, and having to ask husband for money. \r\nAlso, visual triggers when she meets other people in the village, visual memory, and self-talk about her past.\r\n\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved (if any): overlap of the brain stem and cerebral Medulla combination where her low self-worth ( belief not being able to earn her own money) increases the fear of survival and existence and therefore triggers more of the KCT.\r\n\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities (if any, also “secondary gain” by symptoms):                   \r\nHer need for the physical safety that her husband provides doesn\'t allow her self-worth to grow to be able to earn her own money.   \r\n\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:  \'I can earn my own money now and feel save and valued.\'\r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n\r\n16. Intervention method/s used: EFT and Matrix Reimprinting: Tapping in Memory: Got fired when she was 22 years old. She knew it was because of something she did but the subject was never mentioned. \r\nFeelings of shame and guilt and fear of  being without money because of losing her job, not being able to \'feed\' her own personal needs, not having any choices like buying stuff for herself = not having freedom to go out but just depending on her parent.\r\nBeing dependent on parents. \r\n\r\nBeliefs: 1. I will never be able to express myself because I don\'t have money. \r\n2. Money is my limitation. \r\n3. I can\'t trust my ability to make money. Cleared all emotions and beliefs through tapping. Reimprinted new image with feeling safe and valued and free. \r\n                                                                                                          \r\nHer back pain went from 8 to 0 in one session.', 'df060454b42e831d770fdc136ee6f736', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-901-907307c61d@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(906, '16', 'forum', 904, 'Kora', 1649005785, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Yes, as this is a biological reaction you don\'t need to be aware of a conflict to experience it. That\'s what differentiates the term \"neuroception\" from \"perception\". And it can be triggered anytime for the first time. \r\nAlthough the soil is usually prepared in childhood, we can have UDIN moments all throughout our lives. But often it\'s not UDIN moments (original trauma) we have every day, but we trigger the same emotions and reactions from a conflict that was imprinted earlier and that sensitized us. By self-triggering I mean we can do it by our thoughts, beliefs and behaviour, as one can feel isolated even when there are loving people around, if we shut them out.', '0a229a97524331d9c68754d0852d936d', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-904-0a229a9752@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-901-8f1eae6da9@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(907, '16', 'forum', 905, 'Kora', 1649007082, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Hey Lucia, this is an excellent case study! \r\n\r\nI only wonder if I can follow point 16 correctly: \"fear of not being without money\"= fear of having money? \"and having freedom and loss of choice\" = having lost the freedom to choose?\r\n\r\nConflicting priorities: Is there any way to enable her self-worth to grow even while she is dependent on her husband? Or has that dependence become irrelevant now?', '729b2b441108b5e98c73446048e5eb56', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-905-729b2b4411@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-901-907307c61d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(908, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649012716, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Hi Kora, thank you for your response.\r\nI did edit it. This reply was much longer originally.', 'de92c0e33390a00cf29943c2d562a849', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-901-9d237f2879@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(909, '16', 'forum', 894, 'Hilsking', 1649084007, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Cerebral Palsy (cp)', 'thank you Kora much appreciated', 'b744f1e01f8f0a003aa8d53c7fa0f94a', '', '', '92.28.29.251', '', NULL, 'Hilsking-894-b744f1e01f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-894-57454d6e01@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(910, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1649086645, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Frozen shoulder', 'What do you think this might indicate for a theme/pattern, and do you have an idea how to help?\r\n\r\nAs far as I researched information regarding Frozen shoulder in the Wiki, Frozen Shoulder is an old brain theme, meaning we have a plus minus reaction. A frozen Shoulder is a muscle hardening or a tissue reinforcement and appears in prolonged or recurring stress phases.\r\n\r\n Biological Meaning:\r\nThe meaning lies in the protective stress phase with functional gain of the myofibroblasts, and in the distribution of sensory and motoric information.\r\n(Even though I don’t understand that. How can a frozen shoulder gain function and enhance the sensory and motoric?!?)\r\n\r\nWhen I look under muscles, there is an illustration which shares the information that the shoulder stands for community and responsibility.\r\n\r\nI think the sidedness of the frozen shoulder would be very important, so I’d first find out if the client is left or right handed. \r\nRight: same eye level, left: Hierarchy \r\n\r\nI would try to find answers to following questions:  \r\nWhen did the pain of the frozen shoulder started? \r\nWhat happened around that time?\r\nDoes the client try to hold something away from him or tries to keep holding on to something?\r\n\r\nSee where emotions pop up, ask further and then work towards letting go in any case. The person is invited to let go of the thought that he needs to control the situation or people and maybe he want\'s learn to embrace whatever is coming. \r\n\r\nThat’s my take on it :-)', 'def739f0d9bc218b10612cf91ac95658', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-def739f0d9@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(911, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1649087546, 39, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Help!', 'Hey Kora!  \r\n\r\nI’d like to investigate further around my lower back pain, but I don’t know where exactly I have to dig deeper. I feel pain right in my lumbar spine, but does the pain come from 	\r\n* Periosteum sensitivity (CC -/+): Unjust contact/separation, indignation\r\n* Cartilage (CM -/+): Self-worth concerning connection and friction\r\n* Ligaments (CM -/+): Self-worth concerning guidance, stability and elasticity\r\n* Tendons (CM -/+): Self-worth concerning (muscular) performance\r\n* Muscle (CM -/+): Self-worth concerning (muscular) performance\r\n* Muscle Fascia (CB & MB +/-): Muscular protection, integrity\r\n* Motoric Innervation (CC -/+): Ability to act/react\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nHow can I distinguish?', '0e77c806821c240bc2c63586f1b0d5f7', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-0e77c80682@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(912, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1649096246, 27, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task 11', 'Hi Kora , \r\nFrozen shoulder decoding \r\nMedically as I googled what tissues are involved in. Frozen shoulder condition , the connective tissue as well as the ligaments were involved in such a case if diagnosis was right ! \r\nHere pops a question to my mind that sometimes clients are medically misdiagnosed so we just try to investigate the pain more with the client and in this case i’ll try to exclude other conditions using the answers the client provide , of course from clients answers we can have some clues where the conflict is ( old brain or New brain ) \r\n\r\nIf we only look at the diagnosis we can immediately refer to a medulla conflict ( new brain theme ) , self devaluation regarding performance , mobility or stability , located in the shoulder may mean that it’s a self worth issue regarding responsibility or a self worth issue that’s related to communication and since the client is left handed and the pain is in the left shoulder that confirms that the conflict is at the same eye level either with the partner ( if she considers him as a partner ) or anyone that she considers as a partner or her friends or colleagues .\r\n\r\nI’ll ask her to describe her pain in her own words because this can unveal most of the conflict to me , and i’ll try to know if this is a chronic issue by asking her if it’s recurring, or if the pain is interrupted or if it ever happened before ? \r\n\r\nBiological meaning here will not be in the stress phase since it’s a medulla conflict , it’ll appear as functional and tissue reinforcement after completed regeneration \r\n\r\nSymptoms of a frozen shoulder shows that this comes after recurrent decreased function , so this may indicate that this frozen shoulder with this very restricted movement is a double minus action in regeneration phase A ( stiff , thickened and inflamed tissue) , and here that reminds mr to investigate the feelings of the client to know if there’s any KCT syndrome involved here .\r\n\r\nI’ll investigate the emotions of the client and if there are  any conflicting values as well as the thoughts and beliefs because this will help us as practitioners to find a way to help and try to reverse these with the client approval.\r\n\r\nI can help the client by doing a self confidence excercise and building some anchors with her as all we need her is to build more self confidence and we’ll try to reverse the connected beliefs and the conflicting values if there were any ! \r\n\r\nIf the medical diagnoses wasn’t going with what the client described i’ll do more investigations on the muscles and bones involved in the shoulder , but in all the ways it’ll indicate a new brain theme , we’ll try to find if it’s a secondary conflict and help to find the primary one later on . \r\n\r\nPlz correct me here Kora , I’d love to hear from you if there are any missing points or mistakes in the decoding process', '2b7b4989f153e77a6504cc32924f7618', '', '', '142.247.84.30', '', '', 'ousaima-0-7b88e2b549@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(913, '16', 'forum', 912, 'ousaima', 1649096618, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task 11', 'I forgot to mention here that we’ll do some organ breathing also and we’ll try to reach out the Meta Meaning with the client and we’ll  recommend integration of this meaning in the client’s daily challenges!', '7028b1a4573d762d88e22a4d6630fdd7', '', '', '142.247.84.30', '', NULL, 'ousaima-912-7028b1a457@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-7b88e2b549@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(914, '16', 'forum', 911, 'Kora', 1649102293, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Help!', 'Hey Eve,\r\n((Musculoskeletal - Periosteum (Visceral Fascia)|Periosteum)) will usually not apply unless you had a physical trauma or regeneration after a broken bone.That is a sharp pain (like being kicked in the shin). ((Nervous - Motoric Innervation|Motoric innervation)) doesn\'t apply either, as long as you don\'t feel weakness or paralysis (without pain).\r\nThe whole apparatus ((Musculoskeletal - Skeletal Muscles|muscles)) - ((Musculoskeletal - Connective Tissue|ligaments)) - ((Musculoskeletal - Muscle Fascia|fascia)) and spinal ((Nervous - Motoric Innervation|nerves)) is working together, so you basically find out what kind of self-devaluation or protectiveness pattern applies to you, and what typical triggers are.\r\nYou might ask questions like \r\n*what\'s really important for me but doesn\'t work well, about my partner/child?, \r\n*what do I tell myself why that is, and what does it have to do with myself?, \r\n*what situations activate self-talk and worrying?\r\n*what makes me feel isolated?\r\n*where do I react protective and what does that do to me?\r\nThen you take the God-position or ask your angel what can change this.\r\nThen you get creative about how to do and keep doing it.', '004c0d7cb23e466c30ac26102dfe15d3', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-911-004c0d7cb2@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-0e77c80682@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(915, '16', 'forum', 910, 'Kora', 1649102916, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Frozen shoulder', 'Great Eve, check out [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?threadId=912|Ousaima\'s thoughts here] as well!', '363847c3413758fe597dafef0e18d835', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-910-363847c341@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-def739f0d9@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(916, '16', 'forum', 912, 'Kora', 1649102986, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task 11', 'Great Ousaima, please check out [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=16&comments_parentId=910&threadId=915&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc#threadId=915|Eve\'s thoughts here] as well!', 'c1640df87bc45c437e5b3ec3f749acf6', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-912-c1640df87b@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-7b88e2b549@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(917, '16', 'forum', 910, 'ousaima', 1649121716, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Frozen shoulder', 'Hi Kora, Hi Eve, \r\nHere Eve I wonder why did you consider it as an old brain theme , it can be an old brain theme if we assumed that periosteum is involved here and we can confirm this by further investigation with the client if she feels attacked or something , this makes it an old brain conflict then . This is what I think , do you agree? \r\n   I Agree with the questions to be asked this will lead us to lots of things :) \r\nThanks for sharing this Eve , it’s so beneficial to share thoughts , it brings a wider vision to all:)', '4fdd9d52d59af27d063c7c10595886f9', '', '', '142.247.84.30', '', NULL, 'ousaima-910-4fdd9d52d5@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-def739f0d9@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(918, '16', 'forum', 910, 'verity', 1649176437, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Frozen shoulder', 'Hi!\r\nI think I had similar findings to the other ladies looked at connective tissue, fascia  and tendons as I think these would be the tissues involved?  Perhaps the joint capsules too, but not sure if this would be cartilage..... It appears that a frozen shoulder usually involves the front side so we are looking at embracing, holding and control? \r\nIt would depend on what side is effected to determine involvement...\r\nTo me, i see the main themes expressed with this injury are self devaluation, self doubt , overload - I am not enough, I am not strong enough...  \r\nCould this be a theme of the cerebral medulla new brain  - cartilage, ligament and muscle tissue, but also have old brain cerebellum involvement with the muscle fascia and joint capsules?\r\n\r\nxx', 'd28974fc7890c87f4de72892d273ad96', '', '', '92.16.41.224', '', NULL, 'verity-910-d28974fc78@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-def739f0d9@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(919, '16', 'forum', 918, 'Kora', 1649190322, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Frozen shoulder', 'Hi Verity,\r\nyes we are looking at the specific symptoms in each case and also possible combination between protection and self-devaluation.', '9fee25436a4aaca63928475d28f9792a', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-918-9fee25436a@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-910-d28974fc78@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(920, '16', 'forum', 905, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649319085, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Hi Kora, \r\nI did rewrite point 16. It wasn\'t very clear. \r\nI swear I am experiencing this kidney-CT syndrome in the regeneration phase now.\r\nReal bad lower back pain and before stiffness in stress pH. \r\n1.What are the kct symptoms in the stress phase, please? I was extremely stressed and had kidney pain that felt like pressure.\r\nI can\'t find symptoms for the kct though apart from the water retention.\r\nCould you point out where to find them or what they are, please? Maybe water retention, thirst is all there is. And the psychological ones. : I need, I need, I need....etc\r\n2. How can one repair a generational kct please?\r\nMy clients history shows that it is in her family from at least1-2 generations. In mine too. Many thanks.', '2a799a5739ee4c9ecc2395caef812df6', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-905-986c5fe7c9@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-905-729b2b4411@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(921, '16', 'forum', 911, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649323809, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Help!', 'Hi Kora,\r\nWould you ask the same question with a client who has neck and shoulder pain ?\r\nOr even a frozen shoulder( probably not the same?)\r\nThank you.', 'b2ba65412b06bb23a475bf00fec8ee28', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-911-2a36d45626@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-911-004c0d7cb2@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(922, '16', 'forum', 901, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649331027, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Hi Kora,\r\nMany thanks. :-)', 'a2459398355c3376eb90b24fd0ebb289', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-901-3a1367b2af@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-5ebe9df1ba@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(923, '16', 'forum', 911, 'Kora', 1649344232, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Help!', 'For neck pain I\'d ask about injustice (new brain theme), and if it\'s connected to much tightness, I\'d ask about the need to protect your head and neck from attacks from behind (old brain theme). \r\nFor shoulders, I\'d ask about your role and feeling responsible, or trying to hold on to partner or child. Otherwise quite similar', '1d97cc81485485095ff02ec2154d810e', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-911-1d97cc8148@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-911-2a36d45626@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(924, '16', 'forum', 905, 'Kora', 1649346720, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', '1. ((Urinary - Kidneys - Collecting Tubules|KCT)) are about water retention in THEIR stress phase which is the feeling of abandonment or existential threat.\r\nClick the link under \"KCT\" to find more info.\r\nWhat you experience is the \"KCT syndrome\" where you have a resolved ((Musculoskeletal - System Overview|self-devaluation issue)) in repair phase, aggravated by KCT in the stress phase.\r\n2.One can use timeline / regression /matrix therapy to access the transgenerational conflict, or you could use systemic therapy ([https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/family-constellations|family constellations]) to heal the systemic pattern, Otherwise, you CAN break and heal the pattern for yourself, being aware that it\'s not your own conflict originally. There are many approaches that address \"foreign origins\" in different ways, from [https://hooponoponomiracle.com/ho-oponopono-technique/|Ho\'oponopono] to [https://tatlife.com/|TAT] to [https://www.faim.org/logosynthesis-a-system-for-physical-and-emotional-healing|Logosynthesis].', 'ca645e1857b2aa09c6d357a86271c7de', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-905-ca645e1857@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-905-986c5fe7c9@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(925, '16', 'forum', 905, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649369158, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: KCT and lower back pain combos', 'Thank you. I really appreciate it and will practice and pass this on in my work with clients', 'a46b69228513f2c8ad09a5b13248f246', '', '', '79.69.13.155', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-905-a46b692285@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-905-ca645e1857@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(926, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1649415903, 120, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Idiolectics', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI remember one of the sessions you mentioned ( ideology) or something like but I’m not sure this is exactly the word , but it was about words that we say usually and reflect something in the body or can give a clue to something , like “it broke my heart, that’s all on my shoulders, This breaks my back “ and things like that \r\nCan you plz share , and plz correct the word for me , was it ideology , or ideolytics or what :)', 'e73ba9bc55369005aa1930b76e01ba5d', '', '', '95.219.226.188', '', '', 'ousaima-0-882ed3c3ab@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(927, '16', 'forum', 926, 'Kora', 1649421220, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'The term \"idiolectic\" means the individual use of language. The term was used by Dr A D Jonas, a psychosomatic doctor who found that one\'s own words and pictures express what happens in one\'s body, and give cues on the kind of conflicts behind and hence, how to resolve them. We use this a lot in META-Health. Find a presentation [https://www.positum.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/winkler_-_idiolectics_-_using_the_individual_speech_of_the_client.pdf|here].', 'd71e2b6f54ff581f97d303947ea7da4d', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', '', 'Kora-926-fb95878c6e@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-882ed3c3ab@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(928, '16', 'forum', 926, 'ousaima', 1649446751, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'Thanks a lot Kora that’s really helpful', 'fa8812bada0188badd30e744e9e94c0a', '', '', '95.219.226.188', '', NULL, 'ousaima-926-fa8812bada@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-926-fb95878c6e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(929, '16', 'forum', 926, 'Eve Kosko', 1649495474, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'This is so cool!\r\nDo you have this presentation also in german? Maybe?', 'bdc62d11d0ecd54a3e8c7077c4483319', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-926-bdc62d11d0@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-926-fb95878c6e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(930, '16', 'forum', 926, 'Kora', 1649501544, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'No but I have a book by A D Jonas. You find quite a lot on the internet, search \"Idiolektik\". Here\'s one [https://idiolektik.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/das-herz-auf-der-zunge-Winkler-Wege-2011.pdf|pdf]', '3d4205839f496118e03c6371a6de61c6', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-926-3d4205839f@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-926-bdc62d11d0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(931, '16', 'forum', 926, 'ousaima', 1649506187, 15, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'Hi Kora, \r\nDo you have it in english :)', '682bac440dbeb393c6120c6983d32a75', '', '', '95.219.226.188', '', NULL, 'ousaima-926-682bac440d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-926-3d4205839f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(932, '16', 'forum', 931, 'Kora', 1649516784, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'I\'ve only searched the internet for them. Then you can actually use [https://translate.google.com/|google translate], the \"documents\" tab ((:wink:)\r\nI think what we can do is an exercise with idiolectics...', '8bb3883708f49d437d6d186a3c3b7cb0', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-931-8bb3883708@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-926-682bac440d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(933, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649531092, 88, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'Hi everyone,\r\nWe had and still have an interesting discussion in our What\'s app group about the article about Dr Hamer\'s findings on down syndrome) here:\r\nhttps://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/i_genetic_theory.html\r\n(link might not work here)\r\nThank you Kora for sharing! It\'s mind-blowing!\r\nI also came across this video of a 13-year-old boy who has a severe case of neurofibromatosis.\r\nUnfortunately, although I tried to export the WhatsApp chat and paste it here, it didn\'t work.\r\nMaybe someone else here or Kora wants \'to add their mustard\', uh, give their opinion on what the conflict might be:\r\n\r\nhttps://youtu.be/AJFwRxIoUsM', '2a685a6dcea2fefdb767cf07b3a646b9', '', '', '78.151.50.176', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-0-dcf0362e9d@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(934, '16', 'forum', 933, 'ousaima', 1649536538, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'Hi Lucia , Hi Kora, \r\nI can help to post our WhatsApp discussion regarding this case here , so everyone can benefit and Kora if you plz correct our discussion if there were any wrong guesses and plz your  review helps to broaden our vision towards this :) \r\nThanks all :)', '52f9185052ed64330f3264cdd9862880', '', '', '95.185.74.52', '', '', 'ousaima-933-675a3aca17@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-dcf0362e9d@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(935, '16', 'forum', 933, 'ousaima', 1649551721, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'Hi kora and everyone,\r\nHere\'s our WhatsApp discussion regarding the video Lucia shared about neurofibromatosis, sorry it\'s too long I tried to remove most of unnecessary messages but still it was so long ,plz Kora have look at the attached file ,and plz give us your review to this case .', '62813f2b80faaf97de90f9fa449d9092', '', '', '95.219.226.188', '', NULL, 'ousaima-933-62813f2b80@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-0-dcf0362e9d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(936, '16', 'forum', 931, 'ousaima', 1649552872, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'That’s really helpful thanks a lot Kora :)', '09c460dff0c7c0f7a36ac1edfdea20d1', '', '', '95.219.226.188', '', NULL, 'ousaima-931-09c460dff0@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-931-8bb3883708@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(937, '16', 'forum', 933, 'Lucia Franziska', 1649595008, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'Well done Ousaima for posting just the discussion in a clear format.\r\nWhat an enjoyable talk.\r\nWalaa said : (09/04/2022, 2:31:10 PM] Walaa: \'This tumor is a genetic defect in cell division and proliferation control \r\nAnd as the control is absent it grows forming tumors non stop\r\nWhat made him do so.\'\r\n\r\nMy question is what makes the cell devision uncontrollable?\r\nFrom a meta physical standpoint. \r\nHaving lost control over something?', '2afc5bd2d05e000165994f1878e55031', '', '', '78.151.50.176', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-933-752c6f2f27@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-933-62813f2b80@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(938, '16', 'forum', 933, 'ousaima', 1649597301, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'You’re welcomed Lucia , plz if you can also brief walaa’s Audio note it’ll be also beneficial , but I couldn’t do all , it was so hard to manage the whole conversation , I did my best to make it brief , if I missed any important thing plz don’t hesitate to mention :)', 'a8cd948a9887db0792f90bc2ac4efef3', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', NULL, 'ousaima-933-a8cd948a98@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-933-752c6f2f27@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(939, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1649605114, 35, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Adrenal cortex ! ', 'Hi Kora, \r\nI found it so hard to understand lots of what was said in the videos of adrenal cortex and hypothyroidism, \r\nThe voice isn’t clear especially the voice of the clients , I could understand your voice and your answers were more clear ! Not that clear but it was just fine! \r\nClients explanations we’re not as clear , I couldn’t understand the details for each case unfortunately, I heard it more than once but still the same:) \r\nI hope we can review it again next session if we hsve time !', 'dac6f6ba102d82aab54ba4c7d76346fd', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', NULL, 'ousaima-0-dac6f6ba10@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(940, '16', 'forum', 933, 'Kora', 1649613255, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Neurofibromatosis and the findings of Dr Hamer on Down syndrome', 'Hi all,\r\nyes that is a great discussion.\r\nWhat I see in the video are constantly activated growth factors (i.e. tissue-plus, proliferation) in the face of the boy. It seems that what is growing is rather ((Integumentary - Skin Overview|skin)) and subcutaneous tissue than ((Musculoskeletal - Bones|bone)). It seems to have started on the left side according to photos in the video.\r\nAs a genetic condition, the original trauma or damage happened before birth, it may have been a physical or psychological trauma to the mother during the time the respective genetic blueprint was built. From the looks, we\'d hypothesize that a ((Integumentary - Skin - Dermis (Leather Skin)|defilement)) trauma happened and that the conflict (and plus-reaction) is constanty active. Sure, when kids call him a monster, or when he sees himself looking very different, this would trigger the conflict over and over again. Even KCT can be involved depending on the degree of swelling (not proliferation) in the tissue.\r\nWorking with the mother and with him would aim at letting them feel protected and loved, in order to end the conflict and thereby epigenetically stop further proliferation, and imprinting the healed blueprint for his face to give the cells the direction in which to work.\r\nIt\'s important to deal with emotions of guilt, shame and anger in the family because they make the issue stickier. There might be factors involved that this condition makes sense in their history, like a big underlying fear that is acted out and thereby released?.\r\nThe superior goal is for him to have life quality.\r\nThat video really wrenched my heart...', 'd430432446305fd598af591a47027d04', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-933-d430432446@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-933-62813f2b80@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(941, '16', 'forum', 939, 'Kora', 1649613807, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Adrenal cortex ! ', 'Sorry for that, I tried to find examples for analysis & coaching sessions that can be shared, as Eve had asked for such. When I relistened to these I found the sound to be not good but ok to understand.\r\nIf you have specific times where you can\'t understand what is said, we can try to listen and clarify.', 'b3a1c553e81c1cc8d3a257eb09eb42b2', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-939-b3a1c553e8@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-dac6f6ba10@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(942, '16', 'forum', 939, 'ousaima', 1649615524, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Adrenal cortex ! ', 'Thanks Kora , yea it was at some specific times that the sound wasn’t totally clear , not all the video , I’ll double check and let you know ! I was trying to anticipate from your answers what the clients really said because I found my mind freezing at some dialogue sections :) \r\nNo worries , it’s a great idea to share cases .\r\nThanks a lot', '4ff14121cce195030b6fbf64da82ab09', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', NULL, 'ousaima-939-4ff14121cc@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-939-b3a1c553e8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(943, '16', 'forum', 931, 'Pr majda', 1649659991, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'Hi Kora, \r\n\r\nInteresting, thank you for sharing.\r\n\r\nIs it similar to the map of the world in neurolinguistic programming? and how a person can filter information received according to their own perception and therefore communicate in their own way. It totally makes a sense.\r\n\r\nBests,', '219cce29c1b96fa1c520d4ed318453a3', '', '', '196.74.120.16', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-931-219cce29c1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-931-8bb3883708@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(944, '16', 'forum', 943, 'Kora', 1649661675, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'Hi Majda,\r\nyes it has the same base which is how our brain encodes our sensations and how we can access that through communication!', '89b3800c5d1828f3470d0ce1ad382509', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-943-89b3800c5d@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-931-219cce29c1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(945, 'META-Pro 2022 - demonstrations', 'wiki page', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1649700318, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Brilliant!', 'Those were brilliant!! \r\nSo helpful to actually SEE and OBSERVE how this goes! \r\nThank you!\r\nFell free to give us much more of those to watch ;-)', 'c306893cb48ab109e4101e76bc8d4c57', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-c306893cb4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'n', 'n'),
(946, '16', 'forum', 939, 'verity', 1649702801, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Coaching Demos', 'Hi Kora,\r\nI just have to say that the coaching demos were incredible for me, I found so much value in them and could definitely relate to a number of Bens issues. When he spoke about self righteousness, a huge big light bulb went off for me... well at first I cringed a bit because its a difficult thing to admit to :) ... I have been told in the past by friends and family that I was very self righteous. I am becoming a lot more aware of it now when the urge arises from my belly but Ive also discovered, when I was willing to really look at it, that it is also a defence mechanism for me. Living with a lot of fear and anxiety, I felt that I had to be right to feel safe otherwise I could not make sense of my world and that if I was wrong I would not be valuable or useful. \r\nIf someone had an opinion that differed from mine, I found it very hard to see things from their perspective I had to control what the people around me thought and believed otherwise I would feel unrooted and anxious. This has also been associated with a feeling of \'hyper vigilance\' and the need for everyone to feel safe and comfortable but only on my terms. Like Ben, I have more awareness now, but Im not totally cured from being a self righteous pain in the butt .. :) The more I find out who I am, the more I can allow others to be who they want to be ... so thank you so much, it gave me a lot of food for thought and highlighted some things I really need to discover...\r\n\r\nso grateful! xx Verity', 'c0da6be3badf540e133876d56cbd7866', '', '', '92.16.41.224', '', NULL, 'verity-939-c0da6be3ba@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-dac6f6ba10@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(947, '16', 'forum', 946, 'Kora', 1649707661, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Coaching Demos', 'Thank you for sharing Verity, you and Ben are definitely not alone on that journey! \r\nFinding out and living who we really are is the big purpose for all of us right?', 'b30ad87d7e3244fddf53357d65a848ef', '', '', '46.132.31.181', '', NULL, 'Kora-946-b30ad87d7e@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-939-c0da6be3ba@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(948, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1649793497, 136, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Review the [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-index.php?page=META-Pro+2022+-+demonstrations|demo with Ben] again: \r\n1. What do we learn about his conflicts? \r\n2. Old brain or new brain theme/s? \r\n3. Do we learn where he is in the process according to the phases model? \r\n4. What points in the [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2214|documentation form] could we fill in? \r\n5. What do you think he needs for a resolution or a next step? \r\n\r\nLet\'s discuss the points here!', 'd43b78c2ea4746efbc7837c374457b16', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-d43b78c2ea@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(949, '16', 'forum', 926, 'Eve Kosko', 1649860218, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Question about \"Idiolectic\"', 'Thank you so much!!!', '985ebc2df74b3a5f7b4fe7d44c391448', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-926-985ebc2df7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-926-3d4205839f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(950, '16', 'forum', 948, 'ousaima', 1649884635, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Hi kora ,\r\nI watched BEN\'S case again but at the minute 22:18 to 22:35 I didn\'t understand his words ,can you plz clarify what he said, I understood he realized something but the voice wasn\'t clear for me :)he said a childish theme but what was that theme?\r\n\r\nMy second question is when you asked him where do you feel more empowerment in your body I heard gut and second chakra and another thing that ends with N ,YAN or something can you plz confirm what I heard ,and he mentioned butterflies but also the sound wasn\'t clear I couldn\'t relate the butterflies because then he mentioned it\'s related to a UDIN moment .I\'m not sure about this part it wasn\'t clear ,plz help :)', 'fb93e0a52975dbee30a0c1ca05cadaec', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', NULL, 'ousaima-948-fb93e0a529@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-d43b78c2ea@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(951, '16', 'forum', 948, 'ousaima', 1649891755, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Hi kora ,\r\nThese are the answers foe Ben\'s case:\r\n\r\n1.There was more than one unresolved conflict in his case:\r\n    -old brain conflict /abandonment from parents and from his sister as well since childhood /brain stem KCT syndrome.\r\n    -NEW brain theme/cerebral medulla /devaluation conflict that was secondary in his case and came after he couldn\'t solve something at childhood (couldn\'t stop fighting with his sister /couldn\'t make his aunt happy with his actions )here came his devaluation conflict after this failure ( I\'m not good enough and have to prove that I can do it and I\'m right and I have to persuade others ) this chased him ever longer in his life.( self righteous),also that established a belief that he can\'t do anything now because it\'s too late /that brings more devaluation\r\n    -not following his heart make a living but following a more practical way to reach financial security which I believe was based on another devaluation conflict that was established when he was young when his sister was raised by the rich aunt and that appeared when he said she had a better chance (this comparison made him feel less worthy and he was stuck with the financial security issue later on that made him feel devaluated and made him choose the other path not following his heart to prove to himself that he can do that )/cerebral medulla/adrenal cortex /new brain theme/theme is orientation and intuition \r\n\r\n2. included in the first point :)\r\n\r\n3.I think he\'s in regeneration phase A ( double minus)more fatigue ,and continuous drop in cortisol was because of  re triggered stressors (bad thoughts )and the more fatigue was also a second stress trigger prolonging his regeneration phase with no on and off but increase uninterrupted drop in cortisol levels.\r\nI\'m not sure if he was still feeling abandoned because KCT was definitely there at childhood but I don\'t know if he was still under that which may also prolong his regeneration\r\n\r\n4.points that can fill in documentation form are:\r\nbeginning from point number 5 in the form\r\n  \r\n5.__description of symptoms:__\r\nfatigue and low levels of cortisol\r\n\r\n 6. __Medication and treatments__: supplements \r\n \r\n7. __Background/personal history__ \r\na.His UDIN moment with his aunt \r\n     b.Abandonment of parents and isolation from sister\r\n     c.His sister having a better chance with his rich aunt\r\n\r\n8.  __Connected feelings / emotions:__\r\n-Feels he has to set up goals and pushes himself to do that but at the same time struggles with his health feeling  he\'s wasting lots of time.\r\n    - Feels he can\'t do lots of things because of his fatigue \r\n\r\n9. __Connected thoughts / beliefs / values: __\r\n-Believes it\'s too late for him to achieve his goals because he thinks he\'s too old.\r\n     -Believes that he\'s always right and has to persuade everyone .\r\n     -Believes that he always have to improve himself.\r\n     -Believes he\'s not in his true path .\r\n\r\n10.__concerned organ tissues__ are mentioned above.\r\n\r\n11. __Symptom classification__ (phases model, autonomic states): mentioned in number three above \r\n\r\n12. __Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): __ not noticed \r\n13. __Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour): __ not noticed \r\n14. __Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):__  not noticed \r\n\r\n\r\n15.__Meta meaning:__\r\n     it was found after organ breathing \r\n(I\'m empowered because I addressed the right path which always mean empowerment)\r\n\r\n16. __Intervention method/s used: __Organ breathing .\r\n\r\n17.  __Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:__\r\na. Body & autonomic level: relax and do that with joy even if you experience more fatigue in regeneration just enjoy that you fatigue let you relax on your sofa and enjoy that relaxing and stop pushing yourself do it with joy.\r\n        b. Environmental / social level:  ??\r\n        c. Emotional / soul level: Tapping to reimprint the bad moments and renegotiate with his UDIN moment as he\'s no more child with no explanations, now he has all the resources to do that\r\n        d. Mental / spiritual level: meditation', '41db924ca6413c81bf0919f83888ea74', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', '', 'ousaima-948-8b495c8bb1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-d43b78c2ea@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(952, '16', 'forum', 948, 'Kora', 1649950037, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthe childish theme is self-righteousness and persuading everybody else. We could think of a \"megalomaniac\" behaviour here that could physically show in skull/neck or voice symptoms, based on  self-devaluation conflicts in both hemisperes, but this would need to be confirmed by him.\r\nRegarding empowerment he is talking about [https://taiji-forum.com/glossary/dantian/|dantian/ dan tien], that term comes from Chinese medicine and represents an energy centre. He feels the energy rise between the second (sacrum) chacra and dan tien, which I\'d situate in the lower abdomen. In UDIN moments he used to feel butterflies in that region which was a very disempowering experience for him. I needed to make sure of that in our conversation because I didn\'t know about the butterflies, but then this is idiolectics too.', 'cb22fa838253aed68abc0cc2cb7dc139', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-948-cb22fa8382@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-948-fb93e0a529@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(953, '16', 'forum', 948, 'Kora', 1649951575, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Very nice Ousaima,\r\nI edited your post to insert the items of the documentation form for clarity. \r\nI wonder if there are some points someone wants to add or discuss? (:wink:)', '504b7fd456aa663a1b3e65440f409ec0', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-948-504b7fd456@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-948-8b495c8bb1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(954, '16', 'forum', 948, 'ousaima', 1649960380, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Thanks a lot Kora , Usually my husband handles this organizing but as I did it late at night he was sleeping :) I’m so bad in typing and organizing my reply,  ‘I can’t do that perfectly “ \r\nTyping devaluation conflict :) Thanks for your help , totally appreciated.', '0db5b4759eeb48c4934bb4a38579967a', '', '', '142.247.216.213', '', NULL, 'ousaima-948-0db5b4759e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-948-504b7fd456@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(955, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1650204133, 34, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Hair pulling ', 'Hi Kora , \r\n1. If you plz I have a question , if we have a client with behavioral symptoms , like pulling hair without  recognizing through the day ! \r\nIs this something that META can decode ? From which point should we begin decoding ! Since hair doesn’t fall by itself, but by unconsciously pulling it ! \r\nPlz Help . \r\n2. My second question is : \r\nIf we find a devaluation conflict in any case ,since it comes mostly as a secondary conflict , should we always check for something that happened in childhood like in Ben’s case and resolve that original conflict? Because sometimes people don’t even remember what happened in the past , in this case shall we just work on the ongoing conflict ?', '851824d576fbccc86986080c0039fb7c', '', '', '149.109.107.164', '', '', 'ousaima-0-6b4a9c9e16@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(956, '16', 'forum', 955, 'Kora', 1650221968, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Question ', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\n1. Compulsions like hair-pulling are (or have been) a strategy to deal with stress. It can be a cortex constellation of \"aggression against self\" (if it\'s actually damaging the person\'s body), or it could have to do with helping oneself to feeling touched, i.e. a response to an unwanted separation or loss of touch.\r\n2. Self-devaluations are usually ongoing beliefs about ourselves, so it\'s possible to work with them in the \"here and now\", but often the underlying issue will show up during the work, and it\'s a value system. If the client can\'t consciously remember its origin it doesn\'t matter because the cells and soul can make the connection. The sensation and emotion attached is key. Remember Eve\'s case of the belief she needs to care for her weight and looks? We believe that this value system was installed where it made total sense so we can accept that and then teaching the client to differentiate the present self from that situation. Again, feeling is key here and persistence needs to be involved.\r\nDoes that make sense?', 'b39c400ecacd615217aa234e419b7971', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-955-b39c400eca@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-6b4a9c9e16@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(957, '16', 'forum', 955, 'ousaima', 1650227735, 9, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Question ', 'Thanks Kora , \r\nThat’s really interesting ! Even nail biting has the same origin( cortex) ? how do we relate it to cortex ? Can you help plz , is there any clue to relate it ? Or it’s a general rule for compulsions ?\r\n\r\n2. Feeling here you mean the beliefs that come with the conflict ? Because feelings in devaluation are always nearly the same ( I can’t do that, I can’t …) ، so here we work on his belief and on what he feels he can’t do and we try to reverse this ! Right ? \r\nLike in EVe’s case it was a belief that lead us to the original conflict and the persistence as you mentioned , did I get it right ?', 'f665cf495e0a359654ffd8e7d9a7f048', '', '', '149.109.107.164', '', NULL, 'ousaima-955-f665cf495e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-955-b39c400eca@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(958, '16', 'forum', 948, 'Kora', 1650291564, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Hi all,\r\n\r\nI\'d see conflicting values and priorities (point 14) here in his (old brain) financial priority and his (new brain) self-improvement, which was an ongoing theme because here he didn\'t fully \"follow his heart\", and that cost him energy. \r\nNow when he resolves one of these, he would get into regeneration which again costs him energy at least in phase A! \r\nSo now that his lack of energy became a main problem also for his self-esteem, he needs to understand the pattern to accept some regeneration fatigue, but also feel that he has the energy of being on the \"right way\" now, which will grow stronger once he gets past regeneration phase A. This is actually what I tried to show him in the session.\r\nDoes that make sense?', 'b18f18730471a0452cde4f72a6a76e33', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-948-b18f187304@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-948-504b7fd456@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(959, '16', 'forum', 957, 'Kora', 1650314480, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Question ', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nyes also nail-biting fits the aggression-against-self (which is a territorial cortex constellation namely of \"territorial anger\" and \"identity quest\" with more conflict weight on the right hemisphere, thus suppressing the male hormones). By that, aggression against others is inhibited which is often seen together with depression. We\'ll cover the cerebral cortex and its specialties soon in the course!\r\n\r\nWe want to differentiate thoughts and beliefs from feelings. We can feel disappointed, we can feel pain, but \"I can\'t do that\" is rather a thought that can turn into a belief. Because you might be able to do that in another way, or with more practice. One magic word to add can be \"yet\" - \"I can\'t do that yet\". Which is just the point you\'re at, but without devaluation or prognosis.\r\n\r\nEve\'s case isn\'t yet clear regarding what the original conflict was, it wasn\'t ready to be revealed yet, but the attached belief is very strong, showing that there is a big conflict weight. And the weight is (always) connected to feelings (i. e. sensations and emotions). That\'s why we want to work carefully, respectfully, persistently with these, until it feels safe for Eve\'s bodymind to let go of the \"tight belief\".', '7eec3e32c51f26797dc20713f1b8dc92', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-957-7eec3e32c5@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-955-f665cf495e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(960, '16', 'forum', 948, 'verity', 1650315824, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Hi Kora,\r\nThat totally makes sense! I just have a question  - how do you tell the difference between someone who has found their path and their way to healing and someone who is repeating a negative pattern of trying to control instead of allow? I just battle with this myself and was wondering is it really a fine line between the two or are there obvious pointers that you are headed in the right direction? It seems like he was doing a lot of things to fix himself and alleviate his situation, can this in itself not cause a conflict? .. Sorry I\'m not sure if my question is clear.... :) thank you!', 'dad90bf855bf79efb15b1ecef49e26ac', '', '', '2.31.74.160', '', NULL, 'verity-948-dad90bf855@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-948-b18f187304@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(961, '16', 'forum', 948, 'Kora', 1650316829, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Thanks for the question,Verity!\r\nThis is about authenticity right? If you force yourself it will show by overdoing it, by not working, by feeling empty or by suppressing your feelings. It might end in some mania, addiction or in an accident - been there and done that!\r\nLet\'s talk about how to tell and what to do in tomorrow\'s session, I think some answers will show up!', '7dba457c012745fe61aee2c587015362', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-948-7dba457c01@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-948-dad90bf855@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(962, '16', 'forum', 957, 'ousaima', 1650330366, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Question ', 'Wow that’s beautifully accurately explained, Thanks a lot Kora that explains lots of the confusion I had .', '4e76542e65490f368e731c83c1b54c19', '', '', '149.109.107.164', '', NULL, 'ousaima-957-4e76542e65@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-957-7eec3e32c5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(963, '16', 'forum', 948, 'verity', 1650356701, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 13: Ben\'s fatigue seen with META-eyes', 'Wonderful! thank you Yes, I have also been there.... :) its not fun...', 'ce87f7b5a92fe9ebc04f91ebde121433', '', '', '81.143.203.220', '', NULL, 'verity-948-ce87f7b5a9@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-948-7dba457c01@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(964, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1650544619, 19, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Question regarding Teleseminar 14', '1. Territorial areas , hormonal status, male- female perceptions everything you explained starting minute 5 I was not able tu understand. Help please!\r\n\r\n2. Also I wonder why in the presentation the Territorial areas is marked in blue and the contact, social status in red. Is that referring to stress and regeneration phase? Or does it rather have a different meaning?\r\n\r\n3. Also I’d like to ask why the stomach, the lesser curvature produces ulcers in the stress phase when its a minus reaction in stress phase?\r\n\r\n4. Than in minute 36 where you’re talking about the spinal cord, I’d be interested in what type of effects or symptoms are connected to that. Would be a disc prolapse or a dislocation of the vertebra discs fall under not being able to, not wanting to ect? And does the location of the disc (upper spine, lower spine) tell us about the specific conflict?\r\n\r\n5. Minute 45: Hyperesthesia in regeneration phase combined with a KCT Syndrome result in a fibromyalgia as a form of symptom?\r\n\r\n6. Also maybe you could explain again the image of the inner skin scheme. I just couldn’t figure out what belongs to what.\r\n\r\nThank you Kora!', '601ccf5c19ab1c5612ceabf4d049f7ea', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', '', 'Eve Kosko-0-ae0168fa60@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(965, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1650545821, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Loosing weight', 'I know, please don’t judge me for asking regarding this topic…\r\nSince we all know by now this topic is actually occupying me since the longest time. \r\n\r\nI’m reaching out to ‚META Health‘ so to say because from what I have observed over all these years with me but also with many in my surroundingsI feel that all what’s out there regarding diets, weight loss, reasons why some are thin, others are not are simply don’t make any sense to me. \r\nJust like why some people have certain symptoms, why some are sick and others not and I found plausible explanations in META Health, I feel that there needs to be a better explanation than any I’ve heard so far. \r\n\r\nI have so many questions like: \r\nWhy do some ppl never have weight issues? No matter what they eat, or feel or do?\r\nOthers struggle their entire life with being overweight, even though they eat just as anybody else…\r\nWhy do some loose weight with a diet, others not, no matter what they do? \r\nOr others try to gain weight, and they never do, no matter how or what they eat...\r\n\r\nThere must me a secret behind all that!\r\n\r\nAny META Health perspective or insight on that?', '45dae11e9ad863e1d6bac735cb9d136b', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', '', 'Eve Kosko-0-f4d1832f48@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(966, '16', 'forum', 964, 'Kora', 1650574988, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Question regarding Teleseminar 14', '1. We will explain these in an extra session. \r\n2. The light blue font is meant to reflect the light blue region of the brain graphic (part of the sensory cortex), while the red font and the red frame of the whole graphic is meant to point out that this is about the cerebral cortex and ectodermal tissues. The red and blue of the phases are darker shades. Sorry for the confusion!\r\n3. An ulcer is a \"tissue minus\".\r\n4. The cortical motoric impulse is travelling with the ((Nervous - Motoric Innervation|nerve)) through the spinal cord and further on to the effecting ((Musculoskeletal - Skeletal Muscles|striated muscles)) When there is a minus in stress, the impulses are blocked, resulting in paresis (weakness) or paralysis (no muscular action possible). Symptoms can also be shaking and instability.\r\nThe nerves can also be impacted by physical damage, like a torn disc. In case of a disc hernia the first conflict was self-devaluation and degradation of the ((Musculoskeletal - Cartilage|cartilage)), and the secondary conflict is the inability to move.\r\n5. Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis meaning pain in muscles and fibres (like in the fascia). These belong to the mesodermal tissues and not ectodermal skins.\r\nBut ((Integumentary - Skin - Epidermis|epidermis)) plus KCT syndrome could result in hives or shingles for example. ((Digestive - Anal Mucosa (squamous epithelium)|Anal mucosa)) plus KCT can produce painful fissures or hemorrhoids.\r\n6. In the graphic, I marked the organs in the ((Digestive - System Overview|digestive tract)) that, apart from endodermal tissue (yellow), also have ectodermal parts (red). The \"inner skin scheme\" applies mainly for these, plus for the lining in the ((Circulatory - Coronary Veins (intima)|coronary vessels)) of the heart.', '115344f54530bd350a79dcf3af894c8c', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-964-115344f545@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-ae0168fa60@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(967, '16', 'forum', 965, 'Kora', 1650576483, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Loosing weight', 'Hi Eve,\r\nour metabolisms work differently depending on how they have been programmed and trained - by our ancestors and their conflicts, by our own conflicts, by our values, by our beliefs, and by our habits. There are certain conflicts that especially impact our weight: \r\n*brain stem \"((Digestive - Liver - Parenchyma|starvation))\" fear makes us save and store energy more efficiently (by getting fat). We might also get greedy and overeat, but not necessarily.\r\n*brain stem \"((Urinary - Kidneys - Collecting Tubules|abandonment))\" makes us retain water\r\n*brain stem \"((Endocrine - Thyroid - Follicular Epithelium|need to get faster))\" makes us burn lots of energy so these people always keep thin whatever they eat\r\n*cortex \"((Endocrine - Pancreas - Alpha Islet Cells|resistance/disgus))t\" avoidance strategies can give us cravings\r\n*medulla \"inner fight\" about the ((Endocrine - Adrenal Gland - Cortex|way to follow)) can also give us cravings', '7a28a26d02384e92c8ff5a7aae4fd32f', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-965-7a28a26d02@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-f4d1832f48@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(968, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1650788878, 42, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Question lesson 14 ', 'Hi kora , \r\nI need your help plz to understand two points :\r\n\r\n1.  What did you mean by physical irritability will promote agressiveness in motivation ( high irritability in stomach as an example will do what ? ) \r\n\r\n2.  Secondary gain and stilling of hunger for healing ? Secondary conflicts of selfworth you mean will give a secondary gain ? What’s that gain if you plz if you can explain more I’ll be grateful:) \r\n\r\n3. Healing peak is short unless if it was repeated it will bring longer loss of memory is that right ? Or what does repeated on and off brings ? \r\n\r\n4. Association / special parts only ! Which parts could we associate to side dominance ? And which to female and male, I’m a little bit confused with this', '4669c8b41f0a93ef3f2bfbfb907d2e49', '', '', '142.247.229.16', '', NULL, 'ousaima-0-4669c8b41f@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(969, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Pr majda', 1650822927, 30, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Walking barefoot and Grounding experience', 'Hi Kora, \r\n\r\nI would like to share with you my experience with grounding:\r\nas a muslim, we practice prayer at least 5 times a day with movements that begin with a straight posture with the foot on the ground and include a succession of movements including the palms of both hands and do it on the ground. this is very soothing and perfectly matches the meaning \"Follow your hearth\".\r\n\r\nBests,', 'ba82b163c635c9b73df6dff5a2af3911', '', '', '160.176.122.190', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-0-ba82b163c6@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(970, '16', 'forum', 969, 'Kora', 1650824156, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Walking barefoot and Grounding experience', 'Thank you Majda,\r\nyes, in various religions and philosophies, these grounding techniques are implemented, which is a good thing to remind us of our heritage and connection, isn\'t it?', '748ad5d9db21ae5c875273094d6f807e', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-969-748ad5d9db@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-0-ba82b163c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(971, '16', 'forum', 968, 'Kora', 1650826937, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Question lesson 14 ', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\n1. We often see stomach ulcers or gall bladder ache in people who have an aggressive attitude, or have a hard time to suppress it when they are angry, that\'s why they may take to aggression against self (like biting nails or scratching/cutting their skin.And I think that the physical irritability also can aggravate this behaviour.\r\n2. Can you refer to the time I name this in the video please? \r\n3. In cerebral cortex related organs, healing peak reactions are typically very short, a seizure or a \"spacing out\" moment. Loss of memory, or typical dementia, follows several separation/loss of touch traumas, and in these cases there is scarring or placque accumulating in the affected brain regions.\r\n4. You refer to the territorial areas in a special part of the cerebral cortex, right? In this part, the \"insula\", the side dominance doesn\'t refer to partner/child eye-level distinction, but to the priority of male or female attributes and behaviour, and these relays are also influencing the release of sexual hormones. Let\'s talk about these when we come over the territorial constellations, which reveal our personality and typical ways of interacting in groups', 'cb9a40cc76e2676397107317524219d7', '', '', '176.72.51.145', '', NULL, 'Kora-968-cb9a40cc76@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-4669c8b41f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(972, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1650837608, 18, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Prostration and grounding from a scientific point of view', 'Hi All , \r\nI’d like to share these two valuable links that have some scientific facts about prostration (sajda) and it’s grounding effects , plz feel free to discuss it from different META aspects \r\n1.\r\nhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6712630/\r\n\r\n2.\r\n\r\nhttps://aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/science-muslim-issues/health-benefits-of-muslim-earthing-prostration/', '3306a582e51be4c56f01ecf1be838035', '', '', '142.247.229.16', '', NULL, 'ousaima-0-3306a582e5@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(973, '16', 'forum', 969, 'ousaima', 1650837988, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Walking barefoot and Grounding experience', 'Hi Majda and thanks for sharing , that helped me to search for some scientific research about prostration that we use In our prayers and I shared the links in a new topic Icon for discussion plz check too, it has valuable information that can be discussed from different META aspects.\r\nThanks Kora and Majda :) can’t thank you enough', 'fd3d7df334bf41ec2f7891af0cb2215a', '', '', '142.247.229.16', '', NULL, 'ousaima-969-fd3d7df334@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-0-ba82b163c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(974, '16', 'forum', 968, 'ousaima', 1650839110, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Question lesson 14 ', 'Thanks Kora , \r\nThat all makes total sense ,\r\nQuestion number2 was in the minute 56 in the video \r\n\r\n4. Number 4 I meant that you mentioned association regarding same eye level and different eye level is only present in some areas of the cortex (special area) and since you mentioned the territorial ones are regarding female and male side then what are these places that are connected to same eye level and different, no worries I’ll wait until the session to understand more \r\nThanks a lot for your help :)', '2be3edfae17ff3e1db0f3b748a827261', '', '', '142.247.229.16', '', NULL, 'ousaima-968-2be3edfae1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-968-cb9a40cc76@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(975, '16', 'forum', 969, 'Stephanie', 1650917951, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Walking barefoot and Grounding experience', 'Wonderful approach to whole being and prayer.  Thank you for these observations.  Stephanie', 'dc5b36a3300b97ef23258fd9d5448c35', '', '', '67.182.140.51', '', NULL, 'Stephanie-969-dc5b36a330@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-0-ba82b163c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(976, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1651001095, 123, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Do you have further questions about the old brain/new brain conflicts and reactions of skins and mucosae?\r\nDo you have a healing process or a case to share? Please use this thread!', '6529ce58e5783b6677ed43f37ace0949', '', '', '46.132.35.62', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-6529ce58e5@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(977, '16', 'forum', 968, 'Kora', 1651006366, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Question lesson 14 ', 'Now I see what you meant!\r\nAs in the new brain there is a \"function and tissue plus\" in the regeneration phase, Dr Hamer found that tumors from ectodermal tissues grow after conflict resolution.\r\nWe\'d expect a replenishment of the tissue to stop at the point where healing is completed. So when the growth doesn\'t stop, what does that mean?\r\nApparently there is no signal received that the healing is completed so that the process can stop. On an emotional level, there might be a secondary gain by the regeneration symptoms - like getting more attention and care - but also secondary conflicts like self-devaluation can prevent completion by deteriorating the internal conditions for health. I talked about a \"hunger for healing\" that needs to be stilled, when we were imprinted with a lack or loss.\r\n\r\nApart from the territorial regions in the insular cortex, in all other cortical relays the symptom location associates to \"same eye-level\" (partner) or \"different eye-level\" (parent/child). Like in ((Integumentary - Skin - Epidermis|epidermis)), skin ((Nervous - Sensory Innervation|sensation)) or ((Nervous - Motoric Innervation|motor function)) etc.', 'a4792e61f40e95e5c0a7a320ae4aa5c1', '', '', '46.132.35.62', '', NULL, 'Kora-968-a4792e61f4@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-968-2be3edfae1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(978, '16', 'forum', 976, 'ousaima', 1651187896, 23, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI have a question about hair loss if you plz , could it also have two brain themes , cerebellum and cortex ? \r\nOr we refer it only to cortex ? If it can be activated by both brain layers how can we differentiate with absence of other symptoms, I mean just hair fall ? Or is it by investigation with the client since hair fall is hair fall with no other characteristics! Or shall we search for symptoms of the scalp like itching may be or dandruff ?', '1fc0afae41eb1c3c73f15ce68e7b91d0', '', '', '95.185.60.12', '', '', 'ousaima-976-1ad37781c7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-6529ce58e5@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(979, '16', 'forum', 978, 'Kora', 1651265520, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'In general, hair loss would be referred to as cerebral cortex - separation. Skin and hair can also be means to excrete toxins, which then will rather be environmental impact. Then, male sex hormones can also lead to hair loss (typically in the forehead), here some other programs play a role. The latter can be investigated if the separation theme seems not to fit at all.', '6ebbb8c03daebf0888070dc8cf023894', '', '', '86.114.215.167', '', NULL, 'Kora-978-6ebbb8c03d@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-976-1ad37781c7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(980, '16', 'forum', 978, 'ousaima', 1651429819, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Thanks Kora , \r\nThat’s really valuable , I wonder too about baldness, since you can see sometimes baldness running in males of the same family , and usually they say it’s hereditary , could it be also a cerebral cortex conflict that’s running through the family in a pattern ?  Or what does this baldness mean in META health ?I mean could it be a healing peak with all that minus response ? Or is it a minus response of a prolonged stress phase ? If so why it begins usually at the same age in family members over generations ?', '16370318cc89222dc7e478914d08e4c7', '', '', '142.247.170.152', '', '', 'ousaima-978-1f9169bb7d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-978-6ebbb8c03d@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(981, '16', 'forum', 976, 'ousaima', 1651527979, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI have another question if you plz , I know some children that were born with eczema that got worse as they grew older , so here we think in two directions:\r\n1. It can be a separation or loss of contact conflict that the mother went through during pregnancy \r\n2. It can be because of early birth of premature babies that were separated from their mothers immediately after birth and also some i heard from some doctors that they usually notice that children who were not naturally delivered ( delivered by C section) they develop eczema , and here i think it’s because c - section babies at some hospitals are not given to their moms immediately after birth and even some aren’t breastfed / also separation conflict \r\nBut my question is , how do we solve this eczema in an infant , in the first question solving it with the mother will solve it i guess with the kids, but in the other question how can we solve this in infants ?', '323c6a40c04d7e40bd5700087c60eacc', '', '', '5.41.188.58', '', NULL, 'ousaima-976-323c6a40c0@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-6529ce58e5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(982, '16', 'forum', 981, 'Kora', 1651563757, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nyes your thoughts are totally correct, we look at all factors that were and are impacting the mother and the unborn child, including physical/environmental factors that can irritate the skin. Even garments could be both irritating and reminding of conflicts: I had a client who was a fisherman and he developed eczema especially in the spots where his rubber outfit had had skin contact, but he got this after he had to sell his boat and give up fishing.\r\nAs it\'s a biological reaction that is triggered by emotions, emotions are also the way to heal. For an infant, this means security and love, especially for the affected areas of skin, while the mother works on herself on her emotions towards the child.\r\nEspecially in a c-section there can be the feeling of having been separated unwillingly and too early, and in a way involving an attack...', 'a514402b76091ad72b3b667465d54d17', '', '', '176.72.54.192', '', NULL, 'Kora-981-a514402b76@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-976-323c6a40c0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(983, '16', 'forum', 976, 'ousaima', 1651578655, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI wonder if bruxism( pressing your teeth hardly while sleeping) is also a compulsive action that’s related to cerebral cortex  ? Or is it a brain stem response since it’s biting ??or is it a healing peak of recurring biting chunk because at last it leads to stiffness in jaw muscles and bones  and loss of function, could you plz explain this for me :) \r\nThanks a lot for your endless help , and plz if you can check above there is another question about baldness I guess you missed it  :)', 'e338e6d32d83c60cdd5a3a385cd13258', '', '', '142.247.170.152', '', NULL, 'ousaima-976-e338e6d32d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-6529ce58e5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(984, '16', 'forum', 978, 'verity', 1651582243, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Kora, Can I ask if separation can also refer to separation from self? Not just being isolated from a support system but separate from your true desires and your higher purposes?\r\nThanks! V', 'b25761dc9a2c2ee61e11191867b1fcde', '', '', '81.143.203.220', '', NULL, 'verity-978-b25761dc9a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-978-6ebbb8c03d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(985, '16', 'forum', 976, 'verity', 1651582450, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Kora,\r\nI have two test cases I am working on with volunteers. Do I post them here to share or e mail them to you privately?\r\nthank you!', '39bc859b13a4c92cf0853593da8a2d0a', '', '', '81.130.133.49', '', NULL, 'verity-976-39bc859b13@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-6529ce58e5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(986, '16', 'forum', 978, 'Kora', 1651583944, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Verity,\r\nusually it would have to do with a felt sense of touch. If the client herself comes up with this association I wouldn\'t exclude the possibility though, especially regarding hair loss, as hair work also like sensory \"antennae\". Also, skin can act as excretory organ to get rid of toxins and emotional toxins. If you lose your higher purpose, what\'s left might feel like a toxin? Of course, these considerations would need to be confirmed by the client.', '0ce4afcdb4f14052ad28ce5760e36f6c', '', '', '176.72.54.192', '', NULL, 'Kora-978-0ce4afcdb4@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-978-b25761dc9a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(987, '16', 'forum', 985, 'Kora', 1651584073, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Verity, that\'s up to you and your clients whether it feels safe to share their cases here. Otherwise you can email them to me.', 'e9e841dfe70e2fcad0c5aefb7ab2bcfb', '', '', '176.72.54.192', '', NULL, 'Kora-985-e9e841dfe7@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-976-39bc859b13@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(988, '16', 'forum', 976, 'Kora', 1651584325, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nI see bruxism as a biting or expression conflict (cerebral cortex) that they attempt to resolve during the night. It could also be a healing peak - then the issue would already have been resolved during the day or in the evening, like coming home after work where one has the conflict with the boss...', '49a4a574cbdae43a395ac6400aea3edb', '', '', '176.72.54.192', '', NULL, 'Kora-976-49a4a574cb@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-976-e338e6d32d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(989, '16', 'forum', 978, 'verity', 1651596390, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lesson 15 - skins, touchiness and healing resources', 'perfect thank you! :)', 'e92707fee82ccd10fde2f39372fcf3e9', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-978-e92707fee8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-978-0ce4afcdb4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(990, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1651611041, 147, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Let\'s discuss the systemic constellation session with Anu here:\r\n1. For somebody who weren\'t there, how would you who were involved describe how you got into the field? \r\n2. How did it feel to leave the field and the role again?\r\n3. Did the process affect you later in any way?\r\n4. More to share?', '8b6d54abedc445468ce63f0ba377ab58', '', '', '176.72.54.192', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(991, '16', 'forum', 990, 'Pr majda', 1651675239, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi Kora, Anu and all classmates!\r\n\r\nRegarding the constellation session, it was a magic experience for me. I was very connected with the feeling and don\'t know how to Express that. After the session, I felt very tired, zero energy and some pain in my muscles. Could I I match that symptoms with the constellation? I had also a bizarre dream when I slept, but with a specific members of my family. The separation and leaving the \"original \" land are definitely the roots of my patterns. Now the question: how to deep with and to resolve the conflict? Is the awareness sufficient? Thank you again Anu and Kora', '03a537a67d67f324c5c9b7d993a09be5', '', '', '160.178.165.185', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-990-03a537a67d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(992, '16', 'forum', 990, 'ousaima', 1651713418, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi Everyone , \r\nI’d like to share my experience too,I had this very bad heart palpitations during the session and  I had during the session interrupted pain in my neck and back it was going so intense at some points of the session , and after the session I had this intense pain again for the whole day and the day after ! So much pain in my neck , my back and even my leg and heel! But I don’t know if it’s related to this or it was may be because it was a stress trigger again because of injustice ? But at the same time with all this pain i had energy like when you drink lots of amounts of caffeine , I couldn’t sleep at all until 8 am ! My eyes were open with my body feeling tired :) \r\nI did some grounding immediately after the session during my prayer and i walked too but still feeling my body moving but my inner everything is sleeping,  i felt i had information overwhelm i guess ! And I remembered i was having coffee just before our session after a long period of cutting on coffee ! \r\nSo i’m not sure this was because of the coffee or is related to the session but I wanted to share with all :)', 'c0f842ee0432db8a7dae2613a238efc6', '', '', '142.247.170.152', '', NULL, 'ousaima-990-c0f842ee04@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(993, '16', 'forum', 990, 'Lucia Franziska', 1651762063, 13, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi, I wonder, since a few have expressed that they felt low afterwards or the day later, if one actually gets caught up and intermingled with other ppls\' energy and that stays? The question for me is , if that\'s the case, if that is actually healing and not taking on other ppl problems. \r\nAs an empath who tends to absorb other ppl\'s stuff/ energy that might not be a healing process without knowing how to apply the skills of releasing them..... And not without the skills of knowing how to look underneath the personal issues ,that might stem from early childhood, why one tends to absorb energy of others in in the first place. There is sensitivity on one hand but on the other there is feeling an unconscious responsibility  to sort out ppl\'s( loved ones) problems for them. ...thinking that absorbing solves them.', '29c03a294bc5ea00534fd6e780a543d8', '', '', '78.146.140.162', '', '', 'Lucia Franziska-990-f1de96c657@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(994, '16', 'forum', 993, 'Kora', 1651870344, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi Lucia,\r\nyes taking on other peoples\' energies is a problem for many, and especially for therapists. You\'re right that releasing these energies and emotions is crucial for maintaining our health.This is not specific to systemic work though, and the healing here is mainly meant to happen for the system that is acted out in the constellation.\r\nWhen a foreign energy seems to stay, it is because it reflects a part of us we may have shut out - just like in the system, every part belongs there and that needs to be accepted before healing happens.\r\n\r\nI do encourage everybody to practise energy discharge with the help of outbreath, of grounding, of movement, or neurogenic tremor as discussed in previous sessions', '746ac3a6f4a79ce8bacd4b5988e177ad', '', '', '188.238.190.70', '', NULL, 'Kora-993-746ac3a6f4@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-990-f1de96c657@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(995, '16', 'forum', 990, 'camila', 1651908442, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi Kora, I watched  the record yesterday and It was a little bit shocked for me. I saw my family story happening there. Rebecca was my mother and Craig my father, and Dr.Rashmi my Older sister who loosed a lot of her hair. It was just the same story and even what Majda talk about the other woman who was with the father.\r\nSo I can see now things from out of the box and is really amazing. Thank you all.', '889060e9662ccce2aea6927818cbfeb8', '', '', '2.137.142.185', '', NULL, 'camila-990-889060e966@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(996, '16', 'forum', 993, 'Lucia Franziska', 1652006133, 11, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Thank you Kora, that is interesting.\r\nThe intention of letting go of other people\'s energy matters.\r\nI couldn\'t have done with this books advice https://www.amazon.co.uk/Self-Care-Self-Aware-Sensitive-Empaths-Intuitives/dp/1452578567/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1KWEIYL1ZQ8VL&keywords=self+care+for+the+self+aware+sensitive+people&qid=1652005770&sprefix=self+care+for+the+self+aware+sensitive+people%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-1\r\nThere are lots of books out there for energy discharge.\r\nThanks again for explaining about the system. ......something to ponder on ', 'b433772d6ea5949aacae5f2a11e1347d', '', '', '78.146.140.162', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-993-b433772d6e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-993-746ac3a6f4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(997, '16', 'forum', 996, 'Kora', 1652036021, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Thank you Lucia for the link!\r\nThere are even certain techniques dedicated to \"sort others\' energies out\", like logosynthesis. Perhaps we have time to demonstrate it in this course or in a Master Class.', '78bd8059260103c7f1224e46954f41d0', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-996-78bd805926@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-993-b433772d6e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(998, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1652058438, 25, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Long sightedness and eye problems', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI wonder what’s the Meta point view about long sightedness and short sightedness as well as deviation in sight , especially that we can see this running in the whole family or a child born with these sight problems ? I wonder too if you witnessed a reversal in these ever ? Plz share if there are any cases :) \r\nThanks in advance :)', '8475f612d2d948126becb7daa0c73eef', '', '', '178.87.201.234', '', NULL, 'ousaima-0-8475f612d2@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(999, '16', 'forum', 990, 'Stephanie', 1652121075, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Hi,\r\n[mailto:email@example.com|Kora, I sent an e-mail directly to you yesterday.  With some of my experiences.]\r\nThanks\r\nStephanie', '1e6e2c7729f25b5676adfdb2cb90cdde', '', '', '67.182.140.51', '', NULL, 'Stephanie-990-1e6e2c7729@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8b6d54abed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1000, '16', 'forum', 998, 'Kora', 1652126570, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Long sightedness and eye problems', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\ndid you check pages 121-122 in the [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2203|book] ?\r\nLong- and shortsightedness (ambliopia/myopia) can have different physical mechanisms behind, one major one is ((Sensory - Eye Muscles|muscular)). There are many cases in which these could be bettered or reversed, my own mother learned to see without glasses with the help of retraining her eye muscles and her habits. Of course, also family habits can be reversed, especially when we see through the dynamics...\r\nThe strategy of nearsightedness is to shut out things that are out of one\'s control, whereas farsightedness makes you perceive a threat at a distance and prevents you to get stuck in details. A deviation of sight will often make you look away from a source of conflict. If we know the goal of the strategy, we can find better means to reach it!\r\nIf one is born with such a condition, I personally haven\'t had a case where it could be reversed by coaching.', '375871a1c651960d7c67d83788df0104', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-998-375871a1c6@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-8475f612d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1001, '16', 'forum', 998, 'ousaima', 1652138879, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Long sightedness and eye problems', 'Thanks a lot that’s so valuable , I really appreciate these valuable information ! Astonishing indeed :)', '89f2911d19b5dcfb6ce783900aa240ab', '', '', '178.87.201.234', '', NULL, 'ousaima-998-89f2911d19@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-998-375871a1c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1002, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1652216884, 76, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 17: explore your states and responses!', 'What can trigger you into a __manic or a low state__? \r\n*Explore situations, conflict partners, VAKOG triggers: what part of you feels vulnerable and is neglected or confirmed before your scale tips over? \r\n*What meaning or function does that state have for you?\r\n*Could you switch it back, and how did that happen?', '10be8d51660b0e8a11a86973cb1f62f5', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-10be8d5166@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1003, '16', 'forum', 1002, 'ousaima', 1652286427, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 17: explore your states and responses!', 'Hi kora , \r\nI noticed that bringing joy to someone or relieving pain of someone always brings decisiveness and accomplishment and brings my testosterone levels up on that scale :) this is the thing that drives my energy levels up even if my physical status doesn’t agree with that ! I experienced that many times , for example if My body is so tired and I want to sleep and ( my muscles as you know now don’t help me to do that much yet  ) but if I have a call from anyone who may be suffering of some kind of pain or depression or anything or we want to surprise someone with a party and some work to be done , my muscles will help me to sit down and hear their problem and try to help them with a lot of energy as if I’m not the same person who’s tired also I’ll get up as if I’m having the strongest muscles ever and do all the work needed to surprise that person and bring joy to his life , and that really put me in some trouble in some of my toxic relationships and friendships ! Because sometimes i’ll say I can’t go to visit someone of our friends because I’m so tired and I’m in the hospital and so on , but if they tell me but you know this person is in real pain or needs your help or if you come that will bring lots of joy to him and so on , then I’ll go and they’ll never believe that I was telling the truth when i said I’m sick and I can totally understand that  because my body and energy levels then doesn’t tell my real health state ,  I’ll be supporting that one and they’ll never notice that I’m tired even The drive for help will numb the feeling of pain or distract my pain by making my testosterone levels so high ( manic) , then when I come home my estrogen levels will flip the scale and I’ll be more tired and exhausted with all the pain again ! \r\n\r\n1. What drives me to the manic side of the scale is the pain of others or when someone  is in need or when I want to bring joy and hope for others.\r\n\r\n\r\n2. What brings me more to the estrogen depression side is when I see someone takes advantage of my empath side , and when I feel lots of responsibilities or when I can’t change the pain of someone because of injustice from another one who I couldn’t change ! \r\n\r\nSo I guess it’s all about pain ! And that always makes some  people take advantage of what I provide and also creates some haters in my world ! Imbalances of these hormones do really make what we are , and make as well some imbalances in our social relationships !', 'a563ed738d25fba0613bb2dc5341bb64', '', '', '178.87.201.234', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1002-a563ed738d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-10be8d5166@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1004, '16', 'forum', 996, 'Lucia Franziska', 1652359745, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lesson 16: Systemic work', 'Thank you ,Kora.\r\nI would be really interested to find out more. I download slides and info before but a practical application woul be most helpful.\r\nMaybe other ppl on the course are interested too.\r\n☺️', 'c55e6a58ba2cee39313f48c1ecf3787b', '', '', '157.231.204.131', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-996-c55e6a58ba@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-996-78bd805926@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1005, '16', 'forum', 0, 'ousaima', 1652536584, 18, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Compulsive hair pulling ', 'Hi Kora , \r\nI’ve been working on a case of compulsive hair pulling, and after investigation with the client I found that the emotions where a mix of regret and guilt because of loss of chatting with someone the client loved and was planning to get married to him ! She was feeling guilty because she cut chatting with him without explaining for him why , and at the same time she doesn’t want to contact him again , but this separation caused her lots of guilt emotions! Blaming herself too much ! \r\nHere the compulsive hair pulling is a cerebral cortex constellation as we already discussed together, but the identity quest ( you mentioned before) is the guilt and blaming she’s doing to herself ? That made her lost and brought her some self devaluation ? Is that what’s identity quest is ? Because she has lots of thoughts if she’s good or may be bad in his eyes ! So plz help here what Identity quest is ? \r\n\r\nTerritory anger was in her case this constant fear of separation because she said may be if we got married he’ll not be the right person and we’ll separate later ,because after further investigation her dad and mom relationship , she has doubts that they’re supposed to be separated because they’re totally not coping with each other ! So here her conflict originated from fear of separation of her parents ,is this right ? I’m still mixing territory anger or territorial conflicts plz help', '58b1062b7a0e10d120e226341c247f3b', '', '', '37.107.24.238', '', NULL, 'ousaima-0-58b1062b7a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1006, '16', 'forum', 1005, 'Kora', 1652558113, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Compulsive hair pulling ', 'Hello Ousaima,\r\nguilt and blaming herself is self-devaluation. The identity quest seems to be the doubt that he\'ll not be the right person because of her mom\'s and dad\'s relationship being her template. She suffers from the loss of contact and she tells herself that she doesn\'t want that contact. She doesn\'t know who to trust, where safety shall come from, and she blames herself for this. Therefore, her reaction of hair-pulling refers both to a separation theme and a a \"auto-aggressive\"  behaviour.\r\nTerritorial fear and territorial anger are both nuances of territorial conflicts by the way.\r\nGood job!', 'ea399039f8bd5d4c745f318a84080b74', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1005-ea399039f8@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-0-58b1062b7a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1007, '16', 'forum', 1002, 'Kora', 1652560789, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 17: explore your states and responses!', 'Thank you for sharing, Ousaima!\r\nSo it\'s your identity to take other people\'s pain. It energizes you, but only for as long as you\'re needed. When you\'re not successful, or when someone \"steals\" the reward, your scale flips. Anyway, you overpower your body, it\'s a catch-22.\r\nBut have you ever learned that you ARE a wonderful and valuable human being, you cannot be other than perfect, no matter what you DO and what the result is? Because the immediate result depends on others\' readiness, and the later result we can\'t perceive from where we stand. \r\nYour happiness and energy could be completely independent from these immediate results and from other human beings. It\'s a matter of expanding your identity. Is there anybody in your life who or what can teach you that and who you believe?', '8ba0e8b8a767c7365b7e1ae0ac4ca9dc', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1002-8ba0e8b8a7@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1002-a563ed738d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1008, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1652800520, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'social engagement system', 'Dear koora,\r\n\r\nkindly can you explain to me how i can be in the ventral vagal state most of the time or how to get easily this state and also mention for me some techniques that i can use to switch myself from the sympathetic state to the social engagement system .', '398dc77f434de31a882f9dcbf542117d', '', '', '197.36.8.46', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-0-398dc77f43@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1009, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1652815764, 24, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'next sessions', 'Dear kora,\r\nkindly can you speak more about therapy and techniques that we can use to help our clients to resolve there conflicts on the next sessions as now we have a good experience in diagnosis and knowing the root of the conflicts but we don\'t have enough knowledge  about the methods that  we can use to resolve them and thank you very much for helping and cooperation always', 'a2f0c9b37d05f12cb6934a34c3712652', '', '', '197.36.8.46', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-0-a2f0c9b37d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1010, '16', 'forum', 1008, 'Kora', 1652820432, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: social engagement system', 'Dear Basma,\r\nfirst you want to establish whether there is a need for your sympathetic nerves to activate you: Are you and those you live with  in a safe place?\r\nIf yes, then [https://www.parsleyhealth.com/blog/how-to-stimulate-vagus-nerve-exercises/|these activities] will help your Social Engagement System. There are some switches too, like squinting with both eyes towards the tip of your nose. Washing your face with cold water also stimulates the ventral vagus.', '5c4101d28fd707ad0748fc0eea9630ff', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1008-5c4101d28f@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-0-398dc77f43@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1011, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1652822980, 259, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Try a case study exercise and try to break it down with the \r\n[https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2214|documentation form]! (If you like use one of the examples in today\'s session)\r\nYou can attach the file to your post. \r\nLet\'s review and help each other!', '07aa562587dc5fe124f99e57aded7672', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1012, '16', 'forum', 1009, 'Kora', 1652823363, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: next sessions', 'Dear Basma,\r\nthank you, that\'s what I have in mind we\'ll do!', 'b752ab376b241bab0888c5abe7c1b672', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1009-b752ab376b@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-0-a2f0c9b37d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1013, '16', 'forum', 1009, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1652873460, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: next sessions', 'thank you very much', 'd2c00e2e484bbc27e0041a9e8322b26c', '', '', '197.36.9.16', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-1009-d2c00e2e48@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1009-b752ab376b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1014, '16', 'forum', 1008, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1652875447, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: social engagement system', 'thank you for your help', 'd227290b37e7e91d8ac516adbb1e2b84', '', '', '197.36.9.16', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-1008-d227290b37@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-0-398dc77f43@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1015, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'Kora', 1653045615, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case study: knee instability', 'Compare this documentation with the [https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-index.php?page=META-Pro+2022+-+demonstrations|session] I had with Craig!', '498a5e87fa1edac1b3db4a265f7594ea', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', '', 'Kora-1011-007f864cdc@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1016, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'Kora', 1653046148, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case study: heart pressure and pain', 'This study includes both cerebral ((Circulatory - Myocardium - Ventricles|medulla)) and ((Circulatory - Coronary Arteries (Intima)|cortex themes)). Check also the constellations named on the wiki page and think what type of intervention fits this client!', 'b0a320fec396ad911243afba03b0854f', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1011-b0a320fec3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1017, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'Kora', 1653052493, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case study: social anxiety', 'Here\'s the documentation of a very interesting psychological case. The client revealed the cause for his social avoidance first after I had suggested that the company of others must be a trigger, reminding him of a \"helplessness\" trauma. This was the incident of the gathering with colleagues and the phone call.', '40f1f9fa4aafcea4d1bc5e732c4e6857', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1011-40f1f9fa4a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1018, '16', 'forum', 1008, 'verity', 1653121388, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: social engagement system', 'Hi Kora / Basma\r\nI love to use havening to bring me back to a calm centred state... Kora, do you think this is activating the central vagal state? Basma maybe you could try one or two of these exercises?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQXbZmuSbFs', 'be3437f62b629950a73def81ed6c9486', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-1008-be3437f62b@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-1008-d227290b37@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1019, '16', 'forum', 1018, 'Kora', 1653124144, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: social engagement system', 'Hi Verity,\r\nthanks for the video! Yes, what he\'s doing is conveying the feeling of safety by caressing touch and self-talk. This of course is a way to activate the ventral vagus and SES! Active touch also conveys control of a situation which again means safety. Actually, using your face -, humming - , sucking -, swallowing - or eye muscles are all activating the vagus and SES.', 'd2cdc61ba185f54493d2c50b205108b9', '', '', '86.114.187.106', '', NULL, 'Kora-1018-d2cdc61ba1@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-1008-be3437f62b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1020, '16', 'forum', 0, 'verity', 1653136607, 79, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi All\r\nHere is a case study I am working on with a friend of mine, she is very open and happy for me to share this. If anyone has time please feel free to suggest additional insights comments and resources? \r\nThank you!! xxx', '5b960106381d8e4acddcd4f2ffea4a91', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1021, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'verity', 1653136772, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'sorry Kora, should I post this under task for lesson 18?', '41451be838a54752b35b88ee7c6ab917', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-1020-41451be838@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1022, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'ousaima', 1653159510, 4, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi everyone , Hi Kora , \r\nThis is an old case study that I did before we take constellations ! So plz neglect the exclamation in the documentation part regarding constellations  ! \r\n\r\nMETA-Health Case Study​​\r\nFor MHI’s database\r\nName of Practitioner: Ousaima Alghazou\r\nReviewed by:\r\nMedical history\r\n1. Client ID: OG2205004\r\n2. Age: 17 years old\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: left hand dominance\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Female\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):\r\n• Congested nose and a feeling of blockage in her left ear after having a walk with her parents as well as a feeling of irritation in her bronchioles with slight temperature, and throat pain .\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):\r\n• None\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\n• She first had the symptoms a day after she came back of a walk with her parents in a place that has lots of trees , she was longing to do this walk with them because she was stressed for many months with studying for her high school exams ,but during the walk she noticed a lots of flying insects and was shocked with the amount of flying insects over her dad’s and mom’s head she put her hands on her ears and was running to be away from insects but they just were all over around she couldn’t enjoy the walk anymore because she felt so scared of these insects , when she came back home she told her sister about it but her sister was laughing and used some words that she didn’t like and then she decided that each bad word from her sister will be told to her parents immediately so they will punish her sister for using these words because she used to hide her sister’s bad words from her parents but she decided not to do that anymore ! she said she was fed up from her sisters bad words and doesn’t want to hear them anymore especially that her sister never used them Infront of her parents and she was covering her back by not telling the parents.\r\n• She smelled the situation badly that brings cerebral cortex conflict /was it also being attacked? because she felt attacked, but the symptoms are cerebral cortex regeneration symptoms of the ear and nose as well as bronchioles\r\n \r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n  - Feels so scared and disgusted of the whole place.\r\n   -Feels disgusted from her sister’s words\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n - I hate insects! why do they exist!\r\n - I hate to hear bad words it stinks!\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n     -cerebral cortex (-,+) /new brain theme/territory invasion is it territory or fear of contact with the insects ??\r\n \r\nplz help if there’s any cerebellum old brain theme symptoms that can be noticed\r\n \r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n \r\n  -congestion in the nose and ears and swelling and feeling inflamed and even irritated in the bronchial tubes is a plus action of the regeneration phase of a cerebral cortex conflict .symptoms also turned to be runny nose with more pain in ears and bronchioles .it began in the left ear because of the words she heard from her sister /same eye level is that right or is it not relevant here ,the association I mean ?\r\n \r\n \r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS):\r\nNOTHING brought back the reaction\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour):\r\nstill didn’t understand it I’m looking forward to understand it in the session J\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):\r\n-I love walking outdoors but I hate insects I’ll not do it again\r\n-I love my sister but I hate that she uses bad words secretly .\r\n-I don’t want my sister to be punished but at the same time she has to be punished to stop using bad words secretly with me even if she was joking.\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:\r\n \r\nI can choose what to smell and what to hear and stay safe? plz help as I don’t know how to stop her freaking out when she sees even a butterfly, everything drives her crazy\r\n \r\n                                       \r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used:\r\nOrgan breathing , awareness\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:\r\na) Body & autonomic level:\r\n ?????????\r\nb) Environmental / social level:\r\n??????????she even hates pets and feel disgusted of\r\nc) Emotional / soul level:\r\n????????meditation ?\r\nd) Mental / spiritual level:\r\nPraying and grounding\r\n18. Follow-up:\r\n19. Additional Information / remarks:\r\nAmazingly in organ breathing held at the beginning of the session ,she described the pain in her throat as dark pink round small circles moving in a round motion quickly without stopping and they just don’t want to leave as I told her to talk to them and see what they want/here I thinks this is her body trying to tell her that this pain is because of the very small insects that she saw moving around her dad’s and mom’s head in a circular motion very quickly and the pain in her ears was orange in color and described it as dirt and when I asked her to talk to it and imagine that it talks she said I feel my ear is blocked and don’t want to hear what that orange dirt is trying to tell me /in reality that resemble the dirty words she heard from her sisters and her ears wants to block hearing that\r\n​THAT DIALOGUE I TELL THE CLIENT TO MAKE WITH THE COLORED SHAPED PAIN BRINGS A LOT OF THE CONFLICT FACT AND WHEN I CONFIRM WITH THE CLKIENT IT’S AMAZINGLY MATCHING WITH THEIR FEELINGS /I DON’T KNOW IF THE TECHNIQUE IS GOOD BUT IT’S WORKING! I DO IT ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE GOING INTO THE DECODING PROCESS. /PLZ ADVISE HERE IF I NEED TO FURTHER IMPROVE IT', 'faaeeee91ad7945b0d6fe4455aa201db', '', '', '64.65.99.235', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1011-faaeeee91a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(1024, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'ousaima', 1653161504, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'My comments were written in red above but unfortunately when I posted it , it all came out in black \r\n\r\nHere is another nose congestion case :) , also a previous case so plz neglect the question about constellation \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nName of Practitioner: Ousaima Alghazou\r\nReviewed by:\r\nMedical history\r\n1. Client ID: OG2205002\r\n2. Age: 33 years old\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Right hand dominance\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Female\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):\r\n• Congested nose with no other symptoms\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):\r\n• None\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\n• Congestion in nose developed a day after facing her uncle who visited her , she previously hated something that her uncle said about her and wanted in this visit to talk to him about it and discuss it but her father silenced her just in the moment she was about to speak to him, because he wanted her to respect her uncle ! she didn’t smell the situation well and hated that he even came to visit them after what he said .She felt disgusted of the whole situation and didn’t like how the situation smelled to her !\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n• Felt disgusted\r\n \r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n• I believe people who speak about you should be encountered with what they said even if it was your uncle because this don’t make their respect less.  \r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n    -cerebral cortex (-,+) new brain theme not smelling good /her nose blocked to help her not to smell the bad situation .\r\n \r\n \r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n  - Congestion of the nostrils as a plus response of a cerebral cortex new brain regeneration response /does association with the different eye level applies here  as it happened in her left nostril her uncle and dad are not at the same eye level ,is that right ?\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS):\r\n-No VAGOKS seen\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour):\r\n   -None\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):\r\n- I want to respect my Dad and listen to him but I don’t want to respect my uncle anymore .\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:\r\n  - When I don’t like what I smell I can change my place without having to disrespect others .  \r\n                                       \r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used:\r\n-Mindfulness and forgiveness.\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:\r\na) Body & autonomic level:\r\n????????plz help here.\r\n  \r\nb) Environmental / social level:\r\nI can’t think of any plz help \r\nc) Emotional / soul level:\r\n-Tapping .\r\nd) Mental / spiritual level:\r\n-Meditation and forgiveness\r\n18. Follow-up:\r\nCongestion was resolved in 4 days .\r\n19. Additional Information / remarks:', 'ddb0cd84cd35093559528bb420923e8b', '', '', '64.65.107.167', '', '', 'ousaima-1011-5078f95c36@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1025, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'ousaima', 1653163584, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Here is a new case study I worked on two weeks ago,\r\nAlso my comments were in red but I didn’t to delete them so everyone can benefit from the mistakes and questions too :) \r\nPlz everyone it’s good to share your points of views on each case so we can have a broader  vision , so plz when possible add your point of view:) \r\n Best regard to all\r\n\r\n\r\nMETA-Health Case Study​​\r\nFor MHI’s database\r\nName of Practitioner: Ousaima Alghazou\r\nReviewed by:\r\nMedical history\r\n1. Client ID: OG2205010\r\n2. Age: 31 years old\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Not clear /most probably right handed\r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Female\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):\r\n• Constant fear of loss that’s controlling all her life and ruining her joyful moments, always thinking that one of her daughters will die and she has lots of bad thoughts and always thinks of bad scenarios, she can’t enjoy life because this is controlling her life and make her feel some guilt and lots of fear! She thinks always that her daughters will die suddenly, she thinks that her good moments and meetings will end suddenly by death, that thinking began after travelling to another country with her husband ./this is a case for one of my relatives that has the same conditions that I have, got married and travelled to DUBAI/But here she didn’t have any physical symptoms to decode /she wanted to get rid of these thoughts that takes her to craziness sometimes and to severe sadness, so plz help here Kora if I wrote the symptoms correctly or how to describe what’s her condition ?\r\n• Her sleep is interrupted because of her kids interrupting it but she oversleeps if there is a chance to sleep, her appetite is good /no physical symptoms of fear of loss at all it’s only affecting her mood and her quality of life affecting her mind with lots of bad thoughts.\r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):\r\n• None\r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):\r\n• Her fear began when she fell down on the floor at home while her husband was at work, and she lost consciousness for an unknown period of time while her 1.5 years old daughter was around with no one with them because she lived in another country where she has no family around and no friends at all as a newly married bride who travelled with her husband to live in a new country, after that incidence she began thinking what if my daughter did something fatal while I’m still unconscious, she could have hurt herself and she could have died of something .\r\n• Her fear was increasing and growing with years as her sister died suddenly one year after that incidence, and her sister was so young.\r\n• Stress triggers were increasing her fear, bad news of death and loss through the years became her big stressors /her friend lost her baby by sudden death /a young social media influencer died suddenly and she was feeling so bad for him too.\r\n• Her husband and his family are people that have lots of fear of everything and she was also influenced by his fear especially after her falling incidence.\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions:\r\n• Fear of loss\r\n• Guilt especially if she punishes her kids /she’s always thinking what if they died after my punish.\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values:\r\n• I believe that I should be surrounded by family in my country to be safe if something urgent happened to me.\r\n• I believe my kids will die suddenly !\r\n• I believe my husband and his family affected my life with their fear.\r\n• I believe I’m not living the life that I wanted to live, I believe I should be working instead of only cooking and raising kids .\r\n• I believe working will solve my problem because I’ll be busy with work rather than with worrying about everything.\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:\r\n   -cerebral cortex (-,+),new brain theme /fear of loss\r\n but what where the minus responses in her case ? as it was only her thoughts ?\r\neven self devaluation and guilt here didn’t affect her muscles , everything was ok\r\n \r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states):\r\n \r\n??????????????????plz help how to describe in this section ?or can I say that this is a cerebral cortex constellation as it’s affecting her personality ?\r\n \r\n \r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS):\r\n-Hearing any bad news of loss or death or sickness\r\n-Witnessing some beautiful family occasions where all the family gathers .\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour):\r\n  -cerebral cortex constellation\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms):\r\n-none\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found:\r\n.\r\n• What’s over is over and nothing will change that, because there is no bad incidence in life, everything that happens in our lives come to teach us a lesson or to serve our development ,whether it went as we wanted to be or against our will ,either we saw the result now from where we are or later in life .\r\n• The person that enters your life is always the right one and so who leaves your life/who leaves our lives even by death leaves it because God wanted something good to him as well as to serve the emotional and social development of everyone he knew ,and it will refine their souls for a better goal to serve in life,as well as those who stays in your life.\r\n• What happened is meant to happen this way and wouldn’t have happened in any other way,and what happens to us is just the right thing to happen because every moment is the right moment.\r\n• Anytime something happens is the right time to happen either you were ready for it or not, your falling on the ground incidence wouldn’t have happened in any other way ,and your daughter was protected by GOD NOT YOU WHEN YOU WERE UNCONSCIOUS ,that mean that god is protecting you as well as your daughter because now you’re alive and talking to me .\r\n• Honor the moment .\r\n                                       \r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used:\r\n-Organ breathing ,mindfulness and awareness.\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis:\r\n \r\na) Body & autonomic level:\r\n-Being in the present moment AND One minute of deep breathing exercise.\r\nb) Environmental / social level:\r\nAll meta meanings are written and displayed in a place that she can read more than once during her day ,with rewarding herself each time she succeeds to integrate one of that meanings in her day.\r\nc) Emotional / soul level:\r\n-Meditation \r\nd) Mental / spiritual level:\r\n-praying and grounding\r\n18. Follow-up:\r\nConflict is resolved and client is enjoying her life again and that was confirmed with her after a week of her Meta session\r\n19. Additional Information / remarks:', 'abd52c99de7943052e850b9baa573f56', '', '', '64.65.77.197', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1011-abd52c99de@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1026, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'Lucia Franziska', 1653211612, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi Verity, would you mind to copy and paste for an easier read please. Thank you ', '34ee1228d083ee5e0a564eb2d04126f0', '', '', '92.8.175.71', '', NULL, 'Lucia Franziska-1020-34ee1228d0@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(1027, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'ousaima', 1653212274, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi Verity and everyone , \r\nI just finished reading your brilliant documentation, well done ! \r\nI just wanted to add that her ulcerative colitis seems to be a regeneration phase of a brain stem and midbrain old brain theme conflict / because ulcers come as a minus reaction and here in her case as you mentioned it was an old brain chunk conflict , gases and bloating also happens I guess as a bacterial fermentation product which confirms an old brain theme regeneration , bleeding also is a minus response but I wonder if appears as fresh blood in stool , So plz help here Kora ? I think bleeding will appear in stool dark because it’s bleeding from inside , but when fresh I guess it’s coming from the anal region near the end where may be some anal fissures of a healing peak of this on and off process that she’s constantly going through ! As well as hemorrhoids if present are also a healing peak of this  recurrent chunk conflict  .\r\n\r\nI want to add also to this anger aggressive behaviors as you mentioned I guess these are the result of cerebral cortex constellation that formed her personality since she was young and fearful of her dad , suppressing her anger towards her father’s actions formed her personality and she was triggered many times with partners I guess when they act like her father that was bringing her anger levels to uncontrollable levels ! And you can notice that when her last partners threatened her territory by bringing his kids and stepping on her boundaries and that brought her anger and she felt he cheated on her and that feelings could have aggravated her symptoms because it affects the rectal mucosal epithelium which brings more bleeding and adds to the colon bleeding ulcers , so there were two kinds of bleeding some from ulcers and some from anal mucosal epithelium! And both brings bleeding in regeneration and end with hemorrhoids ! \r\n\r\nI guess also she needs to find the balance to get rid of this aggressive anger ! You can do that with her when you explore together what trigger her aggressive bouts and what triggers  her calmness and peaceful state and find a balance between both :) \r\nI wonder if all agrees with what I shared , I just wanted to reflect my vision toward this case , may be wrong and may be right though:) \r\nYou did a great Job verity! I hope this will be helpful , and I’m sure you’re already optimizing your friend’s healing journey conditions in a perfect way !', '50c918ab40f283a120987bd55b209d93', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1020-50c918ab40@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1028, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'ousaima', 1653243594, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi everyone , \r\nThis is also the documentation form of the hair pulling ! \r\nPlz feel free to add your reflections and thoughts if you want to :) \r\n\r\nI just remembered that I can attach the file , hope i did attach it successfully!', '5242ad3f1d9863324248064cde716299', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', '', 'ousaima-1011-738eba2fc8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1029, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'verity', 1653245156, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi Ousaima!\r\nThanks so much for the insights and suggestions, It really helps to hear other peoples perspectives! I never looked at her anger that way, so this really helps. I also see her anger and her physical symptoms are definitely connected... the condition, like her anger is always just brewing under the surface then there is a sudden explosive angry outburst just as there is a volcanic eruption from her colitis.....She is so self aware and meditates and her triggers for anger seem to be when she cannot control a situation or someone does not act in the way she expects them to. I have a feeling this may be a fear based reaction, but yes, you\'re right, we could do more exploration together when I have a follow up with her. Thank you!! xx', 'b67cf9a071255df172fd65b7d38b4013', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-1020-b67cf9a071@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1030, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'ousaima', 1653292478, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Best of luck Verity, this is so helpful even for me , You’re doing a great Job ! Hope you’ll reach resolution with her soon . Keep going ! You have a great explorative way.', 'deb7badd599df6ffe14fb218bc6a5762', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1020-deb7badd59@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-1020-b67cf9a071@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1031, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'verity', 1653310272, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi Lucia, its over four pages long.. :)  should I e mail it to you? xx', '67b888f3ffb37c7a145ad57c40af4260', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-1020-67b888f3ff@www.meta-health.net', 'Lucia Franziska-1020-34ee1228d0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1032, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1653311642, 43, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'First case study eVe', 'This one is about __stomach ache__ \r\n\r\nI\'d be very happy to receive some feedback, thank you everyone!', 'a4154042d57428aa0065b2577516a6c6', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-a4154042d5@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1033, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Eve Kosko', 1653311693, 41, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Second case study eVe', 'The second is about __urin bladder infections__.\r\n\r\nI\'d be very happy to receive some feedback, thank you everyone!', '28c83a105e7a0788f845af9c6ff77deb', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-0-28c83a105e@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1034, '16', 'forum', 1032, 'ousaima', 1653330222, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: First case study eVe', 'Hi Eve ,\r\nThis is the same reply I put on our WhatsApp group , Just to share it with others here ,\r\nWell I think also there is a territorial side for this conflict , that you can also explore more with her , when she said this closeness is too much for her , I guess she felt like territory invasion or like she needs her own space and you can confirm with her more later ! \r\nThe other thing I noticed that we need to know more about the pain to distinguish the characteristics of her conflict , cramps ?bloating? Burning pain ? Anod so on . \r\nConstipation is definitely a chunk old brain conflict , she definitely isn’t digesting the whole situation , but does it get normal after she leaves her boyfriend! I guess you need to explore with her more about what could bring her more to safety? Or when does she feel normal ? To differentiate her stress triggers more \r\nAnd since it’s happening in the family ,we can explore family constellation too ! It may be a pattern running in the family and can be solved! \r\nThis is what I thought of, but plz take into consideration that it may be right and may be wrong :) you can also advise her to do some tapping and also to suggest more Meta Meanings to her to help her go through these feelings', '6aff1986a7ee9ca977618ca7c2ecd998', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1032-6aff1986a7@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-a4154042d5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1035, '16', 'forum', 1033, 'ousaima', 1653330384, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Second case study eVe', 'This is brilliant Eve , but I don’t know why territorial Always pops to my mind , Isn’t it a New brain theme ? \r\nI guess it has two sides too, because she felt attacked from one side of the conflict and the othet side was her territory invasion and frustration in love relationship with him which both are a cerebral cortex new brain theme , it definitely was regeneration but I’ll check the wiki for the bladder and come back to you and let me know what you-think too :)\r\nAnd yes looking at the diagnosis and antibiotic use that means it’s a bacterial infection ( regeneration of old brain theme) but remember that also misdiagnosis is possible and also it could be both viral and bacterial infections happening at the sane time holding the regeneration characteristics of both old brain and cerebral cortex , I definitely think of both here ! \r\n-Not safe / old brain \r\n-Being trapped in the footstool is also a territory invasion \r\n-she feels her boundaries are not respected and her personal space is invaded / this is a cerebral cortex territory invasion conflict\r\nI guess by exploring more with her you can tell if the territorial side of thr conflict is in regeneration too or still in the stress phase , it could be a stress new brain phase ( because you mentioned in her thoughts that she said I can’t give him this last bit of me) and a regeneration old brain ( because she had sex after six years ) \r\nOr could be as i told you before regeneration of both with a viral and bacterial infection that you can confirm with her going deeper into her feelings and beliefs as well as the characteristics of each phase.\r\n\r\nAlso in this case There’s a family constellation that could be explored I guess :)\r\n\r\nYou did a great job Eve in both, thanks for sharing these two very interesting case studies , it’s nice to share different point of views :)', 'bb82afe61447b3af617690d097d3ebdd', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1033-bb82afe614@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-28c83a105e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1036, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'Pr majda', 1653344107, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Kora, \r\n\r\nHi everyone,\r\n\r\nMy case study for this week.\r\n\r\nI\'m looking forward to hearing from you.\r\n\r\nBests,', 'fd0a19e2bb660fc832eb2a9e160835a5', '', '', '105.154.216.104', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-1011-fd0a19e2bb@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-07aa562587@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1037, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Walaa', 1653371967, 78, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case Study', 'Hello Kora and everyone,\r\n\r\nThis is a case I worked on recently.\r\nPlease find the attached file .. \r\nlooking forward for your advices and inputs. \r\n\r\nThank you so much for everyone who shared their cases they are all rich and informative and professional, I learned alot from you .. good job and keep it up', '49c14b73b8a4a7fc7ac6b72d18c81d91', '', '', '41.40.183.118', '', '', 'Walaa-0-7f1a3ae227@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1038, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'ousaima', 1653380471, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study', 'Hi walaa’ ,\r\nWhat an interesting case study , thanks for sharing !I think her problem was all about fear to lose her image in-front of people and that people will bite her by their looks and talks from behind! And that fear of this looming danger deteriorated her vision so she’ll not see anything her body was trying to help her not see any of these looks and to help her not see her daughter going through what she went through! \r\nShe was separated and was in stress phase of this Cerebral cortex fear of people’s looks! ( minus response, decrease in function )But when she took care of her husband before death that definitely improved her image in her opinion in front of  people and she began regeneration phase / but there came the overlapping stress trigger of her daughter’s problem which brought the same fear to her , she’s afraid again of her image and people looks and afraid of this looming danger that’s surrounding her again putting her in the same circumstances she lived before ! I guess that prolonged her regeneration phase and brought that loss of vision and KCT aggravated the symptoms ! \r\nThis is my vision towards this , hope it helps , may be wrong and may be right but I wanted to share it with all to have a broader vision by bringing our ideas towards each case !\r\nWell done walaa’, that’s really helpful ! I hope you can  reach resolution with her , I totally believe you can :)', 'b397b66f8839dd94cc630ca867d31fa6', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1037-b397b66f88@www.meta-health.net', 'Walaa-0-7f1a3ae227@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1039, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'Kora', 1653381066, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Hi Verity,\r\nthank you for the diligent description, you are a very observant analyst!\r\nFrom her own words \"I wont know what to do\r\nI wont have control\r\nI wont be able to look after myself and survive\r\nI am afraid to be uncomfortable and suffer a lack of resources\"\r\nwe read that her old brain is activated here, and this obviously are beliefs she adopted from her parents - so even these are something she hasn\'t yet processed enough to be able to let go, in terms of the colon. They are also in the way for her to stand up for her boundaries, and therefore they need to be reviewed.\r\n\r\nThen obviously, her bouts of aggression reflect a cortex constellation, as Ousaima already mentioned - the one on the level of \"function and role in the group\", about territorial anger and identity (we didn\'t talk about these constellations in particular yet, but this is a great example). Her fear of her father made her suppress the anger she felt underneath, so it comes out later in an uncontrolled way that\'s also frightening her and triggering feelings of guilt. This would certainly need self-forgiveness and a way to express aggression in a safe way - through art, voice or theatre for example which wants some space in her life - or even exercise, dance or martial arts?\r\n\r\nHer bingeing makes me think of another related issue, and that\'s disgust/resistance which plays out in the energy distribution, the pancreas hormones insulin and glucagon!. She felt such a resistance towards her partner when he let her down and brought in his kids into the house. She might also trigger these feelings about herself, in her helpless guilt carrying the \"curse\" of anger and aggression.\r\nSo having her confirm that would give us the strategy how to make peace possible and resolve the pattern.', '6376769107d065d226c7afbdba6798fe', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1020-6376769107@www.meta-health.net', 'verity-0-5b96010638@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1040, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'ousaima', 1653381383, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study', 'I wanted to add something also regarding shortage  blood supply to the brain , I found it totally relevant and reasonable to her case . Less blood supply to the sensory cortex I guess in her case sense thd eyesight is affected  / territorial cerebral cortex that goes very well with her fear of this looming danger of other’s looks', '863ef7a36dd6282a63b652eadcdb5d27', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1037-863ef7a36d@www.meta-health.net', 'Walaa-0-7f1a3ae227@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1041, '16', 'forum', 1022, 'Kora', 1653382847, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthe dialogue is a great tool once the client feels enough trust to play it! This reveals you where inner conflicts are and may provide an opportunity for change, and measuring it.\r\nFrom her symptoms I read the cortex conflict, not wanting to sense and to deal with the disturbance. I guess that she, having been under her exam stress during a period, is still high-strung and overly sensitive. The episode with her sister also shows a longing for everything being in order. During that time, she seems to have been in a constellation of disgust and a skin theme (epidermis or dermis) which creates a \"((Endocrine - Pancreas - Alpha Islet Cells|hygienemania))\"?\r\nI assume that when she calms down more from her school situation and overwhelm, this will resolve by itself. If not, you should take up the disgust theme with her, and the attached values and beliefs.', '48cc849de664b9bb705c0062aec0232c', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1022-48cc849de6@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1011-faaeeee91a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1042, '16', 'forum', 1032, 'Kora', 1653384233, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: First case study eVe', 'Hi Eve,\r\nwell-done analysis! Yes, from her symptoms I\'d also read a brain stem level conflict, it\'s too much for her to digest at one time, as she herself stated that she likes to eat only small bites! This gives her a strategy to chunk big input down by focusing on one step or detail at a time, and that\'s the way that the show can keep going on!\r\nThis insight (while needing her own pace, she is moving forward. When taking on too much, she probably isn\'t!) can also resolve the inner conflict \"it\'s too much - but the show must go on\" which are forces pulling in opposite directions...', '4ac67caefd4088b650395c4466716e30', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1032-4ac67caefd@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-a4154042d5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1043, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'ousaima', 1653384667, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Majda , \r\nThat’s a perfect analysis thanks for sharing , I just wanted to add that her knee osteoarthritis was a self worth conflict as you mentioned because she was dreaming of another bright life and she failed to fulfill her ambitions by these two unfair marriages , she felt that she doesn’t deserve that and it seems that she was regenerating but her regeneration symptoms were aggravated with her brother and mother loss , she felt Isolated I guess ( and you can confirm that with her ) because it seems that her brother was supporting her in this painful journey and she lost that support by his death , \r\nAll what she’ve been through formed her personality and this is a cerebral cortex constellation that brought this bipolar disorder to her personality, because she was torn between two personalities through her life , the ambitious girl who loves life and has lots of dreams and the oppressed one who was obligated to marry an elderly man who buried all her dreams , which later formed her personality disorder ! Triggered by the memory of her brother’s death date where she remembers his support to her dreaming little girl personality and reminds her on how he rescued her from that oppressed little young girl married to that elderly man !\r\nThanks for sharing this Majda ! It was brilliant!', 'ade608059c9936194ef612869e0fd166', '', '', '149.109.103.33', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1011-ade608059c@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-1011-fd0a19e2bb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1044, '16', 'forum', 1033, 'Kora', 1653384967, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Second case study eVe', 'What a history you pulled up, Eve!\r\nThe connection to breaches of her boundaries are totally clear, also the origin, therefore it would be useful to revisit her past and transform the imprint!\r\nOf course, in the present she may want to check the values of her relationship with her partner. Did she, after 6 years, give in without willingness, or did anything change her mind? Because we\'d usually expect a relief or resolution to have happened before the onset of symptoms.', '71615913bb351487a6f57a5aa82c8d40', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1033-71615913bb@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-28c83a105e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1045, '16', 'forum', 1033, 'Kora', 1653385291, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Second case study eVe', 'Yes it\'s rather a new brain theme about boundaries that I would see here as well. Bacteria can appear in both cases.', 'a1441149245d198f834081aca65d8c74', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1033-a144114924@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1033-bb82afe614@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1046, '16', 'forum', 1036, 'Kora', 1653398562, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Majda,\r\nthat\'s an intriguing case of new brain constellations which I would like to ask some questions to clearly understand:\r\n*the onset of the depression and the osteoarthritis almost coincide (20/21 years ago). Was it then that her mother and/or her brother had died?\r\nThe manic and depressive episodes would tell me that this incident was impacting the second hemisphere, and from then on the scale is swinging.\r\nThe first territorial conflict was the forced marriage against her will. Then there were several other conflicts - the boundary breach by her mother-in-law, the infidelity (of her second husband?), but her brother had been her faithful resource. His death weighed heaviest, and this was a shock-fright - a \"female type conflict\", yet causing depression, which means the conflict weight is more on the right brain side. \r\nYou see here what I discussed in our previous class - that these male and female themes can apply for both hemispheres.\r\n\r\n*When she gets manic, how is that expressed - what is she manic about?\r\nIt may be possible that her chronic self-devaluation is related to that...\r\n\r\nObviously, the abandonment syndrome belongs to her pattern, as she suffered the loss of her main resource - her brother, and never got over this.\r\nSo, in order to heal, the first thing must be to address that. She found a very good META-meaning: “I mourn and I accept my grief, life goes on and I enjoy the present”. I\'m sure she can need help to achieve this, and tapping will be a good start!\r\nThe other META-meaning “I deserve happiness, love and respect” is true for allowing herself to overcome self-devaluation. At the same time, it seems to be dependent on that others show her this love and respect, which may or may not be the case. In my view, she wants to love and respect herself and her history first, it\'s easier for others to follow! It also might make her feel less obedient and more self-sufficient.\r\nWould you agree?', 'aa4daea244a5fb28e239c688d2641668', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1036-aa4daea244@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-1011-fd0a19e2bb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1047, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'Kora', 1653401565, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study', 'That\'s a fascinating case Walaa, and well-documented as far!\r\nBoth eye issues are cortex-related, and to me they seem to be driven by territorial conflicts of social position and autonomy.\r\nAccording to ophtalmologist Dr Kwesi, the retina is connected to feelings of guilt and shame - this seems to fit her case. A tear in the retina may appear during stress phase (tissue minus) but also during regeneration A (swelling) or healing peak.\r\nShe has seen her daughter go down the \"wrong way\" of a bad relationship (just like her own), and divorce means a social downgrade to her. \r\nHer hypertension (sympathetic stress reaction) shows it put her into severe stress. The vertigo is often a sign of the fear of losing control (\"to see someone fall\" according to Dr Hamer, which I\'d take figuratively here).\r\nThe cataract is a visual separation, similar to losing the color in life, and it develops in stress phase.\r\n\r\nInsufficiency in blood supply to the brain is a function reduction and seems like chronic repair cycles of the blood vessels to me, reflecting her fight with life and marriage?\r\n\r\nTo focus on her (and also her daughter\'s) autonomy seems like a good direction, and to discard the doubts about right and wrong. What if we never make a fault, because it\'s the only thing that could happen?\r\nHer beliefs \"It’s important to be totally independent \" and \"How people see you and what they say about you is important and you have to keep a good image and make an effort for this.\" are a mismatch. How can one be both totally independent while being dependent on other people\'s opinion? This is something to review with her.\r\n\r\nCan she imagine what maintains joy and contentedness in her life, apart from \"normalty\"? The META-meanings suit her perfectly, but she may need help to put them into practice...', '4362d05f057ef4482e65a9c840a653a3', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1037-4362d05f05@www.meta-health.net', 'Walaa-0-7f1a3ae227@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1048, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'Kora', 1653401665, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nvery good thoughts on the case :-)', '750263bec8153a1f25f83ca903191ca4', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1037-750263bec8@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1037-b397b66f88@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1049, '16', 'forum', 1025, 'Kora', 1653402241, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthis is a case of the anxiety constellation, the frontal relays (not territorial) of the \"((Endocrine -Thyroid - Archaic Excretory Ducts|thyroid ducts))\" and the ((Respiratory - Branchial Arches Pharyngeal Ducts|pharyngeal arches)). You often see no physical symptoms here, although it can be related to thyroid dysfunction. Pharyngeal arches are an embryological structure from which the SES organs develop.\r\nThe themes are helplessness (powerlessness) and \"frontal fear\" which means danger ahead.\r\nThe META-meanings and therapy plan are spot-on! :-)', '0a11485d3a51e0423e4dccaafa0100e2', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1025-0a11485d3a@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1011-abd52c99de@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1050, '16', 'forum', 1033, 'Eve Kosko', 1653402377, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Second case study eVe', 'Yeah I definitely have to explore those topics more. Hang in there! ;-)', '26a9f8ef37d2fa92cd4afd3dd73b3c40', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-1033-26a9f8ef37@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-0-28c83a105e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1051, '16', 'forum', 1032, 'Eve Kosko', 1653402584, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: First case study eVe', 'Thank you Kora!\r\n\r\nDo you think this case study could be used for the certification?', '74b3eff4cbdb4d143e7e88af11df821d', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-1032-74b3eff4cb@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1032-4ac67caefd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1052, '16', 'forum', 1024, 'Kora', 1653403026, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nregarding point 11: she doesn\'t perceive them to be on the same eyelevel at that point, which is why she had that conflict in the first place (otherwise she wouldn\'t have cared whether she was disrespectful or not), just as in the META-meaning she found.\r\nI think in such a case, grounding is a good exercise for the autonomic and social levels. She wants to stand her ground in a natural way without \"fight energy\".\r\nWell done!', '90378d7b15fa8a93a8a6fc2b40c1b7da', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1024-90378d7b15@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1011-5078f95c36@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1053, '16', 'forum', 1032, 'Kora', 1653403466, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: First case study eVe', 'Yes it can. Perhaps you can elaborate a bit on the therapy plan, what can help her to chunk down .-)', '7a05876a1b623a9685aa6d14556c169a', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1032-7a05876a1b@www.meta-health.net', 'Eve Kosko-1032-74b3eff4cb@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1054, '16', 'forum', 1032, 'Eve Kosko', 1653404525, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Aw: Re: First case study eVe', 'Okay will do, thank you Kora!', '389ca8eb830db659fabea7da399e6b8e', '', '', '170.245.165.61', '', NULL, 'Eve Kosko-1032-389ca8eb83@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1032-7a05876a1b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1055, '16', 'forum', 1036, 'Pr majda', 1653422685, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Thank you Kora for your help, \r\n\r\nI agree with your analysis. \r\nI would be able to ask more detail.\r\n\r\nDo you think that this case could be available for the certification? \r\nI will deepen with your remarks and those of Oussaima whom I thank at the same time.\r\n\r\nThank you so much and enjoy your trip(:biggrin:)', '3d27f9347fa60bedcee6dc318c4ae320', '', '', '41.143.35.0', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-1036-3d27f9347f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1036-aa4daea244@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1056, '16', 'forum', 1011, 'Pr majda', 1653422822, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Thank you so much Oussaima,\r\n\r\nI appreciate your encouragement and remarks.', '4a3590ffd934dc8bd0e817a1855561d0', '', '', '41.143.35.0', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-1011-4a3590ffd9@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1011-ade608059c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1057, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1653424906, 175, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Let\'s make a list: which tools do you use \r\n•	to calm someone down,\r\n•	to direct attention, \r\n•	to create safety, \r\n•	to create distance, \r\n•	for resourcing\r\n•	for balancing?\r\nWhere do you lack tools? Let\'s help each other!', '92fec2f9f4234e0841ea98beac6828a5', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-92fec2f9f4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1058, '16', 'forum', 1055, 'Kora', 1653429291, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 18: Case studies!', 'Yes of course the study qualifies for the level 2 exam! :-)', '7f159fc37012fde8a837eba93066552d', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1055-7f159fc370@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-1036-3d27f9347f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1059, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'Walaa', 1653483238, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study', 'Thank you Kora .. your remarks made me put the pieces together as there were some points I couldn’t put together.. Now the picture is clearer.\r\n\r\nI’ll revise the phrases with her again as you advised..\r\n\r\n', 'c0314b5bd71941e07d48e87455b9d743', '', '', '41.40.183.118', '', NULL, 'Walaa-1037-c0314b5bd7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1037-4362d05f05@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1060, '16', 'forum', 1037, 'Walaa', 1653483537, 3, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case Study', 'Hello Kora,\r\n\r\nPlease I want to ask about the brain thalami .. \r\nI need to know what relays in them, which organs and what are the conflicts affecting \r\nI couldn’t get it .. would you please help me in this or tell me a source where I can read about it ', '7d65de078aea152f63061284879dddb0', '', '', '41.40.183.118', '', NULL, 'Walaa-1037-7d65de078a@www.meta-health.net', 'Walaa-0-7f1a3ae227@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1061, '16', 'forum', 1060, 'Kora', 1653508177, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study', 'Hello Walaa,\r\nthis is a good question!\r\nThis is what Dr Hamer said about it: [https://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/brain.html#Thalamus_Top|https://learninggnm.com/SBS/documents/brain.html#Thalamus_Top]\r\nI think this is referring rather to the hypothalamus that directs the autonomic nervous system and hormonal system, while the thalamus is rather relaying sensory input to the cerebral cortex and to consciousness.\r\nThis is what contemporary science finds about the thalamus: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus]\r\n\r\nHope that helps!', '747ef8a161ca7fad1a3b710e046b18aa', '', '', '91.8.75.15', '', NULL, 'Kora-1060-747ef8a161@www.meta-health.net', 'Walaa-1037-7d65de078a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1062, '16', 'forum', 1020, 'verity', 1653557183, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case Study - Ulcerative Colitis Amanda - please kindly input any observations or suggestions :)', 'Oh wow!\r\nThank you so much Kora! I really appreciate this and it makes so much sense. I will be meeting with her again this weekend so I will definitely discuss the points you mentioned with her and update her case file.', 'ee073f1a2197b05525f86f6343c6edcd', '', '', '92.16.96.100', '', NULL, 'verity-1020-ee073f1a21@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1020-6376769107@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1063, '16', 'forum', 1057, 'ousaima', 1653824573, 14, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Hi Kora , \r\n Here’s a conclusion of tools I hope they’re correct : \r\n\r\n1. How to calm someone : \r\n     - breathing exercises, box breathing method.\r\n     - Grounding \r\n     - stimulating the vagus nerve by some eye-muscle      exercise, singing, listening to calming voices that you like, meditation, going out with a good friend, using anchors, chewing gum or making humming sounds , washing your face and hands with cold water .\r\n\r\n2. To direct attention :\r\n     - make some kind of confusion to the brain by : \r\n         a) motion and changing the physical position.\r\n         b) activate sensations like Aromatic smells ,\r\n             Some sounds , touch , to remind them of \r\n             what they feel when they’re unconscious and \r\n             awaken their feelings  to what it feels like\r\n          C)exercise and engage them with a safe\r\n               movement plan that fits their current health          \r\n              state.\r\n           D) connect them to events that they already \r\n                went through and were able to go out of ! \r\n           E) Direct their attention to the moment they’re \r\n                now in .\r\n3. To create a distance:\r\n     - put some healthy boundaries and engage them with some “self- Time” activities  where they nourish their skills and develop .\r\n\r\n4. For resourcing:\r\n    -Awaken their inner resources by reminding them   \r\n      of things they already know and good at .\r\n   - Use some anchors.\r\n   - Use some outer resources and get help from \r\n       Others .\r\n\r\n5.For Balancing:\r\n    - identify what triggers their manic states and what triggers their depressive state and try to find the balance between both .\r\n\r\nPlz kora help in more tools to use in 3,4,5 and plz correct me in the previous ones .\r\n\r\nThanks in advance :)', 'd68fc5e244390c84f69faeddd55eeeb8', '', '', '95.186.76.63', '', '', 'ousaima-1057-97ac5b70ed@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-92fec2f9f4@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1064, '16', 'forum', 1063, 'Kora', 1653860508, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Hi Ousaima,\r\nthat\'s a good collection for the start!\r\nWhich ones have you tried successfully, or what are your favourites?\r\n\r\nFor to create distance, I also can use a breathing exercise, or the Eagle position, or an imaginary shield... \r\nFor resourcing, we can use modeling/mirror neurons if the client believes to lack the resource. Modeling is learning by imitation, that is close observation and imagining lively how this attitude feels.\r\nFor balancing, we can activate the other brain hemisphere, or alternate between them like in bilateral movements (walking, dancing, paddling, juggling...), especially when crossing the midline of the body. There are amazing exercizes with balls, excellent training for kids! [https://www.bal-a-vis-x.com/the-exercises] \r\n\r\nAnybody who wants to share more tools and methods?', '7cd7806d7222a78e5221ce83db7c1291', '', '', '86.114.209.138', '', NULL, 'Kora-1063-7cd7806d72@www.meta-health.net', 'ousaima-1057-97ac5b70ed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1065, '16', 'forum', 1063, 'ousaima', 1653927934, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Hi Kora ,\r\nI found that I used all the categories in the section of directing attention , all of them were so useful ! I used them with some of the case studies I worked on! And I found that through my healing journey my body was naturally and unconsciously directing me to use them without any plan , that proves how intelligent our body could be, trying to direct us and trying to speak to us in all the ways it can , but sometimes we’re the ones who don’t listen :) \r\n\r\nRegarding The calming methods , I used to do the breathing exercises so often under supervision of my physiotherapist but even in the most stressful moments it was so hard to regulate breathing, It wasn’t so beneficial for me but I found going out with a positive happy friend was always of a great benefit for me , as well as some of the case studies I worked with! \r\nThose were my favorite :)', 'b5af2fbda71bda9a20c0f061df545e01', '', '', '95.185.84.68', '', NULL, 'ousaima-1063-b5af2fbda7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-1063-7cd7806d72@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1066, '16', 'forum', 1057, 'Basma Emadeldien', 1653943715, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', '\r\n\r\nDear kora,\r\n \r\nthese are some tools I think it will help in these situations and if I am not right kindly correct it to me\r\n \r\n• to calm someone down, we can use breathwork, music, posture, movement.\r\n• to direct attention, we can use Pattern Interrupt.\r\n• to create safety ,we can use stimulation or activation of ventral vagal state\r\n• to create distance,????? I don\'t know and kindly help me to understand this .\r\n• for resourcing we can use anchoring ,meditation ,grounding\r\n• for balancing we can use Kinesiology, brain gym exercises.', 'addf182218265fdf0bb29cafc6daf513', '', '', '197.36.187.57', '', NULL, 'Basma Emadeldien-1057-addf182218@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-92fec2f9f4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1067, '16', 'forum', 1066, 'Kora', 1653946827, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Dear Basma,\r\nthank you for your list! Which of those have you tried out in your practice - and did it work well?\r\n\r\nFor distancing, think what we want this for: generally when we lack overview, or when we are overwhelmed or triggered. A pattern interrupt can open us up for taking a step back or to hover over the scene. Our imagination can then augment and regulate the distance to the point where we feel safe enough to take in the whole picture.\r\nThere is actually even a constellation that attempts to achieve this for us - it\'s the \"levitating\" or \"floating\" constellation created on the level of territorial fears by the larynx and the bronchi relays. This constellation brings us to higher spheres! It is mentioned in Eybl\'s book on page 384.', '172bab8eb8d66c51300d6930b689a4d0', '', '', '86.114.223.87', '', NULL, 'Kora-1066-172bab8eb8@www.meta-health.net', 'Basma Emadeldien-1057-addf182218@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1068, '16', 'forum', 1057, 'Pr majda', 1653996510, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Hi Kora and everyone!\r\n\r\nThank you Oussaima and Basma for sharing your tools.\r\n\r\nI found some similitude with yours. In add:\r\n\r\nI espacially tried and found some strategies very helpfull in my case and with my clients:\r\n1- to calm someone down: express feelings by speaking or writing (keep the daily coaching diary), empathy and kindness (stimulation of the ventral vagus verve), repetition of postive self talk and affirmation using NLP and anchors, / acceptance, \r\n\r\n2- to direct attention: Using NLP and self awarness, being here and now, focus on the breathning movement, heart beats, direct attention consciously to a point or physical object in the space around, direct attention during the prayer (for muslims)..\r\n\r\n3- for creating a distance: Chunking up, analysing the feelings and beliefs consciously (writing), using outer ressources and talking with others to understand the situation in other perspective (coachs, helpfull and conident people), Visualization, calming down (meditation breathning exercices, use silence self time during the morning as a ritual..\r\n\r\n4- For resourcing: making a list of inner-strenghts, gratitude, ask help (outer resources), recognize our limits and accept them, learn from other (role model), Daily vacation (I mean a morning ritual including some physical activity, stretching, reading...)\r\n\r\n5- For balancing: I don\'t now if is it correct, I use swimming (the movement that stimulate both hemispheres)\r\n\r\nDo you fing these logical?\r\n\r\nBests,', '6d8b156807646f0410735d381b1a3722', '', '', '105.158.93.227', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-1057-6d8b156807@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-92fec2f9f4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1069, '16', 'forum', 0, 'Pr majda', 1654083249, 60, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case study (constellation and overlapping conflicts)', 'Age: 37\r\n3. Handedness / Side dominance: Right. \r\n4. Sex / current hormonal state: Men\r\n5. Description of symptom/s  (e.g. change  in function, sensitivity or tissue, medical diagnosis):  \r\nChronic constipation (2014) evolved into an anal fissure in 2016. The patient was operated on in 2018. Since then, a small improvement (frequency 1 time / day) but difficulty to expulse when the need is felt. The patient describes spending an average of 30 to 40 min before being able to do it with the help of a suppository (rectal lubricant).\r\n2nd recent symptomatology: In 2022, he had sudden lumbar pain following a sporting activity. The imagery investigation showed two herniated lumbar discs. A High back pain occurred a week ago that decreased after 2 days. \r\n6. Medication and treatments (if any):  anxiolytic (during 2 years), anti-inflammatory for the back pain, anal lubricant. \r\n7. Background/personal history (timeline e.g. significant emotional experiences, UDIN, resolutions):  In 2013: abrupt romantic separation with feeling of loss of love and meaning of the life, event that the patient describes as difficult to digest then depression. In 2016, death of the father by digestive cancer and therefore a heavy responsibility felt: managing the family and especially the mother with whom the patient still lives (the only one, the other siblings have made their one family), did not cry during the death, and immediately afterwards had difficulty digesting and burping). The same year, he met another girl, ask for her hand, and the symptomarology disappeared but failed again (shock). Since having difficulty pushing and expulsing (constipation). Became aggressive and violent (personality character) with the mother, the girls in general, feeling of absence from one\'s own territory (expressed I feel like a roundabout of all the problems of the family), fear of communication with the mum, need for freedom and of territory. The patient is a military and this is also a part of his feeling of lack of freedom and distance.\r\n8. Connected feelings / emotions: “I need my space and distance”\r\n9. Connected thoughts / beliefs / values: “I am not free”, “I need love and clean space”, “I have a heavy responsibility towards my mother and the family”,\r\nInterpretation\r\n10. Concerned Organ tissues / brain layers and theme/s:. \r\n	Difficulty digesting burping and pushing: digestive system, old brain /Brain stem (endoderm), chunck conflict (indigective anger or uggly elimination conflict), left side (expulsion: I need to get rid of it)\r\n	Anal fissure: outer anal sphincter (Cerebral meddula): identity and territory marking?? \r\n	Aggression - character of the personality: cerebral cortex constellation (insula, left side) \r\n	Lumbar hernia (cartilage): musculoskel system (cerebral medulla/selfworth them)\r\nSo: old brain and new brain overlapping with a CC constellation\r\n• Chunk conflict left side then:\r\nTerritorial conflict left side (superficial rectum and anal area)\r\nIdentity quest and social anger\r\nAnd finally selfworth theme\r\n11. Symptom classification (phases model, autonomic states): \r\n	       Constipation is an underfunction, the patient describes that he has had an improvement after his operation (resolution may be of the conflict) and has become aware of the importance of adopting a change in lifestyle (diet, physical activity), he sleeps better, so currently he is in the regeneration phase for his main digestive conflict.\r\n	The recent lumbar pain can be a HP and the patient in the regeneration phase B for his secondary conflict\r\n	There is an overlapping between 2 chronic conflicts which are at the origin of a CC constellation and personality traits and behaviours.\r\n12. Stress triggers or “tracks” (VAKOGS): the relationship with a girl (hence the patient chose to avoid girls), rejection in a relationship, contact and communication with the mother (he prefers her to be far away even if he loves her very much) .\r\n13. Active constellation/s involved? (personality, typical behaviour): \r\n     Aggression and violence (loss of social rank, social anger)\r\ndecrease the release of testosterone during the depression phase, then activation with a tendency to violence (manic)\r\n14. Conflicting values/priorities? (also “secondary gain” by symptoms): \r\n­	love and protect the mother and at the same time want to have distance from her\r\n­	love to have a romantic relationship and at the same time violence and rejection of girl\r\n15. META-meaning / healing wisdom found: \r\n“I am free”, “I am happy” I love myself as I am, more than before” “I deserve to be loved as I want”\r\nMETA-Health Practice\r\n16. Intervention method/s used: planification of a coaching strategy including: \r\n	Recognize psychological profile \r\n	Back to safety state\r\n	fixer de nouveaux objectifs dans la vie\r\n	 Explorez les ressources internes et externes\r\n	Balance hemispheres \r\n	Create a new accpeted environnement to reach the goals\r\n17. Self-care/therapy plan, based on analysis: recognize personality traits, accept and forgive, eat a balanced diet (rich in fibers), drink enough water, adapted physical activity\r\na) Body & autonomic level: activate the ventral vagal nerves: prayer, relaxation, swimming (work both hemispheres)\r\nb) Environmental / social level: establish new relationship with the mother, take acceptable distance, consciously establish relation with the other gender. \r\nc) Emotional / soul level: forgive yourself, accept yourself, affirmations of meta-meaning, breath to create distance\r\nd) Mental / spiritual level: prayer and direct attention to god. Feeling strong from the inside \r\n18. Follow-up: in 3 weeks\r\n19. Additional Information / remarks: the patient is enrolled in a higher school in engineer and he also plans to change careers (feel free regarding his job)', 'dd29137940431a82113f901638d82a25', '', '', '196.84.60.107', '', NULL, 'Pr majda-0-dd29137940@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(1070, '16', 'forum', 1068, 'Kora', 1654174325, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Task lesson 19: list of tools!', 'Hello Majda,\r\nthank you for adding to the list which I find quite impresive by now! (:biggrin:)', '91bc96973300cb821734bdc28bba45ab', '', '', '188.238.39.109', '', NULL, 'Kora-1068-91bc969733@www.meta-health.net', 'Pr majda-1057-6d8b156807@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
