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(1, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1482063734, 54, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Bylaws', 'The bylaws are the basic rules how IMMA shall work. The complete document is attached here.\r\n\r\nSome relevant facts about the roles in the organisation:\r\n\r\n^Section 3.2. Powers.%%% \r\nThe activities and assets of the corporation shall be managed and controlled by the board of directors which shall exercise all the powers of the corporation.^\r\n\r\n^Section 3.9. Power and duties of the board of directors.%%% \r\nThe property and business of a corporation shall be controlled and managed by a board of directors; however, the board may delegate duties to the officers of the corporation to the full extent allowed by law.^\r\n\r\n^Section 4.4. President.%%% \r\nIn the absence of the chairman of the board, the president shall preside at all meetings of the shareholders and directors at which he is present. He shall perform such duties as the board of directors may prescribe and shall see that all orders and resolutions of the board are carried into effect. ~np~[...]~/np~^\r\n\r\n^Section 4.6. Secretary and Assistant Secretaries.%%% \r\nThe secretary shall keep or cause to be kept a record of all meetings of the shareholders and the board of directors and record all votes and the minutes of all proceedings in a book to be kept for that purpose. He shall give, or cause to be given, notice of all meetings of the shareholders and special meetings of the board of directors, and shall perform such other duties as may be prescribed by the board of directors or president, under whose supervision he shall be. ~np~[...]~/np~^\r\n\r\n^Section 4.7. Treasurer and Assistant Treasurers.%%% \r\nThe treasurer shall have the custody of the corporate funds and securities, shall keep full and accurate accounts of receipts and disbursements in books belonging to the corporation, shall deposit all moneys and other valuable effects in the name and to the credit of the corporation in such depositories as may be designated by the board of directors and shall perform such other duties as the board of directors may prescribe. ~np~[...]~/np~^', '5a226e9bf7b9a653f569bc7c280ba1be', '', '', '88.10.61.34', '', '', 'Thorsten-0-496909cccd@www.meta-health.eu', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(2, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1482104895, 7, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Guide for charities', 'The California Attorney General has published a guide for charities (as attached here). 60 pages of useful reading with practical FAQ sections for each chapter.', 'a9f9e839b68c368a580bd190f89bc84b', '', '', '83.55.95.89', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-a9f9e839b6@www.meta-health.eu', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(3, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1482196380, 28, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Which way does official mail go?', 'Investigating IMMA\'s public address I found it to be the UPS Store in Marina del Rey:\r\n\r\n[https://marinadelrey-ca-5581.theupsstorelocal.com/]\r\n\r\nThe only thing we know for certain is that we have the mailbox #716. IMMA is offically notified when authorities\' mail arrives in this mailbox, regardless of whether it is forwarded to any representative of IMMA or not. This includes the __risk of missing official deadlines to react__.\r\n\r\nThe services of the UPS Store (as published on their website) are:\r\n\r\n^ \r\n*Receipt notification: We can even text or email you when your mail or packages arrive\r\n*24-hour mailbox access: Pick up your mail when it\'s convenient for you\r\n*Full-service mail and package receiving services: Never miss a delivery\r\n*Package acceptance from all common shipping carriers\r\n*Mail holding and forwarding:  Peace of mind knowing your mail is held in a secure location or can be forwarded to you wherever you are\r\n*Call-in mail check\r\n*After hours package pickup^\r\n\r\nThe last three services can cost additional fees beyond the __regular fee of min. 324 USD / year__. There\'s no service listed to scan mail and forward it by e-mail.\r\n\r\nSo the first things to be checked is:\r\n\r\n1.) Is there actually any mail stored in the mailbox?\r\n2.) To which address will mail be forwarded? Johannes? Kwesi? Daryl?\r\n\r\nGenerally the UPS Store seems not to offer the optimal solution for IMMA. For my personal opinion a __registered agent in California for 125 USD per year__ might be the better alternative:\r\n\r\n[http://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/california-registered-agent.html]\r\n\r\nAnd IMMA would get a local point of contact for some advices regarding bureaucratic problems.', 'f17cd1ef14092042a7b230ab48e45ddd', '', '', '88.10.59.134', '', '', 'Thorsten-0-aa17f95bbd@www.meta-health.eu', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(4, '2', 'forum', 3, 'Kora', 1482276128, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Which way does official mail go?', 'Here is the email communication from Thorsten, Lars & Anton pasted in:\r\n\r\n^I think we have to inform us, what Daryl does for us for 450 dollar-\r\nLG Anton\r\n\r\nAm 19.12.2016 um 11:08 schrieb Lars Mygind:\r\n IF WE ARE NOT happy with the Marina del rey office we can easily change\r\n to http://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/non-profit.html\r\nLars\r\n\r\n On 18. dec. 2016, at 02.29, Thorsten Krüger [META-Health 4 U]  wrote:\r\n\r\nDear all,\r\nplease check this site, if there\'s a faster way to revive IMMA in California:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/reinstate-revive-california-corporation.html\r\nAnd worth to consider if IMMA should have a registered agent in California for 125 USD per year:\r\n http://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/california-registered-agent.html\r\n\r\n Best wishes\r\nThorsten^', 'e1eeb0a2260e21858bdaede36191c35b', '', '', '83.42.134.186', '', NULL, 'Kora-3-e1eeb0a226@www.meta-health.eu', 'Thorsten-0-aa17f95bbd@www.meta-health.eu', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(5, '2', 'forum', 3, 'Kora', 1482277133, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Aw: Which way does official mail go?', 'Dear Anton,\r\nyou are right. We have to inform us what specifically Daryl does (tax accountant), and what service specifically the office in Marina Del Rey does for IMMA (mailbox). The office is in CA, and Daryl is in Wyoming.\r\nWe need to know who takes care of the mail, scans it and sends the info to whom. \r\n\r\nIt should be sent by email to admin@meta-health.org\r\n\r\nIs Astrid contacting Daryl and the office to find out?\r\n\r\n/Kora', '82b2a531636160534d1679a9336986d1', '', '', '83.42.134.186', '', '', 'Kora-3-361ee7099d@www.meta-health.eu', 'Kora-3-e1eeb0a226@www.meta-health.eu', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(6, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1483145371, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Back to good standing - step by step', 'Reading the emails, which came in during our X-mas holidays, it seems to me that we\'re going the wrong way. \r\n\r\nGood standing at the Secretary of State is the first step, good standing at FTB the second. This means, we don\'t have to wait until the tax problem is solved, before registering the new directors / new officers officially. Quite the reverse: It\'s a formal mistake not to register the new directors / new officers now.\r\n\r\nAnd we have got another problem: We need to communicate with the Californian authorities without knowing until now, who is receiving all our official mail in the end.\r\n\r\nAfter hours of investigation, there are in my opionion three logical steps to untie the Gordian knot of \"FTB suspended\":\r\n\r\n1.) Replace Johannes and the UPS store address immediately by a registered agent service to ensure that the board will take notice of all official mail without any detours and delays. Please observe that Johannes is using the same mail box #716 at the UPS Store in Marina del Rey also for his Yoga Health Foundation. \r\n\r\nAs already linked before: [http://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/california-registered-agent.html|Northwest Registered Agent] might be a better and cheaper solution for a virtual organisation like IMMA. \r\n\r\n2.) Make a decision, which officer (as registered by the Secretary of State) will actively pursue the process of reviving IMMA back to good standing. Kwesi as CEO? Anton as secretary? Astrid as CFO? Might there be a better (temporary) solution regarding IMMA\'s staff of officers mandatory by law? Necessary changes can be filed to the Secretary of State at any time without additional fees.\r\n\r\n3.) Contact the FTB to find out what is wrong, instead of waiting for an uncertain time. There\'s a [https://www.ftb.ca.gov/contact_us/revivor_assistance_request.asp|Revivor Assistance Request Form] on FTB\'s site. Regarding the form Daryl as IMMA\'s actual CPA would be legitimated to request this assistance.', 'f9b739a0643b8f8f675b8d9957ff0055', '', '', '83.42.134.186', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-f9b739a064@www.meta-health.eu', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(7, '2', 'forum', 0, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1488473688, 19, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Where is the website?', 'How do we get the website back online', '9213fc112afb4eb6a1f62988671cdbf6', '', '', '185.126.109.6', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-0-9213fc112a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(8, '2', 'forum', 7, 'Thorsten', 1488757980, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Where is the website?', 'The old site metamedicine.info will be replaced by meta-health.info for the public and meta-health.net for the members (here), as the previous server on Websitesource.net is totally infected after a malware attack. So it\'s closed for public access and only used for email forwarding which is not affected.\r\n\r\nThe public site meta-health.info will probably online within the next week. Old links from metamedicine.info will be forwarded to the new content to keep search engine results alive.', '46fc60b93d98094323e0c0754163f0a5', '', '', '88.10.66.230', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-7-46fc60b93d@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-0-9213fc112a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(9, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1489102098, 175, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Examination', '~~#F00:__Thread is moved from general discussion to MT forum - including previous replies of non MTs. / Admin__ ~~\r\n---\r\n\r\n1. I\'d like to know from the Master Trainers:\r\n*who of you has used the online exam and wants that function back?\r\n*how else are you testing, and did you align the questions with the 80/160 for META-P and 40(?) for META-MP that the online exam had?\r\n*have you directed your candidates to submit their case studies, once reviewed, to the IMMA database which is a resource for study and research?\r\n\r\n2. I would suggest to change the MP theory exam to several cases with provided information, which the candidates have to analyse and make suggestions for therapy. These must of course be reviewed individually.\r\n\r\n3. For evaluation and certification, I suggest we offer the option to be tested by the certification committee (as alternative to the Master Trainer one trained with), for a fee to be decided. Same applies for META-Health Expert certification.\r\n\r\nCertification committee directors: Diana Stefani-Hunyadi, Kora Klapp\r\nCommittee members: to be established, please apply!\r\n(MPE committee as agreed oct 2016: Kwesi, Kora, Lars, Johannes)\r\n\r\nYour comments please?', 'e435f1372e31f0856a9a626a64fb05d6', '', '', '88.10.66.230', '', '', 'Kora-0-a40659305a@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(10, '4', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1489103472, 65, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'public website meta-health.info', 'We are looking for input for IMMA\'s new public website [https://www.meta-health.info|https://www.meta-health.info] that was newly installed after a malware-attack. This wordpress website will represent IMMA to non-members. How do you want it to be? Can you help with:\r\n*review/update/add texts\r\n*photos/graphics\r\n*Blog articles, videos with own META-Health content\r\n*Events\r\n*more ideas?\r\n\r\nArticles (even for Newsletter) can be collected here or sent to news@meta-health.net', 'bacf85869de6946dbb44e20382aa34c4', '', '', '88.10.66.230', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-bacf85869d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(11, '2', 'forum', 7, 'Thorsten', 1489107633, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Where is the website?', '!!Update\r\n\r\nRegarding my tests in a safe environment (sandbox) the previous server on Websitesource.net was infected with a trojan known as __BlacoleRef.CL__ which is __classified as severe__. Read more here:\r\n[http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/threat/encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?Name=Trojan:JS/BlacoleRef.CL|Microsoft Malware Protection Center]\r\n\r\nWhen I took over the IT-support I changed the permissions on the server for all folders related to old domains to read only. The folders meta-health.org and metamedicine.info stayed as is with all their standard permissions as they were in use.\r\n\r\n!!!What might have happened?\r\n Inside metamedicine.info there\'s a folder test - containing Wordpress installed by Arpita last summer. Obviously Arpita left this \"building site\" as is without any security plugin installed. Within this Wordpress installation the plugin Revolution Slider was installed - version 4.6.92. Revolution Slider is wellknown for its security risks and has quite often updates. The actual version is 5.4. \r\n\r\nHere is an example how to hack Revolution Slider. The blog is written by a certified ethical hacker:\r\n[http://hackercool.com/2016/05/hacking-wordpress-revslider-plugin-metasploit/|Hacking WordPress Revslider plugin with Metasploit]\r\n\r\nUnfortunately Arpita had used a fictive e-mail address - \'\'admin@gmail.com\'\' - for the only existing user \'\'admin\'\'. So I had to change it in the database to an existing e-mail address to be able to reset the password. When logged in I installed the security plugin Wordfence and made a scan. Beside other changes Wordfence found a file options.php containing just that malware code (Java Script) which has been copied to all PHP and HTML-files on IMMA\'s server.\r\n\r\nThis means: Every time, when a visitor opens a page, the Java Script will be executed - with the risk that the visitor\'s computer will be infected. So IMMA\'s previous webspace is a high risk area now - only accessable via a sandbox.', '8177dd312dad20b7934010b9a86fc315', '', '', '88.10.66.230', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-7-8177dd312d@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-0-9213fc112a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(12, '14', 'forum', 9, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1489964494, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Examination', 'Personally I think the online exam should be kept as open book as it helps deepen their knowledge and invites them to continue the habit of searching \r\n\r\nI ask for 10 case studies and invite students to buddy up so they have support in their learnings \r\nOnce they have completed all 10 case studies one of which I will speak to client (with their permission) and find further feedback. I schedule an appt with student to go through each case study \r\n\r\n3.Not sure about additional fee structures \r\nHave things changed since Germany and there will be experts.? Is this the same as specialists ? \r\n\r\nI think exam should be reinstated immediately as several of us are going through workshops and it looks highly unprofessional to change something so fundamental mid syllabus', 'edc5c5213639ad86d1cceda328bfa497', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-edc5c52136@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a40659305a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(13, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Kora', 1489973335, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Examination', 'In october\'s MT convention it was decided that the next practical level after META-MP would not be a \"Specialist\" but be called \"Expert\", and that candidates must show their experience (not just attending courses but work in the field) and expertise in a chosen field, by writing a thesis. (2 have  submitted their thesis by now)\r\n\r\nA meeting was held with the MHU candidates, to them it was guaranteed to apply the requirements published when they signed up for the training. A Certification Comittee was established for that purpose. I referred to this in above post when suggesting that individual candidates might choose to be certified by a committee (but that is extra work that would have to be paid for).\r\n\r\nThe online exam and the IMMA site were not purposefully changed, but they proved unsafe to use and therefore had to be taken down earlier than planned. Obviously, the exam can not easily be reinstalled for technical reasons and lack of resources. \r\nTherefore I was asking who have been using it (as we in Germany for example had lots of problems with exams being zeroed or sent prematurely, I have been using a mirror of the questions in our own programme instead).\r\n\r\nYou will probably have to use a print-out form of the exam for the time being, as long as we don\'t find another voluntary programmer who sets it up completely anew, for Thorsten is overloaded at the moment.', 'b219a4e38cc44bc328b6d8ef1718ec04', '', '', '83.51.146.46', '', NULL, 'Kora-9-b219a4e38c@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-edc5c52136@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(14, '14', 'forum', 9, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1490104040, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: Examination', 'Hi Kora, \r\nI honestly cannot remember that this was decided upon in October re specialist to Expert and perhaps it has been an oversight of mine not to have seen the minutes of meeting that we were promised.  As there seems to be a lot of loose ends that still need tidying up .\r\n\r\nRe exam, again it would be good to have a mutual meeting about this as it seems to be one thing here and there. I have no idea of you train in Germany.  So this new to me.\r\nDo you have a print out of the exam? \r\nAs i mentioned i am in a middle of syllabus at the moment and would like to be clear about what is happening from a professional stand point. \r\nThank you', '611ef2c58b7299e73f59eb486ec210c5', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-611ef2c58b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-9-b219a4e38c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(15, '14', 'forum', 9, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1490115233, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Examination', 'Hi Again, as i cannot seem to work out how to post a new forum, unfortunately i am resigned to post under Examination.\r\nRegarding the difference between EXPERT AND SPECIALIST, i still cannot remember making a group decision on this in October.  I am feeling particularly uncomfortable with this new naming as i think it is open to IMMA coming under massive scrutiny.  \r\nI think this article sums up exactly my thoughts and feelings about these words\r\n\r\nSpecialist vs Expert\r\nSpecialist and expert are two words that we keep on hearing and using very often, and still confuse between their usages. Difference between specialist and expert is subtle and will become clear after reading this article. There are cases where the two words are interchangeable, but then there are times where the use of a wrong word may land you feeling awkward.\r\n\r\nFor example, do you say that you are going to see a expert cardiologist? No, it is wrong usage and the word used here is specialist. A specialist cardiologist is a doctor who specializes in that field of medicine, and though he is an expert in cardiology, we do not call him an expert and use the word specialist for him. Thus it is clear that we use the word specialist to emphasize the specialized work area in which the said person is an expert.\r\n\r\nLook at this example. A cardiologist may be a specialist, but may not be particularly expert in his field. So if a high percentage of patients of a cardiologist do not feel satisfied with him, he is still a specialized though not viewed as an expert by his patients. Thus a specialist may not be expert.\r\n\r\nWhen we use the word expert, we mean that the person has excelled in his chosen field of work or profession. For example, a person may be an expert football player. Here, an expert is also a specialist.\r\n\r\nLook at another example. A famous comedian married 6 times and called himself a specialist in marital relations. True, he is specialist in marital relations, but is he an expert? No.\r\n\r\nIt becomes clear then that one can become a specialist in his chosen field of study or work by passing certifications and getting degrees, but he does not qualify as an expert until he is referred to as such by his clients. Thus specialist is a tangible asset in the form of a certification or degree, while expert is an intangible asset that a person earns by showing or displaying his expertise to his clients.\r\n\r\nThoughts please', 'cc395ff2ceb53bee2536ecb080dabb6e', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-cc395ff2ce@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a40659305a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(16, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Kora', 1490139617, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Examination', 'Beneath the forum headline \"Feedback & Visions\" is a button \"new topic\".\r\n\r\nI remember us discussing and voting in the question of \"Specialist\", the term was voted down because of implying limitation to a special field, which per se does not reflect META in the view of the majority of the MTs present in Neckarsulm.\r\nAs we needed to replace that term with what reflects META better for the concerned students, \"Expert\" was a proposal nobody was against, nor had a more appropriate alternative to. \r\nA mediation meeting was held with the candidates about the change of term, and the majority of them was positive (after first having misunderstood the democratic intention, and expected a \"second-class title\", being very aroused about it to the point of not being open for reconsideration). \r\n\r\nWhy complicate things now?', 'f21157787e106aa48e433b8573672bfe', '', '', '88.10.67.30', '', NULL, 'Kora-9-f21157787e@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-cc395ff2ce@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(17, '14', 'forum', 9, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1490236737, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Examination', 'Hi All\r\n\r\nI believe that a theory exam, case studies and live Viva exam should all be required if we are going to move towards higher professional standards\r\n\r\nAlso this will fall in line with any third party external accreditors/professional associations at a future date.\r\n\r\nWe META-Health Academy used to do the theory test live under exam conditions closed book, and we currently do live practical examination.  We\'ve recently created a new time limited online test for practitioner level which is more comprehensive.  I believe the exam should be time limited and closed book, obviously this can\'t be monitored on line but can be mitigated by a time limit.\r\n\r\nI guess it depends on our IMMA goals for examination and certification which would relate to our shared vision and goals for the course curricula as a whole\r\n\r\nAre we interested in testing theoretical knowledge and practical competencies?\r\n\r\nFrom a business perspective there are many different programmes in the field of health and personal development available\r\n\r\nI see standards as determining factor of the knowledge skills and competencies that our graduates leave with and therefore either represent both our individual businesses and IMMA well or not so well\r\n\r\nIn this way our methodologies for evaluation iare one of the determining factors that diffetentiates the quality of our programmes against our competition in other fields.\r\n\r\nTherefore much discussion and consideration and consultation is required prior to making and implementing new standards', 'b1c80a7e52915d4af132c583bfe62a7e', '', '', '82.0.13.27', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-9-b1c80a7e52@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a40659305a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(18, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Kora', 1490282540, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Examination', 'Hi Rob,\r\nthanks for input.\r\nWould you mind to also give a direct answer to my questions above?\r\nI also believe we should keep both theory exam, live demo and case studies for both level 2 and 3.\r\n\r\nI was asking for the need to provide an IMMA online exam, because this has to be recreated from scratch by a programmer.\r\n\r\nI am using online multiple choice testing on our own campus - for the exam we copied the questions from IMMA\'s quiz.\r\nI don\'t require \"closed book\" and time limit,  and when students don\'t choose the answers I expect, I ask them for how they were thinking to choose that answer - in that way I could clarify the wording of certain questions, or even had to reframe them. \r\nI want my students to be able to search for information and to explain their answers more than remembering (usually short-term memory anyway) what they heard/read - I myself recap and research before doing presentations. \r\n\r\nFor Masters, I think theory is yet less relevant, but for competence practice and flexibility is  - hence the proposal to give them case information to deal with, rather than multiple choice questions.\r\n\r\nDiscussion can happen right here in the forum before formulating new standards.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\nKora', 'f2b434ee5b90be9b4124758d157fe1a7', '', '', '83.55.90.205', '', NULL, 'Kora-9-f2b434ee5b@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-9-b1c80a7e52@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(19, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Kora', 1490300841, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Examination', 'Hi Penny, \r\nI don\'t have the English version of the exam questions, and Thorsten has searched the IMMA files and hasn\'t found them there yet.\r\nWe shall ask around on sunday\'s (?) MT meeting. When will you need them?\r\n\r\nThe minutes of the convention as published lacked a lot of things that I remember to have been discussed and that I would have liked to review for confirmation. Unfortunately, there is no recording so we rely on our memories... I hope for input from the others. BTW this is why we have this platform now to save all documents in one place, and board meetings are recorded as well as minutes written after them.\r\n\r\nAbout the Expert candidates, I hope the issue won\'t be stirred up again after we eventually succeeded to satisfy them with explanation and guarantee that the same requirements will be applied for them as were stated when they signed up for the MHU training (i e standards proposal 8) until june, after that these standards might have become reviewed by a workgroup and changed accordingly.', '58ce83cb7022e50ff4b1f56103f62d38', '', '', '83.55.90.205', '', NULL, 'Kora-9-58ce83cb70@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-611ef2c58b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(20, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1490532287, 30, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Certification & accreditation', 'According to IMMA\'s structure, certification of Practitioners & Master Practitioners is via their Master Trainers and with consent of the board, represented by the president or vice president.\r\nFor Trainers, currently 2 Master Trainer recommendations plus requirements documentation are needed.\r\nFor Master Trainers, currently 3 other Master Trainer recommendations plus requirements documentation are needed.\r\nFormal documentation and accreditation of the requirements are via the certification committee/alternatively the board of directors.\r\n\r\nI have missed that step for some of the certifications given out during the Conference, and several new Trainers approached me that I am not aware having seen a documentation of accomplishments of.\r\nFor the sake of transparency and according to our structure, certifications shall be given out after open documentation and review, and in consent with the board or certification committee.', 'd7348455e4336cb4ba7965ee6fa65779', '', '', '79.159.123.109', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-d7348455e4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(21, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1490533128, 27, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Entitlement and responsibility to give META-Health trainings', '*Currently, only MTs are entitled to give certification trainings. Trainers are entitled to give Level 1 (foundation) trainings. \r\n\r\n*When a Trainer wants to give a certification training, they must name a mentor MT who is formally responsible and known to IMMA board.\r\n\r\n*When a Practitioner/Master Practitioner wants to give a Foundation Training, they must name a mentor Trainer or MT who is formally responsible and known to IMMA board.\r\n\r\n*When a Practitioner/Master Practitioner wants to hold an introductory talk, they are encouraged to take a Speaker\'s training, but they are entitled to name and describe META-Health in a talk or workshop in their own practice, as long as the content about META-Health does not exceed 4 hours.\r\n\r\nDo we need to discuss and change any of these rules?', 'afc2a7cc04dde8de7fe3ee6ddd214c8e', '', '', '79.159.123.109', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-afc2a7cc04@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(22, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1490635200, 83, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Read Gita\'s thesis here:\r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2009| pdf file] \r\n\r\nwith my comments inserted in blue italic here:\r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2000| word file] \r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2008| pdf file] \r\n\r\nI\'d ask her to specify somewhat more with regards to META-Helth & scientific knowledge (see comments in her text), otherwise I acknowledge her article.\r\nAny more comments please?', '77212a8388310b69f81269875d36bab4', '', '', '88.10.66.242', '', '', 'Kora-0-5544d33c2e@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(23, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1490644938, 20, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Marc\'s MPE thesis', 'See Marc\'s thesis with my comments here:\r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2002| pdf file] \r\n\r\nI appreciate more peer review from our doctors and brain experts!', 'e01b764e57490b0a9f58b160c7b97081', '', '', '88.10.66.242', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-e01b764e57@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(24, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1490710097, 225, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2015', '~~#F00:__Thread is moved from general discussion to MT forum - including previous replies of non MTs. / Admin__ ~~\r\n\r\nAs begun in the october convention of Master Trainers, we want to review, simplify, and clarify IMMA\'s structure, align training contents in core points, and expectations to fulfill by META-Health professionals, trainers and candidates for the different levels.\r\n\r\nHere is the proposal we take as base:\r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2006| pdf file] (with my personal comments added)\r\n\r\nI like us to refer to and discuss each paragraph separately, opening a new thread for each. This process is open not only for Master Trainers but for all members who contribute constructively. Key is, when we don\'t like some point or don\'t find it meaningful, to also present a possible (more appropriate) alternative.\r\n\r\n\r\n__Already outdated info__ in that proposal:\r\n*no online __app__ to be bought, but the META-Wiki is open for every member with no additional cost. It shows also on portable devices.\r\n*META-MP __Specialist__ has been renamed META-MP __Expert__ after voting on the convention and discussing with the candidates. Until june 2017, the same requisites as named in the 2015 Structure apply.\r\n*META-__Senior__ MT is no official IMMA title. However, candidates for META-MPE, META-T and META-MT are encouraged to choose a mentor to prepare and support them.', 'c7787aa4689b3b652c3b155286c34215', '', '', '88.10.66.242', '', '', 'Kora-0-e70578d8e3@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(25, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1490792059, 69, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'META-Health trademarks', '__Trademarks like META-Health are not protected globally.__ There are different rules for each country. In the USA a trademark has to be in active use to become protected (even if not registered), in the EU an official registration is needed:\r\n\r\n[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark]\r\n\r\nActually IMMA is holding the trademark \"META-Health\" both in the USA and in the EU. Johannes\' old trademark \"Meta-Medicine\" is no longer active in the USA and has never been registered in Europe: \r\n\r\n*[tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2004|Trademark META-Health USA] \r\n*[tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2005|Trademark META-Health EU] \r\n\r\nSpreading the knowledge of META-Health / META-Medicine to other countries questions will come up about the registration of local trademarks.\r\n\r\nRegarding the costs IMMA as a low budget non profit organization will probably be unable to register the trademarks in all relevant countries and all relevant translations in the standard classes  16 (books), 41 (education) and 44 (therapy).\r\n\r\n__What\'s your opinion about the trademark META-Health and it\'s protection?__', '9a7e36e494310ac918a0d65827f9cd43', '', '', '88.10.66.242', '', '', 'Thorsten-0-8a5095c97f@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(26, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1491761742, 633, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Case studies & database', 'I think the case studies we collect from the students, plus cases from all active professionals, should be base of ongoing research and completion of META-Health understanding.\r\n\r\nFor this we have to make sure\r\n*that the student cases are submitted not only to MTs but to IMMA\r\n*to ask members who are who are listed as active professionals  to submit interesting client cases, at least 3 per year for META-P, MP and MPE to IMMA \r\n*that the submitted cases hold an aligned format, so translation and comparison is easy.\r\n\r\nCurrently, the format for case studies is:\r\nView / download [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2007|Word-document]\r\n\r\n!!META-Health Client Case - Submission Form\r\n\'\'(Additions according to Danish form in Italics)\'\'\r\n!!!General information\r\n1. Client ID/Pseudonym: \r\n\'\'Date:\'\'\r\n2. Sex: 	\r\n3. Birth date/Age: 	\r\n4. Side Dominance: \r\n5. Hormonal Status: \r\n6. Current Medications/Treatments: \r\n\r\n!!!Associations \r\n(described as far as client’s recognition allows)\r\n7. Symptom: \r\n\'\'Medical Diagnose:\'\'\r\n\'\'Organ tissue/s:\'\'\r\n\'\'Brain layer/s:\'\'\r\n8. What is the Biological Theme:  \r\n9. What Emotions are connected: \r\n10. What are the Connected Beliefs: \r\n11. What is the META-Meaning: \r\n\r\n!!!Timeline\r\n(described as far as client’s recognition allows)\r\nIn chronic patterns, various symptoms can appear. Try to match them to the experience.\r\n12. UDIN Moment:	\r\n13. Stress Triggers (VAKOGS):	 \r\n14. Stress Phase Symptoms:	 \r\n15. Regeneration Trigger:	\r\n16. Regeneration Phase A Symptoms:	\r\n17. Healing Peaks/Symptoms:	\r\n18. Regeneration Phase B Symptoms:	\r\n\r\n!!!META-Health Practice\r\n19. Action/Transformation Plan: \r\n\'\'a) Body\'\'\r\n\'\'b) Environment\'\'\r\n\'\'c) Social\'\'\r\n\'\'d) Emotional Release\'\'\r\n\'\'e) Thoughts/Belief change\'\'\r\n\'\'f) Spirit\'\'\r\n\r\n20. Follow-Up: \r\n\r\n21. Additional Information: \r\n\r\n Please comment if you find that this format should be changed or added to!', 'adb4a1fcbe71eb6a883aa2bbc36e6f4e', '', '', '83.51.149.115', '', '', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(27, '14', 'forum', 26, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1491770007, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies & database', 'We are a little more detailed in Denmark', 'c770a2f8264ce9b5407596c9b57d3b7c', '', '', '94.127.52.251', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-26-c770a2f826@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(28, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1491772234, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Thanks for comparison Lars! \r\nI think they are equal in most parts but we should align the numbers.\r\nWhat I deliberately not want is that we have to determine one organ tissue for a case, as there mostly are several involved (which now can be tagged/linked) according to my and students\' experience.\r\nOf course, the therapy part can be expanded to specify physical, emotional, spiritual and social levels.', 'd3256760b5d13f3782589c304366c51c', '', '', '83.51.149.115', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-d3256760b5@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-26-c770a2f826@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(29, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kumi Just', 1491809148, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Kora and everyone\r\n\r\nI completely disagree about the number of organ tissue pr. case. I think we need the students to make casestudies based on only one organ tissue in order to learn the method. Student have a tendency to mix it all up. Ex. a person falls down the stairs and breaks his arm, we have the options to go with skeleton, dermis and epidermis (and several more different tissues). They will each have completely different emotional themes that should not be mixed up and therefor we will need 3 different casestudies. If we want to be more holistic we could do an advanced METAhealth analysis, similar to the non-linear analysis that Joanne and Robert introduced in Birmingham, but I don\'t think we should allow that to be a case study.  \r\n\r\nHowever I\'d like a different submission form when they do case studies in constellations, which there seems to be a great interest in doing in Denmark. So far they have been told to do two normal case studies if they want to hand it in. \r\n\r\nAlso, I\'d like for them to have a more specific form when they are dealing with a recurring issue like back pain, where it\'ll make more sense with dates and stuff (I think You know what I mean).', '04506dd0dc5202cf399a440b475e472f', '', '', '109.57.155.158', '', NULL, 'Sidse-26-04506dd0dc@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(30, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1491820371, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Sidse,\r\nI agree that we have to distinguish between specifics of different tissues. To teach those is our task as trainers. However, case studies are practical and according to my own experience, tissues cooperate, cause each other to react etc., and this can\'t be divided meaningfully. Same is true for constellations, of which there are much more than the few described, and we have the opportunity to do our own research when cases are not \"cut down\" to fit just one definition.\r\n\r\nWhat needs to make sense is the connection of biological function, emotions & thoughts.\r\nSubmitted case studies need to be reviewed and discussed, which is usually done by the MT (inside a course) or inside the community.\r\n\r\nI wrote above that by the functions of tiki, tags/links can be made to the tissues involved in a case, and of course can be clarified how they do.\r\nAs an example, I had a breast cancer client who had both (diagnosed) ((Endocrine - Pituitary Gland - Anterior Lobe|pituitary)) overfunction (\"need to save/nurture her family\") by her identity, leading to worry ( ((Reproductive - Mammary Glands|breast glands)) ). These are general patterns - she always had to take care of all. UDINs were traumatic separations ( ((Reproductive - Milk Ducts and Mamilla|milk ducts)) ) from her husband when he died, and of a dog that she had saved, cared for, and which also died. Yet, her META-meaning was a new balance between freedom (her symptoms got much better on a vacation, and later when some domestic triggers were dissolved) and being connected to her loved ones.\r\nMake sense?\r\n\r\nI propose that when different tissues are involved, to number them 1,2,3... and try to show their significance in the pattern.', '40368e509280ca52dc87d3284c38156f', '', '', '83.51.149.115', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-40368e5092@www.meta-health.net', 'Sidse-26-04506dd0dc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(31, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kumi Just', 1491821526, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Interesting! I see your point. My clients present the same way - it\'s all connected. \r\n\r\nMakes me worry that it might get to difficult for the student to get that metaview. Maybe we need different forms depending on their level? \r\n\r\nLike one tissue pr. case study for the first 5 cases and something more holistic with the next 20, which could also include a more suitable form for constellations? \r\n\r\n:-)', '05943daa5bcc343be7bea2b60b5f2a6e', '', '', '109.57.155.158', '', NULL, 'Sidse-26-05943daa5b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-40368e5092@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(32, '5', 'forum', 22, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1491933792, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'I have not had the time to read this Thesis until today.\r\n\r\nEither I have completely misunderstood META-Health and what it stands for or Gita has not understood META-Health.\r\n\r\n1. We can not use Wiki as a scientific reference, mainly because it changes all the time\r\n2. META-Health is including all therapies, also trigger point therapy\r\n3.Text in this article http://www.starttofinish.com/better-results/trigger-point-injections/ completely contradicts META-Health \"If you spend long hours at a computer or holding your ear to the phone for business or personal calls, you may be setting the stage for trigger point pain.”\r\n4. The cases referred to in the Thesis are incomplete. I need better cases from my Practitioner students, in case C, what is a Lifestyle Prescription. Its not something in META-Health. \r\n5. In the beginning Gita writes about trigger point treatment, where she heals many UDINS in one session by herself, how does she do that and does she know the difference between a UDIN and a trigger.\r\n\r\nGita is not demonstrating deep understanding of META-Health from my perspective.\r\n\r\nLars', '6e6880948e2d5615d0cb440f4a6c7ccf', '', '', '62.30.218.21', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-22-6e6880948e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-5544d33c2e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(33, '5', 'forum', 22, 'Kora', 1491938839, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Hi Lars,\r\nthen we should define what META-Health means and what not.\r\nTo me, it means \r\n*understanding the interconnectedness of mind, body and environment\r\n*understanding rhythms & phases \r\n*understanding trauma/UDIN, sensitization/VAKOG triggers, and adaptation\r\nBut as META-Health was described as undogmatic, it does not mean one has to agree with all of GNM or with all former Master Trainers may have taught. Where do you think one has not understood META-Health correctly?\r\n\r\nReferring to your points:\r\n1. Correct, the Wiki changes in certain points, as science does (However, it can be quoted as per date and time, because it\'s history is stored and can be reviewed). It also allows for discussion. In science, one refers to specific published articles, which we do hardly have in META-Health. Same is true for Marc\'s thesis where he refers to the directory without quoting.\r\n2. Correct, but this is not contradicted. She is only delving deeper into that special field, as was permitted to do for a MPE thesis.\r\n3. How does that completely contradict META-Health? The example is what I\'d call a myofascial (kinesthetic) trigger by habit.\r\n4. A Lifestyle Prescription is Johannes\' term for \"therapy plan/action based on the META-meaning\".\r\n5. This is a question for Gita to clarify.', 'f7792e2fa3262e2d56b3efaa72c4722e', '', '', '83.51.149.115', '', '', 'Kora-22-6d98f7e0f7@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-22-6e6880948e@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(34, '5', 'forum', 22, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1491978336, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'What I teach is that everything you can do to improve your health is included in META-Health. I do not see anything as seperate from META-Health.\r\nI would like to read on how a method works in the MH framework not how the two work together.\r\n\r\nadd. 3 we can only have a trigger if we have a UDIN, for me it is not obvious that Gita understand the difference. Its not clear in the article.\r\nadd. 4 why are the detalis left out?\r\nadd. 5 why are the detalis left out? \r\n\r\nGita also mentions PEAT as a treatment, but that just refers to many different release techniques.\r\n\r\nIn good descriptions we need to be able to replicate a procedure and here we can only quess whats have been done.', '27b40003097b33b7ed9c61d9f6e39f53', '', '', '62.30.218.21', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-22-27b4000309@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-22-6d98f7e0f7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(35, '12', 'forum', 0, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1491988276, 69, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Directory of Practitioners/T/MT on the meta-health.info website', 'Dear Thorsten,\r\nI was asked when the directory for the IMMA Therapists and Trainers will be available again on the meta-health.info site? I know that we need another IT expert to relieve you so we can update the sites. Many thanks Kwesi', '8fcc6d5daa90f17c5558391e579a22d4', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-0-8fcc6d5daa@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(36, '5', 'forum', 22, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1491990463, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Dear Kora and Lars. I am now reading Gitta\'s thesis so I can follow your discussion. Kora could you please upload Gitta\'s thesis as a PDF document.', '933e8ee9bf3b97f3f98785b8effa41b9', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-22-933e8ee9bf@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-5544d33c2e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(38, '5', 'forum', 22, 'Kora', 1491993880, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Of course any analytic and therapy approach can be used inside META-Health - we all teach that (or who does not?). \r\nBut I don\'t get where you see a contradiction, when a certain method like using myofascial trigger points, or PEAT, is mentioned or described inside that frame? \r\nMETA-Health is clearly not only diagnostic for me, but leading the way to find and apply __appropriate__ therapeutic interventions and suggestions for change on various levels (\"lifestyle\") - I include these building blocks in my teachings, to show the practical use.\r\n\r\n3. She is describing how she gets from triggers to the UDIN behind.\r\nQuote: \"...\'\'it is a good idea to make notes of whatever comes up, and identify the roots for them in the next stage, which is to get to the bottom of it. (...)  When did I first feel this emotion? What happened then? (...) It all comes to an end when you find that you can\'t ask how or why anymore, and you have the fount of the emotional reaction available on hand. This is where you find the root of your emotional trauma - and this is what you get to address next\'\'.\"\r\n\r\n4.+5. Just as I did in my comments in her text, the committee can ask Gita for added clarification to specific questions.\r\n\r\nThe meaning is to help the candidate to meet our requirements by asking. As there were no concrete frames and details formulated in the requirements for MPS/MPE in the first place, and we now guaranteed to stick to the first-formulated requirements for the papers submitted until june 2017, we have no basis to reject a thesis.\r\nWe can take the learnings from this first group to be certified to define requirements and their assessment clearly, and to suggest mentoring and monitoring for the chosen thesis prior to it\'s submit.\r\n\r\nQuote from IMMA standards proposal 8:\r\n\'\'IMMA Core Standards for META-MPS Certification\r\n▪ Prerequisite: META-Health Master Practitioner\r\n▪ Additional 250 hours of live/practice training modules over 8-12 months\r\n▪ Demonstrate excellence in Advanced META-Health Analysis, Therapy & Coaching\r\n▪ Demonstrates ability to create profound improvements in all 8 META-Health Milestones\r\n▪ Specialist in field of expertise (like pain, dementia, anxiety or a field of practice)\r\n▪ 5 cases and 1 live analysis/therapy demo submitted and reviewed by IMMA committee\r\n▪ Fully integrated META-Health in own life and in own health practice\r\n▪ Peer-reviewed research article, book, video published about speciality field\r\n▪ META-MPS certification via IMMA Committee (submit all documentations) for review\'\'\r\n\r\nIn [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=24&topics_offset=1|this thread] we review structure proposal 8.\r\n[http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=9&topics_offset=2|This thread] is about future examination processes.', '07ca3eeb0335b14149a928cfbd80df65', '', '', '88.10.57.199', '', NULL, 'Kora-22-07ca3eeb03@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-22-27b4000309@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(40, '5', 'forum', 22, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1492000777, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Thanks Kora, I wanted to be sure that I have her original thesis without your comments so it is clear what is hers and what you have added. I now see that in the PDF you have also added your comments. I would like to read it in the original by Gita written version.', '5a6d71799b461c23a563f8e313661351', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-22-5a6d71799b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-5544d33c2e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(41, '5', 'forum', 22, 'Kora', 1492002670, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'I inserted my comments in blue and italic to distinguish, and didn\'t change her words.\r\nUploaded the original above now.', '69684dbed8ad4e51a4ae0eecec152eae', '', '', '88.10.57.199', '', NULL, 'Kora-22-69684dbed8@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-22-5a6d71799b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(42, '5', 'forum', 22, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1492004042, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Gita\'s MPE thesis', 'Many thanks Kora', 'd6dea08479ff2816026c00f02a5981ac', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-22-d6dea08479@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-5544d33c2e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(43, '12', 'forum', 35, 'Thorsten', 1492019092, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Directory of Practitioners/T/MT on the meta-health.info website', 'Well, first we need to have all our paying members registered on meta-health.net. Mhelizza is just updating the user list. Afterwards we\'ll import all members who aren\'t registered yet with temporary passwords to the user database. That\'s important to be able to communicate effectively with all members via forum or group messages.\r\n\r\nMeanwhile I\'m developing the form and the database which will do the job in the background. Collecting the data will probably be possible from the end of april. Publishing the list will first make sense when there\'re enough entries in the practitioner database - to avoid discrepancy with the promoted thousands of professionals who have been trained in META-Health until now ;-). The public site might need some better formulations to build a stable bridge between the now and our vision for the future.', '0621a16b2a270acbec437e0796ca1a68', '', '', '88.10.72.204', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-35-0621a16b2a@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-0-8fcc6d5daa@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(44, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Sunita', 1492119405, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Examination', 'Hi Penny & Kora, \r\n\r\nHope you guys are well!:)\r\n\r\nI know this might not be the most appropriate place to post, but it\'s related to the current conversation, so I though I would post here...I agree with Penny, I am not really comfortable with the term \'expert\'...I think I definitely prefer \'specialist\'....I wonder what others think?', 'b2b31089c77612942b046dab9a2d7ebf', '', '', '86.178.227.87', '', NULL, 'Sunita-9-b2b31089c7@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-9-cc395ff2ce@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(45, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Kora', 1492120129, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Examination', 'Hi Sunita, \r\ndid you read the post below explaining how we got to the term \"Expert\"?\r\nThere was a discussion among the Master Trainers and the majority was negative to \"Specialist\" for named reasons.\r\nSo, in a democratic structure, what would you suggest?\r\nThe current candidates are mostly fine with the term.\r\n\r\nShould this be a point of further discussion?\r\nAnybody who want to specialize can call themselves specialist anyway, but according to the view of october\'s convention it will not be an official IMMA title.', '41480a32bfbff8a2bad1d9eae29236f4', '', '', '88.10.72.204', '', NULL, 'Kora-9-41480a32bf@www.meta-health.net', 'Sunita-9-b2b31089c7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(46, '14', 'forum', 9, 'Walter Reiner', 1492158230, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Examination', 'Hi All,\r\nwe are using in German the online exam for META-P and we wants that function back.', 'a3a178c8a906c3e8438a3802e0d0ec04', '', '', '80.129.11.27', '', NULL, 'Walter Reiner-9-a3a178c8a9@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a40659305a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(47, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1492297452, 172, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Headaches and migraines', 'I recently discussed headaches and the various mechanisms that can cause them.\r\n\r\nFirstly, no pain without ((Nervous - Sensory Innervation|sensory nerves)). As we know, the brain itself has no sensory innervation, simply an impact point or regeneration phase in the brain relays don\'t cause pain. Sensory innervated structures in the area are ((Circulatory - System Overview|blood and lymph vessels)), ((Nervous - Brain - Meninges|meninges)), and the pericranium (((Musculoskeletal - Periosteum (Visceral Fascia)|periosteum)) of the skull). Pressure on these structures, like local tumors or edema, can cause pain, as does inflammation. Thereby, deep regeneration phases accompanied by ((Urinary - Kidneys - Collecting Tubules|water retention)) in the affected relays can cause headache.\r\nInflammation in the ((Sensory - Ears - Eustachian Tube|middle ear)) and ((Respiratory - Nasopharyngeal Mucosa |nasopharynx)) as well as in the sinuses also causes pressure.\r\n\r\nHistamin like in certain foods & drinks can also trigger headache: this is a \"chemical warning trigger\" hinting at the circumstances of the UDIN.\r\n\r\nHeadaches can be due to increased blood flow and -pressure to the brain like in overthinking, or to spasms in the vessels like in a healing peak. Migraines can be connected to hormone levels, or hormonal triggers.\r\nHypertension in ((Musculoskeletal - Skeletal Muscles|muscles))/((Musculoskeletal - Muscle Fascia|fascia)) can lead to headache: typical are tight neck muscles, ((Nervous - Facial Nerve|facial)) muscles or strained ((Sensory - Eye Muscles|eye muscles)).\r\n\r\nThe dramatic, short cluster headache in the forehead seems to appear in the healing peak of the frontal (fear) relays.\r\n\r\nInterestingly, meningeal and periosteum sensitivity seems to follow the Inner Skin pattern with hyperesthesia in stress phase, therefore a cold, helmet-like headache or migraine accompanied by low blood flow in the area can appear in the respective stress phase.\r\n\r\nSo, a specific description is needed to precisely identify what tissues are affected: warm or cold feeling? Time or rhythm of appearance? Quality of the pain? Certain triggers?\r\nHaving that said, it\'s always the stressors that are the problem, even in regeneration phases, like the expectation of pain...\r\n\r\nPlease add your experiences and insights!', '3415bf033fab36ae8398d8e18e339743', '', '', '88.10.58.83', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-3415bf033f@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(48, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Milly Vinogradoff', 1492328391, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'Hi all,\r\nThe name expert implies high knowledge but for me the term can carry an amateur connotation. For exemple I consider myself an expert in photography (I could make a living out of it but I don\'t) but I am a Meta-Health specialist because I am  professional in that discipline.', '512612cfee8f27ba00f991ee244f24ac', '', '', '82.241.58.22', '', NULL, 'Milly Vinogradoff-24-512612cfee@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-e70578d8e3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(49, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Sue', 1492336291, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'I am not happy with expert either - medical specialists can be called as \'expert\' witnesses in court and we do not call medical consultants experts but specialists and law firms say the specialise in... if we want to be seen as professionals on a par with others, then certainly in the UK \'Expert\' does not do it.', 'b2e78230e10282907bb74bbefa7d120b', '', '', '2.102.150.252', '', NULL, 'Sue-24-b2e78230e1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-e70578d8e3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(50, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Thorsten', 1492350115, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'IMMA\'s certification trainings are primarily designed for professionals. So as a rule both META-Health Practitioners (level 2) and META-Health Master Practitioners (level 3) are professionals.\r\n\r\nSome years ago there was the idea to establish another higher level 4 - at first called Master Practitioner Specialist (MPS).\r\n\r\n!!What\'s a \"specialist\"?\r\nLet\'s have a look on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialist_degree|Wikipedia]:\r\n\r\n^In the United States, the Specialist\'s degree is hierarchically above the master\'s degree and below the Doctorate. It was invented by colleges and schools of education as an alternative to obtaining a doctorate, and focused on subjects pertinent to K-12 education - such as leadership and counseling, and educational psychology.^\r\n\r\nAnd what are the requirements?\r\n\r\n^The American Specialist degree typically requires 30 semester hours or 45 quarter hours beyond the master\'s degree (60 semester hours or 90 quarter hours beyond the Baccalaureate) and can be completed in one to three academic years of continuous full-time or part-time enrolment.^\r\n\r\n1 semester hour is generally equal to 16 hours in the classroom [http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/24760-semester-hours.html|source here]. So 30 semester hours is equal to 480 hours in the classroom. \r\n\r\nOn the convention in october, this big difference in the MPS/MPE syllabus compared to medical studies required to obtain the title of a specialist was brought to awareness by the medical doctors. Moreover, the point of discussion was that META represents the broad overview and perspective, contrary to what specialism in conventional medicine is about, so that this term was found to feel inadequate for what our experienced professionals are doing.\r\n\r\n__The actual META-Health certification trainings are altogether on a non academic level__ (see the [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2006| pdf file] as linked above for details). During the India Conference more detailed discussions have been inititated regarding a new academic branch of META-Health education for doctors. In my opinion the specialist degree should be dedicated to this possible development.\r\n\r\n!!What\'s an \"expert\"?\r\n\r\nLet\'s have one more look on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert|Wikipedia]:\r\n\r\n^Informally, an expert is someone widely recognized as a reliable source of technique or skill whose faculty for judging or deciding rightly, justly, or wisely is accorded authority and status by peers or the public in a specific well-distinguished domain. An expert, more generally, is a person with extensive knowledge or ability based on research, experience, or occupation and in a particular area of study.^\r\n\r\n^Experts have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and education in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of expert is well established by consensus and therefore it is not always necessary for individuals to have a professional or academic qualification for them to be accepted as an expert.^\r\n\r\nPlease compare with the requirements for the former META-MPS (see the [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2006| pdf file] as linked above on page 4 and 5). Where is the inconsistence to call a person who\'s certified in accordance to these standards a META-Health Master Practitioner Expert?', '3c22b8cfd8948e692eaa7eb61cb3682e', '', '', '83.42.134.232', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-24-3c22b8cfd8@www.meta-health.net', 'Sue-24-b2e78230e1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(51, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Laithreach', 1492365700, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'I also have a strong preference for not adopting the term \'expert\'.\r\n\r\nIn the strictest sense, I understand we should reasonably be able to apply the broad definition of expert to a practitioner with advanced standing.  However, in practice, the term feels oddly inappropriate to me.\r\n\r\nTo be an expert is a subjective position and there are many amateur experts (I think Milly referred to this in her post.)\r\nExpert legal/medical professionals (to borrow examples from this & another thread) can only be referred to as such on the basis of their qualifications, profession accreditation and/or specialist skills (which is why I think those terms are more suitable).  \r\n\r\nI believe you can still have a specialism (or not) but view this as a separate point to being a meta specialist.  \r\n\r\nI am a native English speaker so possibly there are nuances for those with other language backgrounds that I am not considering...', '364080170b6e026f9043968e97e7bced', '', '', '90.202.107.104', '', NULL, 'Laithreach-24-364080170b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-e70578d8e3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(52, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Thorsten', 1492367752, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'Please have a look at Kora\'s first post:\r\n\r\n^META-MP Specialist has been renamed META-MP Expert after voting on the convention and discussing with the candidates.^\r\n\r\nSo there\'s a binding decision that the non academic IMMA level 4 will no longer be named \"Specialist\". In a mediation process with the affected candidates we\'ve agreed on the alternative \"Expert\". Please don\'t discuss already outdated infos.\r\n\r\nBy the way: Real experts don\'t dislike the term \"expert\", they dislike \"self-appointed experts\". See sunday evening\'s reading by Steven Dutch, Natural and Applied Sciences, University of Wisconsin: [http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PSEUDOSC/SelfApptdExp.htm|Self-Appointed Experts]', '791a0f714365c6b038bfa1c9be86a239', '', '', '81.34.165.11', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-24-791a0f7143@www.meta-health.net', 'Laithreach-24-364080170b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(53, '14', 'forum', 24, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1492371475, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'Hi Thorsten \r\nIt was my impression that Kora wanted input from all members and as I was at the German meeting \r\nI nor 3 other master trainers remember that it was agreed to call it Experts \r\nIt is my opinion if people wish to voice their opinion and why we give them full permission to do so and listen to what the practitioners who are facing the public and will have to call themselves this name if and when they reach that level. \r\nI invite all to express their opinion openly and freely', '3ee243dfb58f27183172e4a36af80c1a', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-24-3ee243dfb5@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-24-791a0f7143@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(54, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Thorsten', 1492373047, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'On the MT convention the decision was made that \"specialist\" is no appropriate naming for IMMA level 4. Unfortunately the MTs didn\'t agree in NSU on any alternative naming although Johannes had an ongoing MPS training. So the Board of Directors as IMMA\'s only legal leading group had to make the decision.\r\n\r\nAll affected MPS candidates were invited for a common mediation process (with Kora and me as mediators) and together we found the agreement that \"Master Practitioner Expert\" would be the appropriate naming. Which was confirmed by the Board of Directors as binding decision for all candidates applying for certification before 2017-06-30.\r\n\r\nPrimarily the experiences with MHU\'s MPS trainings have to be evaluated to be able to decide how to continue with level 4. When a new concept for level 4 is accepted by the MTs all creative IMMA members are invited to find an appropriate name.', '0013713d55eb59a08b3cfb836adae2bf', '', '', '81.34.165.11', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-24-0013713d55@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-24-3ee243dfb5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(55, '14', 'forum', 24, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1492373923, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'I was unaware of this meditation process as were the others I have spoken to \r\nOn the legal terminology I will defer to trainers private forum \r\n\r\nHowever please do have the compassion to listen to the practitioners with patience as they are the ones that are out there facing the public and many are far above specialists and experts in other fields \r\n\r\nSending gratitude', '522e3a1bbccc2bb08092d81bbc480d35', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-24-522e3a1bbc@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-24-0013713d55@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(56, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492374197, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'I now added the points from the Danish form in above first post in \'\'Italics\'\'.\r\nAccording to my meaning and for the research purpose, several tissue & brain layers can be referred to, which must make sense in the context (see my answer to Sidse above). \r\n\r\nI make it clear to students that I am not asking them to insert symptoms they would expect in this documentation form, but only those identified with the client. There is no obligation to fill out all the points, but only those that are observed/reached with the client. \r\nI discuss the case studies with the students before submission, so they can alter, add or specify when necessary.', 'f50dc67e15c177155fc900e1ad24893e', '', '', '81.34.165.11', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-f50dc67e15@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-d3256760b5@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(57, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Kumi Just', 1492386042, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2015', 'Hi all :-) \r\nAre we open to a third option? (not that I have a suggestion right now, but there seems to be a lot of resistance to both specialist and expert)', '363babd129b1f01ad6cda2601c96fc12', '', '', '109.59.185.217', '', NULL, 'Sidse-24-363babd129@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-e70578d8e3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(58, '14', 'forum', 24, 'Kora', 1492421953, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2015', 'Hi Sidse,\r\nI think Thorsten has already answered that yesterday, see below:\r\n\"Primarily the experiences with MHU\'s MPS trainings have to be evaluated to be able to decide how to continue with level 4. __When a new concept for level 4 is accepted by the MTs all creative IMMA members are invited to find an appropriate name.__ \"\r\n\r\n!!!For everybody:\r\nwhen you answer to the topic (in the box you see at the bottom of the thread), your post will appear directly under the first post (as Sidse did now). This can sometimes be confusing to read, when the post refers to earlier __answers__. It might then be better to click on \"__reply__\" under the post you are referring to (like I did now), so that the reader understands the __flow of discussion__.', '84f2403e549f0dd04cf5e6aae5d63bc3', '', '', '83.51.147.248', '', NULL, 'Kora-24-84f2403e54@www.meta-health.net', 'Sidse-24-363babd129@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(59, '14', 'forum', 24, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1492437864, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Review of IMMA Structure (proposal) 8 from 2016', 'I remember that we decided to find term than Specialist. Expert was one of many.\r\nIn Denmark an expert takes 7-10 years full time to achive, So right now nobody but me have that background in Denmark since most have been trained after 2009.', 'c8f7ebcfd10b3531058780f9832675b5', '', '', '80.62.117.111', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-24-c8f7ebcfd1@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-24-522e3a1bbc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(60, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1492458562, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '\"The Truth about Vaccines\" package', 'Hi,\r\nI bought a package of videos, transcripts and materials \r\n\"The Truth about Vaccines\" which is currently running online.\r\nSee here: [https://go2.thetruthaboutvaccines.com/docuseries/order/]\r\n\r\nI have got 2 download coupons - anybody interested to share and get one?', 'b14489053b35fc1f0ea6698bcc635152', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-b14489053b@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(61, '14', 'forum', 26, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1492465329, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi \r\nI agree with Sidse and Lars - one case one tissue, you have to be able to be able to navigate this as a practitioner. \r\nAnd you can always leave a comment in the end of the Case-form about the case being connected to other tissues/issues. \r\n\r\nThe data base is also a place for students to study and if things are all mixed together it can lead them astray. \r\n\r\nA METAhealth analysis, similar to the non-linear analysis that Joanne and Robert introduced in Birmingham, can be put into a separate database only for certified practitioners - In my view they are not ready for it before that.', 'e78bc29fd2661adc5211a5e9f66371b4', '', '', '77.213.163.77', '', NULL, 'metafys@gmail.com-26-e78bc29fd2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(62, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492472770, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Lisbeth,\r\nI still disagree for a database and explained why. Sidse confirmed that she gets my point.\r\nTraining students in finding out tissues is one thing - I do this with exercises - documenting practical work is another thing.\r\nI\'m fine if you want to lead students to only pinpoint and mention one tissue each study - but when there are several involved which cause and influence each other this is important to notice - see my example above. \r\n\r\nI wrote documentation must make sense, and it\'s a great opportunity to learn for both students and us all, when we have room to investigate constellations, interactions etc. It is a potential not a must, but frankly I don\'t work otherwise. \r\nWould you or Rob post the non-linear analysis here so I can see how it matches my own style, and whether it makes sense to have different categories of case studies?\r\n\r\nWhat do you think about collecting quality cases from the professionals to keep their status active?', '92ff940c35adfeed800583bea3e689aa', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-92ff940c35@www.meta-health.net', 'metafys@gmail.com-26-e78bc29fd2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(63, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kumi Just', 1492500225, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Kora, even though I see your point and that my clients present with multiple symptoms and that we do know it is all connected, I do NOT agree with you when it comes to the case studies. I\'m sorry I wasn\'t clear about that. I still firmly believe in one organ tissue pr. case study.', '7e9c76e89c401c6afd859c6f2735e0af', '', '', '109.56.119.225', '', NULL, 'Sidse-26-7e9c76e89c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-92ff940c35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(64, '14', 'forum', 26, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1492504652, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies & database', 'Firstly it is important to build confidence in a student.  As Meta is a complex creature and can be overwhelming let us not change the structure we have in place.  1 TISSUE PER CASE STUDY for practitioner, yes when they get to MASTER P then we can start expansion and it is my experience that students who are ready to evolve will   \r\nAlready the mind organ online is confusing my students as it seems to complex and has individuals opinions which is throwing a spanner in the works. Simplicity and confidence and layering in teachings is key', 'b0dc7fb93f1294549f118814967a21c5', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-b0dc7fb93f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(65, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492507737, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'Please tell me then how do you let your students document case studies with constellations? They belong to META-Health and the Level 2 + 3 syllabus.\r\n\r\nFrom a technical usability perspective for research, it makes no sense to just put them in \"other information\".\r\nThis has to be a point in the form, and __observed__ constellation symptoms both physical and psychological have to be mentioned.\r\nOf course, __not every point has to be filled in when it does not apply__.\r\n\r\nPlease when you disagree, make a proposal how this can be done so a case study is more than an exercise for students, but a valuable base for our further research, which they no doubt can be. I have lots of studies on my computer proving that, and they come mainly from students.', '1e407d7156160f554b9d608f148c916a', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-1e407d7156@www.meta-health.net', 'Sidse-26-7e9c76e89c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(66, '14', 'forum', 26, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1492508221, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Where is the new doc?\r\nWe can only have one tissue in one case until people become VERY experienced.', '688ff84568b849503fcea0a150460b59', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-26-688ff84568@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-f50dc67e15@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(67, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492508255, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Penny,\r\nof course we want to build confidence.\r\nI do this in giving them the papers for symptom differentiation and by exercises.\r\nYou have the freedom to let students nail down one tissue and if there are more symptoms connected that do not fit in there, or the symptoms from M-H perspective don\'t fit the medical diagnosis, what do you do? __That__ is confusing.', '2234bafeb1e181cf03dae6bd6050d371', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-2234bafeb1@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-b0dc7fb93f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(68, '14', 'forum', 26, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1492508795, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'You make one case for each tissue and write under observations to which other case this belongs', '76d4fdd495ecf94e7619eae331fad11b', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-26-76d4fdd495@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-1e407d7156@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(69, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492508839, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Lars, \r\nthere isn\'t a new doc-file yet untill everybody agrees how it will be. I added the other point in the __first post at the beginning of the thread__, for further discussion.\r\nPlease read the whole thread, as I don\'t want to have to repeat my arguments over and over. There are unanswered questions for you who argue for \"one case - one tissue\" in the final case studies we require students to submit for certification - not in exercises.\r\n\r\nPlus I asked everybody how they feel about ongoing submittal of cases for active practitioners (not necessarily trainers as they may not see clients)', 'aa6c1856513aa7e5e246624b81bd6b6a', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-aa6c185651@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-26-688ff84568@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(70, '14', 'forum', 26, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1492509126, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'Can you be a trainer without seeing clients or making trainings?\r\nThis thread is completely impossible to understand even if I have read all posts.\r\nI disagree with you in many ways.\r\nWe need to take this discussion in a live forum where we talk and minimise misunderstandings.', 'c0fe2d4fed56b5ae06e6ce72cac4003d', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-26-c0fe2d4fed@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-aa6c185651@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(71, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492509951, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Aw: Re: Case studies & database', 'There are trainers who after a while only focus on trainings, that\'s what I mean. So they would lose the __active__ MP status. When they don\'t conduct trainings, after a while they would lose their __active__ trainer status.\r\n\r\nAnd yes we can discuss each argument in written form before meeting. We only have to read carefully.\r\nYou could summarize and quote:\r\n*What exactly are the points you disagree with, \r\n*the grounds on which you do that, \r\n*and the proposals where we can meet and mutually agree?\r\n\r\nTake your time, I\'m on internet detox until tomorrow evening :-)', '82045cdddafbff4c98bb0952916583c6', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-82045cddda@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-26-c0fe2d4fed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(72, '14', 'forum', 26, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1492517575, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Case studies & database', 'Hi Kora \r\nPersonally I think we are limited in making decisions on these forums partly due to language and nuances in someone responding \r\nPartly due to lack of time since this forum started it has become too time consuming and I do not always understand what you or others are talking about \r\nTherefore my suggestion is that we chink each section down and have a meeting to discuss not argue (!) each section \r\nI do not have the time nor the energy for all this going and froing', '8805c5ad9d550d3ba636e498794dc339', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-8805c5ad9d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-2234bafeb1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(73, '14', 'forum', 26, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1492568809, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Case studies submission, database and beyond', '__Hi Everybody__\r\n\r\nHope you all had a nice Easter Break\r\n\r\nnice to see such an active and lively discussion\r\n\r\nThere are a number points mentioned that I would like to cover\r\n\r\nThere seems to be some confusion about what were actually discussing here, I must admit to not being entirely clear as to the purpose of this thread.\r\n\r\nIt also would appear to me that some extra distinctions are required in order to make clear what were actually discussing, and the overall purpose\r\n\r\n__It would appear to me that there are two key topics being discussed here__\r\n\r\n1: Should the data capture requirement for the Tiki include multiple fields for different Organs?\r\n2: Should MHP students be expected to be able to do non linear health analysis?\r\n\r\nAfter 9 years of teaching the Practitioner Level, Jo and I have developed much material that assists the students to develop their sophistication over time in a way that is natural\r\n\r\nthe majority of students coming to courses don\'t have extensive training in systems approach to enquiry or systems biology and any previous education, even so called \"scientific\" education is on the whole reductionistic, which doesn\'t prepare them for the necessary complexities and understandings required to conduct a thorough methodologically sound META-Health analysis \r\n\r\nIt is on this basis that I would say that at the MHP level we tend to focus on students working backwards from a __single physical symptom and organ tissue__ through triggers and towards the underlying psycho-emotional conflict (tracks) to ease them into the world of META-Health. So I agree with Lars, Penny and Sidse and Lisbeth in this respect\r\n\r\nIn terms of a database for case studies, that is a different matter as we IMMA members require a single database for all case studies no matter what level someone is working from.\r\nTherefore I would suggest there needs to be separate project to define a functional then later technical specification with the help of Thorsten to define a case study data model, that will stand the test of time.\r\n\r\nSo if the above is the case we would need to discuss the MHP case study data capture form and evaluation criteria alongside MHMP data capture forms and evaluation criteria. \r\n\r\nif we are to approach this discussion/exercise from a systems (META) perspective the following MHP, MHMP, MHS, MHT, MHMT, MHPE,   Syllabus, qualification standards, assessment and evaluation criteria would all be required to be discussed generally and as a whole before we can see how the MHP case study, examination and Viva evaluation all fit together to form a certification standard and how the MHP standard relate to the MHMP and MHMT standards etc..\r\n\r\nas the case study forms only a part of the assessment criteria for MHP then to begin with and for the sake of being (META) systemic, it might prove advantageous to discuss this in relation to the test, and the live evaluation (VIVA) also\r\n\r\nI feel this would allow a more comprehensive discussion about certification standards before we move on to making decisions about formalising any parts of the assessment system for any levels of education and certification being offered by IMMA certified MHMT\'s\r\n\r\nIn regards of the above I don\'t believe this to be the appropriate medium.  Zoom, or some other conferencing system might be preferable\r\n\r\nLove, light and the energies of evolution to one and all', '268262920e72a375241ef7cd079f2deb', '', '', '82.0.13.27', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-26-268262920e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(74, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1492631444, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Case studies submission, database and beyond', 'Hi Robert,\r\nas you see in the first post starting the thread, the discussion should be about our case database and the preferred format only, NOT about evaluation and how we train our students. IMMA\'s portal is also our base for research and it has the potential to compare cases, therefore I\'d like to give the case study form a format that is useful for that. Of course all valuable information should fit in there. This is not to say that all points must be filled out, especially by beginners. \r\nWe can gladly meet on ZOOM with the clear subject in mind. Will you propose a date & time for that please?', '398ad84f4feb83063f45885a265a0705', '', '', '83.55.89.168', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-398ad84f4f@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-26-268262920e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(75, '11', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1492723359, 56, 's', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Nobody is perfect!', 'If you feel that our software is acting weird, the best solution to get help as soon as possible is: \r\n\r\n__Send an email to [mailto:support@meta-health.net | support@meta-health.net]!__ \r\n\r\nOur support team does not monitor Facebook, Twitter or WhatsApp for support inquiries!\r\n\r\nFurther informations like operating system, browser or screenshots are appreciated - as well as a dash of patience. IMMA is a non profit organization mainly based on voluntary work.', '076dbcf1a63a877bffae7c2e755fce4f', '', '', '83.59.140.119', '', '', 'Thorsten-0-db0a8dc676@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(76, '11', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1492733655, 50, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Notifications or not?', 'Many users don\'t login daily to the portal and prefer to get notifications by email to be up to date what\'s going on in the forums. Therefore group notifications are activated as standard for all public forums (but not for the private forums). Of course, that\'s like scanning the newspaper. What\'s interesting for me and what\'s not? \r\n\r\nSome of you might prefer instead to activate and deactivate their notifications individually. In this case send an email to [mailto:support@meta-health.net | support@meta-health.net] and ask for deactivation of the general notifications. You can choose for each forum separetely if you like to monitor it or not. Simply click the symbol \"arrow down\" to the right for selecting the respective forum action.\r\n\r\nSimply choose your personal preference:\r\n\r\n* general notifications with active opt out (standard)\r\n* individual notifications with active opt in', 'a7964220e0fb7f4ca5473b2c16dec1fd', '', '', '83.59.140.119', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-a7964220e0@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(77, '4', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1493292680, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'META-Health video channel', 'I\'d like IMMA to have an own youtube and/or vimeo channel, where we upload META-Health related educational videos for the public, like the Conference videos, webinar replays and short clips.\r\nThe advantage is that IMMA then can handle these without depending on third parts, we can coordinate promotion, and we create public benefit which a non-profit-organization is about.\r\n\r\nThis would be a project for a workgroup to create, maintain and coordinate.', '5be56c632a909ca493b76a1e142f49bd', '', '', '83.51.156.223', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-5be56c632a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(78, '12', 'forum', 35, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1493526891, 6, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Dear Thorsten, many thanks for your reply. Even though I mentioned that I am out of office I would like to suggest that we create a  questionnaire for the Master Trainers about their planed trainings for 2017 and 2018 and about the Trainers who have been trained by them. As Kora mentioned at our last talk we need to integrate the Trainers more in the workgroups and committees.\r\n\r\nIn Neckarsulm at the MT convention amongst other things we agreed upon the criteria for MT\'s to maintain their MT status (is there an upload of the minutes of the MT convention on the wiki?).\r\nFirst the board needs to  decide whether the proposals of Nerckarsulm will be adopted. If so then the committee for standard and certification can draw up the questionnaire for the MT\'s and send an email where IMMA committee for standards and certification offers assistance for MT\'s who have not trained yet, or who have stopped training. It would be optimal to send this out before the online MT meeting.\r\n\r\nMany thanks Kwesi.\r\n\r\nPS Did you have time to complement the tasks of the board directors on the homepage? CEO, deputy CEO? or can you delegate it to Mhelizza?', '6007276c7075bf000cc18b09748cae86', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-35-6007276c70@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-35-0621a16b2a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(79, '12', 'forum', 35, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1493527338, 4, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Thorsten I have an organisational and technical question. Is it possible to switch in the wiki from English to German? I also need access to the German wiki. \r\n Warm regards Kwesi', '7af4bf9f2a0639b1cd58f82108581c13', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-35-7af4bf9f2a@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-0-8fcc6d5daa@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(80, '5', 'forum', 0, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1493527557, 25, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Teaching material', 'Hi Kora,\r\ndo we have our teaching material that was uploaded on google drive in German and English (PDF, Powerpoint/Keynote) uploaded on the wiki for the MT\'s and Trainers?\r\n\r\nWarm regards\r\n\r\nKwesi', 'dc04c9a8fa190f40857571eb7c85ede4', '', '', '2.30.153.122', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-0-dc04c9a8fa@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(81, '12', 'forum', 79, 'Thorsten', 1493550304, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'There\'s a language switcher up in the left corner, over the header pic.', 'fec1865705828697e591b62aec4a5fde', '', '', '83.51.152.161', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-79-fec1865705@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-35-7af4bf9f2a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(82, '5', 'forum', 80, 'Kora', 1493552923, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Kwesi,\r\nI uploaded the common material I got (mostly from Johannes/Walter 2012-14), and some I created, in \"shared files\". (Some are too big to normally upload, requires a special procedure...)\r\nWe are searching Google Drive again if there is more to find, and upload here. Need also to work out categories so everything is easy to find, when there will be time...\r\n\r\nAll MTs should be asked for material to share, so white-label quality versions can be put together - another group project.\r\n\r\nBest, Kora', '7174ccf3be221a9922fb44ac7fcbc208', '', '', '83.51.152.161', '', NULL, 'Kora-80-7174ccf3be@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-0-dc04c9a8fa@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(83, '5', 'forum', 80, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1493553384, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Dear Kora,\r\nMany thanks.  \r\n\r\nWarm regards\r\n\r\nKwesi', '77ef09703a6942ffc730c88f29b1f41d', '', '', '213.205.252.240', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-80-77ef09703a@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-0-dc04c9a8fa@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(84, '12', 'forum', 78, 'Thorsten', 1493554367, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Unfortunately the minutes from the MT Convention in NSU were obviously not complete. See the [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2027| PDF here] or in the file galleries > documents > Master Trainer.\r\n\r\nThe discussion about the MTs\' status is related with the question of accredited trainers and trainings (which came up after NSU). Probably a point to discuss on the MT online meeting first.\r\n\r\nI\'ve completed the page [https://www.meta-health.info/imma/organization/|Organization] on the public site with informations about the management. In my opinion that\'s for the first enough to be presented to the public. On META-Health Net we can have some more information about IMMA\'s working structure. To be done after the MT online meeting.\r\n\r\nAt the moment Kora and I have editor permissions on IMMA\'s public website. Waiting for the PR workgroup to be constituted.', 'b37610ac4194cdb0fd3db4d77e204863', '', '', '83.51.152.161', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-78-b37610ac41@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-35-6007276c70@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(85, '14', 'forum', 0, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1493682484, 71, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Certification', 'Please can someone advise me of who is creating the certificates \r\nI have 3 practitioners waiting for their certificates and Mehlizza has advised me to ask here.\r\nOn that note is Mehlizza not working for META anymore?', '181361533a7c0663b2f1fbe3aa26b561', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-181361533a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(86, '14', 'forum', 85, 'Thorsten', 1493684793, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Penny, please use only the email address __[mailto:support@meta-health.net|support@meta-health.net]__ for any support inquiries like this. Concrete informations make it much easier for us to help you asap.\r\n\r\nAnd please keep in mind that IMMA is a non profit organization for public benefit. We don\'t have the budget for a 24/7 support. Most of the work here is done voluntarily :-)', '21e8dff6ed78973f39f30e592ca864ab', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-85-21e8dff6ed@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-181361533a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(87, '14', 'forum', 85, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1493685440, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Thorsten\r\nPlease note, i do not expect an immediate response from you.  I am not expecting you to work 24/7 so i do not understand your response, as there was little need for it.\r\nI also do not understand why i would have to send a private message about something as critical as certificates, which involves all master trainers. \r\nI have now asked 5 other master trainers and no one has a clue, so i thought it would be wise to ask here, therefore we can all be updated with information. Less work for you if we can all share what is happening and i can update my students.\r\nThank you!', '07d18531e781e978995879c73707f24d', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-85-07d18531e7@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-85-21e8dff6ed@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(88, '14', 'forum', 85, 'Thorsten', 1493686689, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Penny!\r\n\r\nIMMA has actually five official e-mail addresses for different functions in the working structure - making sure that the right persons will receive the inquiries immediately:\r\n\r\n• office@meta-health.net => general inquiries\r\n• support@meta-health.net => technical support\r\n• board@meta-health.net => the Board of Directors\r\n• certification@meta-health.net => the Certification Committee\r\n• news@meta-health.net => coordinator of PR workgroup\r\n\r\nThis information has been published to all Master Trainers together with the agenda of the last MT meeting.\r\n\r\nSo please send your inquiry regarding the certificates to __[mailto:support@meta-health.net|support@meta-health.net]__.\r\n\r\nThanks for helping to make the organization work smoothly!', 'e1a9bdc8ecfd6a7c411d809987687f1c', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', '', 'Thorsten-85-df845a9237@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-181361533a@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(89, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1493749434, 136, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Visions and mission statement for IMMA', 'Please share in this thread what vision we have for IMMA , and how the mission statement should be formulated, that appear on IMMA website!', 'a55ac8a141103af6a58411dbc612ba1e', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-a55ac8a141@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(90, '6', 'forum', 89, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1493749747, 21, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The vision of the administrative board - Kwesi, Anton, Lars\r\nWe want to support the healing of the individual and the whole\r\nWe want to walk our talk\r\nWe want to support and inspire all IMMA members to be present and realise their full potential in the NOW\r\n\r\nMission\r\nTo transform how people, doctors, therapists and patients communicate about symptoms\r\nTo transform healthcare in the world', '82044d0af3992809955af4e881a6d392', '', '', '80.62.117.62', '', '', 'lars@mygind.dk-25-90fbad0f8c@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-8a5095c97f@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(93, '6', 'forum', 89, 'Kora', 1493761614, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Personal vision of Kora for IMMA:\r\n*I like IMMA to be an umbrella organization for lifestyle, therapy and scientific work based on understanding of the interconnections of body, mind, the environment and purpose.\r\n*I like us to be a community of individuals who share core concepts but who are free to develop the model further and who are peer-reviewing each other\'s work.\r\n*I like us to prove our model by testing and applying it in our lives, to accept feedback, and to keep an open mind.\r\n*I like us to accept that everybody is on a healing journey and to be compassionate with each other.\r\n*I want IMMA to be a professional and transparent organization where conflicts are handled professionally and ethically.\r\n\r\n I like to add to above mission statement \r\n\"To transform how people, doctors, therapists and patients communicate about symptoms \r\nTo transform healthcare in the world \" ~~#00F:by offering alternative ways backed by convincing evidence ~~', '249f860c117204a90b2d5ad35df49c3e', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Kora-90-249f860c11@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a55ac8a141@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(94, '14', 'forum', 85, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1493829478, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Thank you Thorsten \r\nMy practitioners are delighted and so am i.\r\nThe only query is and i apologise in advance as have not had a chance to read the email they recieved with certificate, was Kora saying it was out of date? \r\nThank you again', '221e2b8c934023bfae4e9b6b63d834c1', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-85-221e2b8c93@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-85-df845a9237@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(95, '14', 'forum', 85, 'Thorsten', 1493838845, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'See the template which Mhelizza had used:\r\n\r\n^Dear ...,\r\n\r\nYour Master Trainer ... just confirmed that you have fulfilled all requirements for your META-Health Practitioner certification based on the new 2017 certification standards.\r\n\r\n__CONGRATULATIONS__, please find attached your META-Health Practitioner certificate.\r\n\r\nPlease do __continue your training__ into META-Health by participating in our ongoing trainings and to reach the next certification levels and become a\r\nMETA-Health Master Practitioner (META-MP) and a META-Health Specialist (META-MPS). See www.meta-health.org/standards\r\n\r\nTo __update your profile__ (which will help you attract more clients) and access members benefits like webinars and the organ directory please log into the members area at www.meta-health.net using your email and personal password (or default password meta2012).\r\n\r\nPlease fill out your full profile and especially add a headshot photo.\r\n\r\nThe __NEW META-Health Organ Directory__ (Online and Mobile Access) is available now and we can only recommend the organ directory for all trainees and certified members.  You can access the directory via any browser plus any Android or iOS app and review the extensive descriptions of conflicts, stress triggers, emotions, beliefs and lifestyle choices affecting organ symptoms. For mobile app screen shots and to order please visit http://metamedicine.info/en/handbook-directory-app.php.\r\n\r\nLooking forward seeing you at our upcoming webinars, trainings and conferences.\r\n\r\nBe META-Healthy,^\r\n\r\nThis is a horrible mix of up to date and out of date information. Therefore I\'ve asked Mhelizza no longer to use templates like this.\r\n\r\n__So we need completely new templates at least for the standard situations__: \r\n\r\n*new member (supporting only)\r\n*new member (trainee)\r\n*sending certificate META-P\r\n*sending certificate META-MP\r\n\r\nRegarding our slogan \'\'__Inspiration for Transformation__\'\' I\'d be grateful for input from the MTs. Especially native English speakers are welcome to help phrasing the templates then.', '84127f459c39b7a7aa8d55152e3ce0e6', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-85-84127f459c@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-85-221e2b8c93@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(96, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1493912444, 112, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Standard & evaluation of META-Health Practitioner (Level 2) PROPOSAL', '~~#00F:As we need __core__ standards & requirements which are measurable and clearly formulated, I propose following changes~~\r\n\r\n!!!META-P Milestone Assessment \r\nUsing the IMMA evaluation form Master Trainers needs to ensure that the trainee is qualified in the \r\n12 META-Health Questions Process, demonstrating proficiency in META-Health Analysis, creating \r\na META-Health Action Plan. See META-P Evaluation Sheet. \r\n\r\n~~#00F:Everybody ok with that we keep this passage? ~~\r\n \r\n!!!IMMA Standards for META-P Certification\r\nPrerequisite: META-Health Basic 2-Day Training (or equivalent)\r\n*~~#00F:Minimum~~ 125 hours of training --(over 6 months)-- ~~#00F:(It doesn\'t matter how long the hours are spread out, depends on the learning style)~~\r\n*Clear understanding of META-Health Analysis & Therapy Process and 8 Milestones, ~~#00F:shown by a demo of the 12-questions process and the submitted case studies, accepted by accredited Master Trainer and/or the Certification Committee)~~\r\n*--Demonstrates strong proficiency in META-Health Analysis-- ~~#00F:Ability to distinguish between typical symptom qualities in Brain Stem, Cerebellum, Cerebral Medulla and Cerebral Cortex with the help of charts/wiki~~\r\n*~~#00F:Ability to guide a client to find a META-meaning in their symptom~~\r\n*Create an ~~#00F:individual ~~results-oriented META-Health Action/Therapy Plan ~~#00F:based on the pattern and META-meaning found~~\r\n*--Effective in using-- ~~#00F:Ability to use~~ an emotional/stress trigger technique, belief change and real-life solutions, ~~#00F:shown in demo and case studies~~\r\n*~~#00F:Minimum~~ 5 --high quality and-- well-documented cases with clients submitted  and uploaded to IMMA database ~~#00F:(how would \"high quality\" be defined...?)~~\r\n*--Trainee needs to be willing to work on own health and personal growth issues-- ~~#00F:(Yes, but this is not going to be forced out in the framing of a training, so we could leave that out??)~~\r\n*Theory testing through IMMA Online Exam ~~#00F:or other IMMA-accredited theory exam~~\r\n*Practical testing by Master Trainer ~~#00F:or Certification Committee~~ using Assessment Form\r\n*IMMA membership is required (to access online exam, organ directory and to be certified)\r\n*~~#00F:Accredited~~ Master Trainer sends ~~#00F:list of~~ confirmed students to IMMA for Board-Certification. ~~#00F:Alternatively, lateral entrants and students of non-accredited Trainers can apply to the Certification Committee to be examined and certified, providing required theory exam, case studies and demonstration of live META-Health coaching process.~~', '4be2a48df275e5ac8b47597591cec5a4', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-4be2a48df2@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(97, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1493938435, 42, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Master Trainer Meeting 2017-05-02', 'Find attached a summary of the meeting and the recording on Vimeo (private link):\r\n\r\n[https://vimeo.com/215837663/55e9731585]', '93f450783e7850b791af7c0bead92eb2', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-93f450783e@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(98, '6', 'forum', 89, 'Thorsten', 1493987762, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'For inspiration see also [tiki-download_file.php?fileId=2055| this pdf file] about Meta-definitions (sent from Anton by email).', '318d4af2290f9d48a9f0ec7f197962a5', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', '', 'Thorsten-89-0043bc95d7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a55ac8a141@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(99, '14', 'forum', 97, 'Thorsten', 1493988085, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'See Anton\'s statement attached (it was sent by email).', '899b6ebd19f34d353da6b65a7fee20cd', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-97-899b6ebd19@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-93f450783e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(100, '14', 'forum', 97, 'Kora', 1493991454, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Thank you Anton for your input. I want to add to certain points:\r\n\r\n~~#996:\"- we should implement  in the nex times only 1 workgroup  :\r\nPR, and the first task is to define what IMMA or Meta-Health is (as discussed yesterday). All of us who have a idea\r\nshould give this idea to Penny and Christa (I hope my remember of this 2 persons are correct)\"~~\r\n\r\nThe superior task we have a deadline for is the review of standards and certification requirements. This is something exclusively for the MTs to participate, and I have opened a forum thread with a first proposal for Level 2 here: [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=96&topics_offset=1] , from which we can go into details when agreeing on the basics.\r\nPlease confirm, add or give alternatives, so we can move through this until mid of june!\r\n\r\nFor visions and mission statement, which Penny, Christa & Sidse will formulate, even a forum thread was created by Lars during the meeting as a base to work from: http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=89&topics_offset=0\r\nThis thread is open for all members.\r\n\r\n~~#996:\"- the topic: complains\r\nIf there is a complain, the first step ist to give this complain to the MT who is responsible for the person. If the complai-\r\nner has no trust in his MT, than he should give his complain to the board. And the boardmembers decide who have to\r\nanswer. It is not good to give tasks to a group of persons: no effect is doing because each of the group thinks that the\r\nother will do something.\"~~\r\n\r\nThere is a misunderstanding here. What we need for complaints and mediation is a __pool__ of people which are neutral in respect to the cause in question. These need not to be board members nor MTs. All complaints can formally be submitted to office@meta-health.net to be forwarded to the board or the appropriate person.\r\n\r\n~~#996:\"- it should be clear for all trainers etc: all pictures, presentations which a trainer gives to Meta-Health/IMMA is open for\r\nall members. There is no need to declare as protected.\"~~\r\n\r\nWe just need to have the confirmation that everybody is fine with that, and to have this written. Right now, I am uploading old material from Johannes, and newer material I created. Visible under \"File galleries\" - \"[http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=9|shared]\".', '458d798189434eff45dca83be13e3b73', '', '', '83.59.142.49', '', NULL, 'Kora-97-458d798189@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-93f450783e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(101, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1494190656, 37, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Standard & evaluation of META-Health Master Practitioner (Level 3) PROPOSAL', '~~#00F:This proposal to change IMMA standard 8 (which is also merely a proposal) aims at clarifying how to assess the required skills. Please acknowledge, add, or give alternative wordings. /Kora~~\r\n\r\n!!!META-MP Milestone Assessment \r\nTo be certified as a META-Health Master Practitioner a trainee needs to demonstrate competence in \r\nMETA-Health Analysis and Therapy by verifying 5 well documented and reviewed client cases ~~#00F:with follow-up on the 1st session, or consisting of several sessions~~\r\n--where at least 3 or more of these META-Health milestones have been achieved with the client.--\r\n\r\n!!!Training Content:\r\n* Advanced META-Health Analysis Process ~~#00F:covering secondary conflicts, constellations and interactions of symptoms~~\r\n* In-depth Organ Review (Organ  reactions, META-Meanings, ~~#00F:differential diagnosis~~)\r\n* --Differential Analysis (Complex or Undefined Symptoms) -- ~~#00F:(Already mentioned)~~\r\n* Advanced Constellations (Organ Combinations), & complex symptoms\r\n* Anatomy and Physiology, Interconnectedness of organ systems ~~#00F:(e.g. via Wiki)~~\r\n* Deepening Rapport, Presence and Intuitive Skills\r\n* Communication Skills (Chunking from Global to Specific, Reframing, Language Patterns)  \r\n* Advanced Elicitations (VAKOGS Triggers, Beliefs, Values, Internal Map, Eye Movements)\r\n* --Two-Phases Association Technique (Awareness of  Symptoms during Stress and Regeneration)--\r\n* Deepen Emotion and Stress Trigger Release Technique\r\n* Belief Work (e.g. 4-Questions Technique, Reframing)\r\n* Values --Hierachy and-- Alignment ~~#00F:& Priority work~~\r\n* --Soul-utions (Transformations Process)-- ~~#00F:(The 3 above points are transformatory?!)~~\r\n* Advanced integrative META-Health Therapy Plan ~~#00F:including several Milestones~~\r\n▪ --Marketing Yourself (Essential skills to create a successful practice)-- ~~#00F:(This is not a META-Health skill and should rather be provided as IMMA benefit for members workshop; can otherwise be included in training but not a must)~~\r\n\r\n!!!IMMA Standards for META-MP Certification\r\n* Prerequisite: META-Health Practitioner\r\n* Additional 125 hours of training --(over 6 months)--\r\n* Excellence in Advanced META-Health Analysis ~~#00F:shown in live demo and 5 well-documented and followed-up case studies~~\r\n* ~~#00F:Excellent rapport-building skills, demonstrated in practice demo~~\r\n* ~~#00F:Can find out and explain the experienced symptom pattern to the client to create AHA, shown in practice demo~~\r\n* Confidence in META-Health Therapy ~~#00F:shown in live demo and 5 well-documented and followed-up case studies~~\r\n* Establish trainee’s effective use of a Stress Trigger-Emotion Release Technique, Belief-Values Alignment and --Real-life Solutions Process-- ~~#00F:META-Health Milestones, shown in practice demo~~\r\n* --3-- ~~#00F:12~~ month practice with own clients ~~#00F:, previous experience merited~~\r\n* --5 well documented and reviewed client cases-- ~~#00F:(already mentioned)~~\r\n* IMMA META-MP Online Exam successfully completed ~~#00F:(exam needs to be reviewed, perhaps better to give client case exercises instead?)~~\r\n* --Testing of Analysis and Therapy Session via Live Demonstration-- ~~#00F:(already mentioned)~~\r\n* IMMA membership is required (to access online exam, organ directory and to be certified)\r\n* ~~#00F:Accredited ~~Master Trainer sends ~~#00F:list of ~~confirmed students to IMMA for Board-Certification. ~~#00F:Alternatively, lateral entrants and students of non-accredited Trainers can apply to the Certification Committee to be examined and certified, providing required theory exam, case studies and demonstration of live META-Health coaching process. ~~', '188903d0cdbe8704442b7e350dbc1e83', '', '', '83.51.159.160', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-188903d0cd@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(102, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1494342304, 24, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Deborah\'s MPE thesis (not finalized, wants feedback)', 'Attached Deborah Wiggins-Hay\'s thesis on hypothyreosis.\r\nStill unfinished, and she likes feedback/directions what she needs to add for to be accepted.', '09b89fd9ce4b09c59d51d718aa910c5f', '', '', '83.55.93.129', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-09b89fd9ce@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(103, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1494358361, 13, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'working structure for Certification Committee', '\r\nThis committee is led by Robert & Kora as directors. Furthermore, Diana & Lisbeth are members. The Committee is open to more members who can contact certification@meta-health.net\r\n\r\nTask of this committee is to formulate certification standards for all IMMA levels & titles, to accredit trainings and trainers to match these standards, and to perform/coordinate certain certification procedures like the MPE certification which is not done by a particular Master Trainer who provided their training.\r\n\r\nThe Committee needs support from other Master Trainers and members to formulate clear and accepted core standards (hence standards discussions in the MT forum), as well as from the Scientific Council and MTs with special competence for peer-review of submitted MPE theses.\r\n\r\nIn case of the current MPE candidates, a certification team was announced to them consisting of Kwesi, Lars, Kora, Johannes, Walter. It is augmented with Robert and Diana.\r\n\r\nMPE certification procedure to be established: \r\n*Application of the candidate  to certificationmpe@meta-health.net, providing required documentation\r\n*Prerequisites IMMA membership and MP status to be confirmed by support\r\n*Prerequisite 250 training hours moreover MP confirmed by candidate, referring to the trainings absolved\r\n*Practice demo and case studies to be reviewed and accepted by one Committee member according to MT evaluation form ~~#00F:(How to choose the Committee member?)~~\r\n*Peer review of submitted thesis by at least 3 competent members who comment and pose questions to the candidate where explanation or expansion would be needed before being accepted ~~#00F:(how to reach these members?)~~\r\n*A way of communication with each MPE candidate has to be established, perhaps via a chosen mentor?\r\n*When all requisites are submitted and accepted, the applications are presented to the Board of Directors, Certification signed ~~#00F:(by Committee directors?)~~, and sent by Support.\r\n\r\nAs there is quite some work involved, in future a certification fee should be paid by the candidate, which should be divided between IMMA and those (Committee members) who have to engage in reading, mentoring and evaluating.\r\n~~#F00:\r\nPlease comment, especially proposals regarding the questions!~~', '0217c20f055f02b4abafddfd91268a72', '', '', '83.55.93.129', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-0217c20f05@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(104, '14', 'forum', 97, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1494932777, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Dear Torsten \r\nI would like if you would send the following text out to all MT\'s in an Email. \r\nTo ease the communication, it is important that the mail is send out as a group mail so people are able to ask questions directly.\r\nI will also send this in a email directly to you as I am not sure what is the easiest for you to handle.\r\nThe following is the text to be sent:\r\n-----   \r\nIt is time to find a date for the next MT meeting.\r\nFor now I would like to take the responsibility for arranging the MT meetings, as nobody else has taken the initiative on this. \r\n\r\nIt is important that you as a Master Trainer support the progress in IMMA by joining in. \r\n\r\nYou will receive the agenda shortly.\r\n\r\nAttached is the minutes from the last MT Meeting. \r\nYou can see comments on the on the minutes from last MT meeting in the wiki-tiki forum here \r\nhttp://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=97 \r\n\r\nHere is a link for the Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/65haecby54wtg2fw \r\nPlease sign up before the 22nd of may. \r\n\r\nLooking forward to see you.\r\nYours sincerely\r\nLisbeth Lundgaard\r\n--------', '36f878ec2b1c9defee8a4bca6378924f', '', '', '94.145.145.179', '', '', 'metafys@gmail.com-97-a90c433dfd@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-93f450783e@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(105, '14', 'forum', 0, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1496008179, 133, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'List of Master Trainers Please Worldwide', 'It would be great to have a list of Master Trainers please', '302e3ac989af4b8f20cdc852f60ab253', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(106, '14', 'forum', 105, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1496040677, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Yes I agree', '614c724b2f01a34f50d7ba71f327cb29', '', '', '94.145.144.94', '', NULL, 'metafys@gmail.com-105-614c724b2f@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(107, '14', 'forum', 105, 'Thorsten', 1496041117, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'We\'re updating the member database at the moment. More info at the Master Trainer Meeting next wednesday.', '9548257566de7c3f2bfb7ac3a272f6bf', '', '', '212.17.162.6', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-105-9548257566@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(108, '14', 'forum', 105, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1496045957, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Perhaps if we had a list, we could invite more M Trainers?', '9cd5b1be7702c7a4169f154c98826992', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-105-9cd5b1be77@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(109, '14', 'forum', 105, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1496056350, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'It is relevant to have this list now, as this will enable us to reach out to the MT\'s.\r\n\r\nRe information on the MT-meeting: will you brief me on this Torsten - is it informational or a topic for debate, and content.', '37c502d8bd6bcee190a1a068a7b1b435', '', '', '94.145.144.94', '', NULL, 'metafys@gmail.com-105-37c502d8bd@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(110, '14', 'forum', 105, 'Thorsten', 1496086414, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'All Master Trainers can be reached by sending emails via office@meta-health.net. There are good reasons to use only this way:\r\n\r\n#The official mailing list is up to date.\r\n#The mail server is well configurated.\r\n#The delivery of email is controlled.\r\n#Sending is in compliance with the laws for data protection.', 'df7c218db7e5d3e08737715f3b221712', '', '', '212.17.162.6', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-105-df7c218db7@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-302e3ac989@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(113, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1496262050, 27, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Standard & evaluation of META-MPE (Level 4) PROPOSAL', '~~#00F:__Please comment if this would be a clear definition of the title, and if you want IMMA to integrate this level of competence.__~~\r\n---\r\n\r\n!!META-Health Level 4 - Expert (META-MPE)\r\n!!!Prerequisite\r\n*Completed Level 3 (Certified Master Practitioner)\r\n*At least 2 years of professional work and experience with META-Health\r\n\r\n!!!Competency Guidelines & Client Outcome:\r\nA certified META-MPE is competent to work with all kinds of bodymind symptoms implementing the META-Health Milestones and is considered an expert in META-Health and in their special field of experience and work.\r\n\r\n!!!Ongoing Training\r\nStudents achieve excellence in META-Health Analysis, Therapy & Coaching through ongoing education and working experience.\r\nAt least 250 hours of studies relevant for META-Health theory and practice must be documented moreover the Level 1, 2, 3 trainings.\r\nSpecial education is collected by the student / professional to fit their need and can be provided inside or outside IMMA.\r\n\r\n!!!Expertise & Thesis\r\nMPE students become experts in a chosen field, which can be a health issue/organ (like Eyes, Pain) or a field of practice, that forwards common META-Health knowledge and skills.\r\nThey create an own work (thesis) consisting of at least 50 pages, alternatively an extensive video presentation or similar.\r\n\r\nA MPE student will choose a mentor to help them select a topic and support them with review and consulting. The thesis is submitted to the Certification Committee for approval. The scientific council stands for peer review.\r\n\r\nAt least 5 of 10 case study documentations (to be submitted to the Certification Committee) should illustrate the thesis.\r\n\r\nThe Certification Committee can temporarily reject an application, thesis or cases submitted if\r\n*the case studies are presented in a way that does not show Master Practitioner standard\r\n*the thesis does not fulfill basic scientific requirements\r\n\r\nThe candidate will in this case ameliorate their material in order for it to be accepted.\r\n\r\n!!!Certification\r\nAfter the study and case documentations have been approved by the Certification Committee, and the Thesis submitted and peer-reviewed by the Scientific Council, it shall be published in the META-Health Community, to be accessible in META-Health newsletters, websites and META-Health information sources.\r\n\r\nThe candidate shall be invited to present their work in META-Health conferences and events. Preferredly, certification takes place at a global or local Conference.', '20df1f024764ebe961c7df35c47a928b', '', '', '212.17.162.6', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-20df1f0247@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(114, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1496265567, 58, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Standards for Speakers, Trainers and Master Trainers PROPOSAL ', '~~#00F:Please compare the levels and confirm or discuss.\r\nI left the numbers of completed trainings out as the handling seems to be inconsistent.~~\r\n\r\n!!META-Health Speaker\r\nPresents lectures to general public to educate and to promote own META-Health Practice\r\n\r\n!!!Prerequisites & Skills\r\n*META-Health Practitioner or Master Practitioner\r\n*Competent presenting META-Health models and client cases to general public\r\n*Recommended to do a Speaker\'s Training for communication skills and speaking before a group\r\n\r\n!!!Profile\r\n*Presents evening talks/lectures/online videos\r\n*Professionals can conduct workshops for their clients which include up to 4 hours of META-Health introduction/material\r\n*Is active in organizing META-Health events and/or participating in IMMA workgroup/newsletter\r\n\r\n!!!Permissions\r\n*Use of IMMA and META-Health logo\r\n*Use of shared material from META-Health courses in agreement with Master Trainer/mentor\r\n*Can create new/own material in agreement with Master Trainer/mentor \r\n\r\n!!!Certification\r\nNo certificate needed, every META-Health Professional can be a Speaker\r\n\r\n\r\n!!META-Health Trainer\r\nPresents 2-Day Seminars (Level 1 Foundation Course) for General Public and Health Professionals\r\n\r\n!!!Prerequisites & Skills \r\n*META-Health Master Practitioner and META-Health Speaker\r\n*At least 1 year experience with META-Health clients\r\n*Competent presenting META-Health models, brain layers & organ reactions, giving analysis demonstrations and leading exercises\r\n*Master Trainer or mentor supports and trains candidate \r\n*Recommended to do a foundation course (level 1) together with a certified Trainer or Master Trainer\r\n*Demonstrates professional, passionate and engaging presentation skills\r\n*Application to Certification Committee based on 2 other Master Trainer recommendations or live test by the Committee (for lateral entrants)\r\n\r\n!!!Profile & Expectations\r\n*Presents lectures/webinars, workshops, Level 1 foundation trainings\r\n*Is active in organizing META-Health events and/or participating in IMMA workgroup/newsletter\r\n*Can train segments and lead exercises as co-trainer in Level 2 or 3 along with Master Trainer\r\n\r\n!!!Permissions\r\n*Use of IMMA and META-Health logo\r\n*Use of shared material for Level 1\r\n*Use of shared material from Level 2/3 in agreement with Master Trainer/mentor\r\n*Can create new/own material in agreement with Master Trainer/mentor \r\n\r\n!!!Certification \r\nCandidate is certified by IMMA after demonstration of competence to Master Trainer/mentor. Preferredly, certification happens on a global or local Conference or public event.\r\n\r\n\r\n!!META-Health Master Trainer\r\nPresents Certification Trainings (Level 2 - Practitioner, Level 3 - Master Practitioner) and/or META-Health affiliated trainings / ongoing education for General Public and Health Professionals.\r\n\r\n!!!Prerequisites & Skills \r\n*META-Health Master Practitioner and META-Health Trainer\r\n*At least 2 years experience with META-Health clients\r\n*Demonstrates professional, passionate and engaging presentation skills\r\n*Competent presenting META-Health models, brain layers & organ reactions, giving analysis and therapy demonstrations and leading exercises\r\n*Experienced in teaching Level 1 Foundation Trainings\r\n*Recommended to first co-teach Level 2 alongside a certified Master Trainer\r\n*Application to Certification Committee based on 3 other Master Trainer recommendations or live test by the Committee/Board of Directors (for lateral entrants)\r\n\r\n!!!Profile & Expectations\r\n*Presents lectures/webinars, workshops, Level 1 foundation trainings and Level 2 Practitioner Trainings as well as supervision and support of META-Health Professionals in IMMA Community\r\n*Is active in organizing META-Health events and/or participating in IMMA workgroup/newsletter\r\n*Recommended to first teach segments as co-trainer in Level 3 along with experienced Master Trainer\r\n*Creates new training material and shares with IMMA Community\r\n\r\n!!!Permissions\r\n*Use of IMMA and META-Health logo\r\n*Use of shared material for Level 1/2/3\r\n*Can create new/own material which is peer-reviewed in IMMA community\r\n\r\n!!!Certification \r\nCandidate is certified by IMMA after demonstration of competence to group of Master Trainers/Certification Commitee. \r\nPreferredly, certification happens on a global or local Conference or public event.', '23c289b9228dcdeea5e27f1d8223378f', '', '', '212.17.162.6', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-23c289b922@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(115, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1496434765, 198, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Ethical Standards PROPOSAL', '~~#F00:__Jan 4, 2019: Please see the summary to be proposed to the Board at the bottom of the thread__~~\r\n\r\n!Ethical Principles\r\nIMMA\'s members are a community of professionals that use and spread META-Health.\r\nAll members aim to integrate META-Health into their lives.\r\n\r\nThrough our concept, we understand that all humans follow their biological needs:\r\n*to be sufficiently supplied\r\n*to feel protected from harm\r\n*to express our individuality\r\n*to be an accepted and loved part of a society\r\n\r\n!!General rules\r\n*Every META-Health Professional is entitled to use the META-Health and IMMA logos on their website and info material. These shall be used in descriptions of all accredited META-Health trainings.\r\n*Shared material on the member\'s portal, like graphics, presentations, articles etc, is free to be used. The author needs to be accredited. For some material, members need to have a certain level (Trainer, Master Trainer).\r\n*Members do not claim that they do \"better\" work or provide \"better\" training than another member. So on IMMA\'s website and newsletters, offers and trainings related to META-Health and their specialties can be described informatively (not in comparatives or superlatives).\r\n*Diversity is strength and META-Health is not defined by certain methods. Our different coaching, therapy and teaching styles fit different publics. We meet each other with respect to each one\'s personality.\r\n\r\n!!!Transparency \r\n*IMMA is steered by the Board of Directors with the input and feedback from her members. Any issues concerning the organization (inquiries, ideas, complaints etc) can be sent to office@meta-health.net or support@meta-health.net, or posted transparently in the member\'s portal www.meta-health.net.\r\n*All members are welcome to participate in mutual support, workgroups and committees (provided they have the required competence for the task). The member\'s portal provides forums for group exchange. Every month, a member notification is sent with IMMA news and current discussions.\r\n*The Board meetings are documented and saved on the member\'s portal. Members can ask to take insight into the minutes.\r\n\r\n!!!Conflicts \r\nWe know that territorial issues exist in every group, and that each of us has triggers which can make us react emotional where we believe to need to protect ourselves or to defend our position.\r\n\r\nWhen conflicts among members arise,\r\n*we seek help from a person in a neutral Meta-position. Mediator\'s work can be voluntary or paid.\r\n*we try to see and to grant the biological needs of the other person as well as our own.\r\n*unlike written information, we don\'t take everything said at face value.\r\n*A mediation ends with an agreement, mutual tolerance, or acceptance of limitations of certain rights.\r\n*If mediation is not accepted as an approach to learn from our conflicts, a member can be excluded from IMMA.\r\n\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Any additions or comments to this proposal? /Kora~~', 'b7cef8d808384dc03e563ae737e7e4a6', '', '', '212.17.162.31', '', '', 'Kora-0-8ed7aa6052@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(116, '14', 'forum', 115, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1496908666, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi\r\n\r\nHow do you want suggestion made? Shal I write old text and new text.\r\n\r\nWe do not need to invent to a lot, here is a fantastic set of ethical principles http://www.europsyche.org/contents/13134/statement-of-ethical-principles\r\n\r\nLars', 'c7ab4166c83c511f760757906376193d', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-115-c7ab4166c8@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8ed7aa6052@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(117, '14', 'forum', 115, 'Kora', 1496947519, 4, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Lars & all,\r\nyou can make your comments however it works best for you. Personally, I like to use colour for additions.\r\n\r\nThank you for the link. Of course we could just copy the general ethical standards from there, although in parts this is already covered in our [https://www.meta-health.info/imma/code-of-practice/|code of practice], and other parts may not apply or be relevant to us, so anyway this would need to be reviewed and specified. \r\n\r\nMy proposal was based on observations and feedback from inside our community where I think IMMA lacked written principles until now, to also hold her members accountable, so I find these things need to be covered.\r\n\r\n I attach the AAMET Principles Penny shared for comparison.', '7886a763a30879c2b5461b2191bebf0d', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-115-7886a763a3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8ed7aa6052@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(118, '14', 'forum', 113, 'Kora', 1496954911, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Read Lars\' comments inserted in the document here:', 'b7e07c4087fe024ef363b6670e745637', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-113-b7e07c4087@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20df1f0247@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(119, '14', 'forum', 101, 'Kora', 1496955033, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Read Lars\' comments inserted in the file here:', '34b8d7e110e7873f0060a61458f67c1f', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-101-34b8d7e110@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-188903d0cd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(120, '14', 'forum', 96, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1497078703, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'My suggestions (My comment in brackets)\r\nMinimum 125 hours of training over minimum 6 months (people need time to integrate META-Health)\r\nAbility to use an emotional/stress trigger technique, belief change and real-life solutions, shown in case studies (Delete Demo, people are not ready for a live demo at this level)\r\nCreate an individual META-Health Action/Therapy Plan (How do we measure results? Delete pattern and META meaining often I do not use it in a therapy plan)\r\nTrainee needs to be willing to work on own health and personal growth issues (This needs to be number one and our foundation for this work)\r\nThanks\r\nLars', '6af08881f2f640f5705d9a273b7d3702', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-96-6af08881f2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4be2a48df2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(121, '14', 'forum', 101, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1497079068, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Additional 125 hours of training (over minimum 6 months)\r\nSoulutions - Transformations Process (soulution is our trademark lets keep it or replace it with CPL in the UDIN moment CPL=calm, peaceful, light)\r\nConfidence in META-Health Therapy shown in live demo and 20 well-documented and followed-up case studies (20 cases is a minimum and we also demand that 10 of these cases must show how the therapy plan created the wanted result, the symptom is gone.)', '3ed3fa9f1b67acb45496249a61b28e06', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-101-3ed3fa9f1b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-188903d0cd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(122, '14', 'forum', 113, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1497079249, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'At least 25 of 50 case study documentations (to be submitted to the Certification Committee) should illustrate the thesis. (When I have been busy I have 8 clients per day. This is a very small number and I would also like that at least 15 cases of the 25 show a positive result, the disease or symptom is gone at least one month.', '62df9dbded0543542db0bae9bc72ffa0', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-113-62df9dbded@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20df1f0247@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(123, '14', 'forum', 114, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1497079660, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Trainer\r\nAt least 1 year experience with minimum 50 paying META-Health clients\r\n\r\nRecommended to do a foundation course (level 1) together with a certified Trainer or Master Trainer\r\nchanged to\r\nMust do a foundation course (level 1) together with a certified Trainer or Master Trainer\r\n\r\nMaster Trainer\r\nAt least 2 years experience with minimum 100 paying META-Health clients\r\nMust complete Level 2 at least three times preferred with different certified Master Trainers\r\nMust co-teach Level 2 alongside a certified Master Trainer', 'ffcae267b0ed80081b61b886dc640831', '', '', '185.126.109.165', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-114-ffcae267b0@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-23c289b922@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(124, '14', 'forum', 96, 'Kora', 1497123521, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Why would you think people are not ready for a __demo__ for certification? That\'s what we all did, working live with another person? All my students do a demo of the 12 questions process and don\'t have problems with it. Of course, one does not need to apply all of the transformational tools if not needed, but when we introduce those tools, practitioners may use them. What else would the SUD-scale be for, if not testing before and after the process? However, on Practitioner level I allow them to ask for help in these matters while doing their practice.\r\n\r\nWe teach the __META-meaning__ as one core of the process, as the 12 questions lead to find it and individual therapy and transformation is based on it (see all examples for META-meanings in the wiki), so this should certainly not be deleted. Perhaps you just have another name for it? A META-meaning is not equal with a biological conflict theme.\r\n\r\nWith __pattern__ I mean trauma triggering symptoms triggering emotions/beliefs - we want to break that cycle, and in my experience the secondary conflicts which arise through the symptoms are just as important to transform as the root cause. This issue often comes up in the courses, that people find out secondary issues (\"I\'m afraid of that pain\", \"I don\'t want my anger\" etc) first, and I find it important for sustainable therapy.\r\n\r\nOf course, everyone must be __willing to work on own issues__, and this is what people do when they practice with each other. My point was, as a trainer you __cannot force__ anyone to work on a specific issue, just as you would not force it in a client or in yourself - because only the individual feels when they are ready to release. This is BTW a prevention for dangerous Healing Peaks to occur as well.', '2b93b9ae618c19c25a37808fd952a2bb', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-96-2b93b9ae61@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-96-6af08881f2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(125, '14', 'forum', 101, 'Kora', 1497125353, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Up till now, I don\'t regularly mention \"soulution process\" in teaching, but use emotional release, resourcing, belief change and motivation/values as toolbox for transformation.\r\nAlthough I don\'t see it mentioned as trademark for IMMA - it means transformation of the conflict, right? Then we could leave it as a headline for internal work:\r\n*__Soulutions__ (Transformatory work):\r\n**Deepen Emotion and Stress Trigger Release Techniques\r\n**Belief Work (e.g. 4-Questions Technique, Reframing)\r\n**Values Alignment & Priority work \r\n\r\nI don\'t think we need that many extensively written up case studies from students - as trainers we are aware when they are ready and work effectively. I\'d prefer to include the case studies in a mentoring module besides or after the training, and I like all practitioners to keep documenting some few cases per year for to keep their active status. This would immensely increase the quality and size of our database!\r\n\r\nFor __therapy results, a satisfaction with the outcome__ of a session is good for me. Sometimes it\'s not about the symptom itsself but about the resourcefulness to handle it that is needed, and that can just be the META-meaning.', '72d82741f20849f0a1a0526c54671714', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-101-72d82741f2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-188903d0cd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(126, '14', 'forum', 113, 'Kora', 1497126697, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Right now the candidates had to do 5 (extensive) studies which was agreed on by the administrative board?! Who should review all these cases??\r\nSorry I find that number quite illusory. 8 clients per day is not a small number, as more than 60 minutes is a usual session duration. \r\nStudents at that stage are usually not as busy, as long as META-Health is not that well-known everywhere yet. There are several from the \"Specialist\" course who were complaining to struggle to get clients, or sometimes to get them to follow up.\r\nIMO, such a requirement makes this title/training much less attractive to do unless we provide the cases.\r\nJohannes opened the MHU Clinic for the Specialists. I\'m not aware of it having been overwhelmed with clients yet... :-(', '90a917e46e5f05b6d4cca7f9dac0fe4e', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-113-90a917e46e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20df1f0247@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(127, '4', 'forum', 10, 'Kora', 1497212858, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The __META-Health Professionals list__ needs to be updated before reinstallation, and named members need to have paid their membership fee, For to be able to track their status, professionals must be registered on our portal, and provide information about their contact and offers.\r\n\r\nA list of __current trainings and events__ can be posted both in newsletters and on the website by sending the information to office@meta-health.net.', '9bbcd50533073d915f467382358aa350', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-10-9bbcd50533@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-bacf85869d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(128, '14', 'forum', 96, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1497297796, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'A couple of things \r\n\r\nThe MH Practitioner Evaluation document and guidance notes for trainers which I created with Joanne in 2011 and was given to Johannes In Egypt 2013 was not based around evaluating a 12 question process.  It was developed around examining students according to their competence at META-Health Analysis methodology also which I developed.\r\n\r\nThis cant be reduced to a simple 12 question process. The evaluation document was designed to support us (Master Trainers) to evaluate a practitioners competence in obtaining key/critical information via assessing their questioning and decision making ability during a META-Health Analysis.  So it was really designed as a way of assessing META-Health Intelligence and practitioner methodology \r\n\r\nSecondly the marking Schema for the document has been altered so that the document doesn\'t work as it was originally intended and subsequently removes the scope for the Master Trainer being able to give and take marks away for good or poor performance in a specific areas of assessment. Its become restrictive for example I work with a marking Schema of 200 marks with a specific spread across certain criteria which allows greater emphasis to be placed in some areas rather than others which I feel is important to mention.\r\n\r\nSilly really this is what happens when you take the document away from the developer with no discussion of or understanding of how it has been put together or why things have been structured in the way that they have.  That document took a long time for Joanne and myself to develop and when used correctly can be a very useful tool when assessing the competence of a META-Health Practitioner', 'ffdc159c48e298ef081e1116c8a5a2a1', '', '', '82.0.13.27', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-96-ffdc159c48@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4be2a48df2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(129, '14', 'forum', 96, 'Kora', 1497300891, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Welcome to the discussion, Robert!\r\nAre you referring to attached document? What changes do you think would be necessary?\r\n\r\nIn this thread, we are discussing binding core standards which the Master Trainers can agree on.\r\nWhich of the above named points do you not agree with and what would your proposal be instead? (some were already changed in the MT meeting on wednesday 7 june)\r\n\r\nDe-confuse me: I understood the 12 questions were issued as an IMMA document?? \r\n(While I agree that they are rather keywords for a deep process, they do help students to not miss out. I created flowcharts as guidelines that I like to break the process down to)', 'd1f4c236e0566bd68a8fca6012218232', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-96-d1f4c236e0@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-96-ffdc159c48@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(130, '14', 'forum', 96, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1497309994, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Yes that\'s the document and here\'s the original evaluation document', '0f32a8b50afa9ecf48b19ef4378e481d', '', '', '82.0.13.27', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-96-0f32a8b50a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4be2a48df2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(131, '14', 'forum', 96, 'Kora', 1497386386, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I like your form as it gives more scope choosing between 0-5 to 20 points - we could adopt that!\r\n\r\nMy view is that we should avoid to give points arbitrarily (Master Trainer\'s assessment) as this is where it gets subjective. Our own assessment (how we perceive the student in the training/exercises) leads us to recommend for the student to be examined in the first place! \r\n\r\nFor IMMA use, as we are looking for __core standards__, MTs might alter certain points where they use different terms and priorities. Or __does everybody agree with Robert\'s wording__?\r\n\r\nAs we teach / introduce emotional release and basic transformatory tools, do we want to have them in the assessment form for level 2?\r\n\r\nAs chunk-up, __can we agree on the standards above named or the altered version worked out in the MT meeting__?', '17f4aee65087fb519ab3d3171c1b6423', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-96-17f4aee650@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-96-0f32a8b50a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(132, '4', 'forum', 0, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1497426797, 516, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Please watch Simon Sinek The Why on youtube to truly understand this new paradigm of marketing and how it relates to META-health so well\r\nI have attached ppt from the META masters training of my proposal.  Would love to hear your feedback.\r\nIf it does not resonate with you, then please say in your own words, how you would like it to read.\r\nThank you', 'dce89916d2056fec94b4bbe9849f6b5c', '', '', '90.174.4.106', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(133, '14', 'forum', 26, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1497427099, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I agree Lars, only one tissue per issue to start with...Sometimes dealing with only the one tissue the main one can heal others anyway, this is the power of nature.  \r\nWhere is the doc you say you have changed to italics please Kora', '059237ca859e0de1675323547c5bfbb4', '', '', '90.174.4.106', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-059237ca85@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-26-688ff84568@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(134, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1497475655, 3, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Penny, there is no doc file yet, but please look at the first post at the beginning of the thread, there you see the draft of the submission form we want to establish, including the additions in italics.\r\n\r\nPlease let us remember that this thread is not about Practitioner training or treatment outcome, but about IMMA\'s case database\'s common capture form, to be used by all levels.\r\nNobody has to name several tissues in one case study. But this cannot mean that nobody is permitted to name them either! \r\nOtherwise the form would be useless for exploring constellations and the development of deeper understanding by new observation.', '2c9a3b41a890d56c8103e20bff1a24b7', '', '', '212.17.162.63', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-2c9a3b41a8@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-059237ca85@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(135, '14', 'forum', 26, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1497480401, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I am a little confused about the whole thread and wondering how we can keep on point on each discussion? As it seems that there are tangents and it is difficult to follow\r\nAs to the first post, is this not what we do now anyway?', 'ec521add844abe0c1df637ec5589770e', '', '', '90.174.4.106', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-ec521add84@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-2c9a3b41a8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(136, '14', 'forum', 26, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1497538099, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Dear Penny\r\n\r\nI agree\r\n\r\nLars', '54357ad76d2de730ba6aeb7f6289b7ae', '', '', '90.184.61.30', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-26-54357ad76d@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-ec521add84@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(137, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1497557822, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Dear Penny & all,\r\nfor keeping on track we need to refer only to the topic of the thread, and when we have other objections, to open a new thread for them.\r\nThe forum\'s order of posts has in the meantime been altered to show the flow of discussion top to bottom, not the last answer on top. This will make it easier to follow in the future.\r\n\r\nThe submission form I started with is the one that was in use in the database and in MHU, and I wanted to make sure that we agree on it or change/add, which Lars did.\r\nIf there are no further objections, we can make this the valid IMMA document.', '4f42e04f4a408c84b7ace07cdbc3c383', '', '', '212.17.162.75', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-4f42e04f4a@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-26-ec521add84@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(138, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1497991910, 5, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What is the advantage of being a member?', '\'\'__\"What are the advantages of being in IMMA? I\'m asking as my subscriptions expired. Thanks \"__\'\'\r\nPosted on IMMA\'s FB site. What are YOUR answers?\r\n\r\nHere were mine:\r\nIMMA is our global non-profit organization which accredits all META-Health professionals. You need to be a member when you want to acquire or keep a title as META-Health Practitioner, Master Practitioner or -Trainer. \r\n*As a member you have access to our portal www.meta-health.net with the META-Wiki (expanded \"living\" directory), shared material, forums and contact to the global community and to the projects, committees and board of the organization. \r\n*The portal and website www.meta-health.info are being developed with an updated list of professionals on all levels for clients to find you and your offers. \r\n*We are now starting to give out regular notifications for all members as to what is happening, invitations to take part in the discussions, mutual support, be procreative... \r\n*IMMA sends out regular newsletters with fascinating articles from our members where you can expand recognition of your competence and name, etc\r\n*IMMA owns the trademark \"META-Health\" and the FB groups \"META-Health Community\" \"META-Health Trainers worldwide\" and \"META-Health Master Trainers\".', 'bfdc532e362b34e7fb57143d11181829', '', '', '212.17.162.22', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-bfdc532e36@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(139, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1498332107, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I now put the form together in a word document.', 'f601a63272c19d7792768a77e2e64222', '', '', '194.71.145.209', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-f601a63272@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(140, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1498332954, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Robert & all,\r\n\"In terms of a database for case studies, that is a different matter as we IMMA members require a single database for all case studies no matter what level someone is working from. \"\r\nThis was exactly the point intended in this topic. The common submission form has to be usable on all levels, which is why it can be filled out on the level the practitioner and the client are on. Fields can be filled out, they don\'t have to in every case. Multiple issues can be filled in, but don\'t have to.\r\nShould we add a field for \"recognized/assumed constellations\"?', 'e05050b302b11a19a6294200e8ee3104', '', '', '194.71.145.209', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-e05050b302@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-26-398ad84f4f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(141, '4', 'forum', 0, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1499788351, 33, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Benefits of being a member in IMMA in the future', 'This is a proposal from Penny:\r\nWin win situation \r\n	Networking with professionals \r\n	Finding out what your true niche is \r\n	Opportunity for client referrals, joining hands, as strength in community and numbers across the globe both nationally and internationally \r\n	High Global industry Standards \r\n	Code of Ethics \r\n	Credibility and trustworthiness \r\n	Sharing and mentoring worldwide\r\n	Learning from peers \r\n	Discounted rates on lectures and further workshops \r\n	First hand connection to key speakers including an assortment of videos \r\n	Sharing same mission and vision \r\n	Updates on policies and notification of changes \r\n	Expand and broaden knowledge \r\n	Enhance your network of health professionals \r\n	Inviting you to become a leader in your own field\r\n	Become a mentor \r\n	Chat rooms and discussion boards to share experiences and findings \r\n	Building up more empirical science research \r\n	Building confidence \r\n	Inspiring and motivating and feel supported by others who have walked this path', '1a10e1d4a7451ac308c3c668a1e3745c', '', '', '94.145.201.119', '', NULL, 'metafys@gmail.com-0-1a10e1d4a7@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(142, '4', 'forum', 10, 'Falguni', 1499857004, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Kora, I\'d be happy to help with photos/graphics for the web site if there is still a need.', '37db3efa4ee0f68bf2f69c36e52110e7', '', '', '219.77.191.234', '', NULL, 'Falguni-10-37db3efa4e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-bacf85869d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(143, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1500935191, 13, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Astrid\'s notes from the MT convention 4-8 oct', 'The minutes provided.', '32f3e0a2eedc0448c3b3a8a490620194', '', '', '212.17.162.35', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-32f3e0a2ee@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(144, '4', 'forum', 10, 'Kora', 1501874124, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Falguni, that\'s great!\r\nDo you have ideas what pages you have suitable pics for, opinions on how to make the site look nicer? In that case do you like to join the PR group?\r\nOr would you want to upload the pics here as attachment?\r\nOf course you\'ll be named as owner.', '8791d95cc9d65db2fdc021523d81aaaa', '', '', '212.17.162.58', '', NULL, 'Kora-10-8791d95cc9@www.meta-health.net', 'Falguni-10-37db3efa4e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(145, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1501875932, 12, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'letter templates', 'The templates used to welcome new members and in sending out certificates for META-P/MP, payments etc need to be reviewed (ideas for updated or added content anyone?) and formulated by an English native speaker. \r\nHelp is very much appreciated.\r\n\r\nAttached are the drafts that were used until now:', 'c05e10f3878310904c446fb27647fb1a', '', '', '212.17.162.58', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-c05e10f387@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(146, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1502313741, 160, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'META-Health E-zine?', 'I would love if we increase the attraction of IMMA newsletters by doing them in form of an e-zine with numbers on different themes. We can collect own articles as well as external ones which we comment, to create highly informative and comprehensive editions perhaps 3-4 per year.\r\nAll members can be invited to contribute, if we decide which themes the next numbers will have beforehand.\r\nAnybody like the idea?', 'a8ce4baae4908fa2cdbb592ecfed039a', '', '', '212.17.162.45', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(147, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1502488316, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'collection of shared material', 'Dear Master Trainers,\r\nplease complete our shared presentation/manual material that can be downloaded by Speakers, Trainers and new MTs. \r\nI uploaded what could be found plus own material as \"white-label\"-versions here: http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=5\r\nOur goal is to provide basic material of all training levels for our educators, and that it can be translated into different languages. When you share own material, please mark yourself as the author so you will be named by the presenter.\r\nThank you!', '253939b69e5d61484a5ff402233ef3c3', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-253939b69e@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(148, '6', 'forum', 146, 'ASuri', 1502528214, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Of course, something glossy is more attractive than a simple newsletter, which will probably increase people\'s attention. I don\'t know HOW much though, as maybe putting in all that extra effort in creating fancy newsletters might not create that MUCH more.', 'a9e80f82f129410e341b05947cc77377', '', '', '109.148.219.93', '', NULL, 'ASuri-146-a9e80f82f1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(149, '6', 'forum', 146, 'info@drkwesi.com', 1502530180, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Kora, many thanks for your suggestion. Could you please explain what \"e-zine with numbers on different themes\" means. Kwesi', '85662107b2c8afe28023428721033cef', '', '', '2.30.153.88', '', NULL, 'info@drkwesi.com-146-85662107b2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(150, '6', 'forum', 146, 'Kora', 1502565859, 7, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I mean, each NL (e-zine = electronic magazine) would have a special topic, like the heart, the kidneys, the feet, blood pressure, headaches, pregnancy etc\r\nThere would be various articles on the topic, reviews of current research, experiences with therapy methods, Expert theses, videos or webinar recordings.\r\nThis needs some time to collect and coordinate, and should be done by an open project group. We might collect ideas which topics we like to present first in a member poll.\r\nAt the side, there will as usual be announcement for IMMA courses and events. \r\nThorsten can take care of the technical side, so that we only need to provide the content.', '2f12b702eadee07ede8b6334415c11d5', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Kora-146-2f12b702ea@www.meta-health.net', 'info@drkwesi.com-146-85662107b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(151, '6', 'forum', 146, 'Kora', 1502567426, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Avnita, how would you imagine \"glossy\"? \r\nI think coordinated quality material from all sides of our community will both attract more readers and perhaps even shares, which helps us in profiling and making META-Health known for \"serious\" scientific integrative resources for health professionals and conscious laymen. \r\nSo it would also create more public benefit than newsletters that focus on event announcements.', '5c6146eedaaab49f291a5445ef84c77e', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Kora-146-5c6146eeda@www.meta-health.net', 'ASuri-146-a9e80f82f1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(152, '6', 'forum', 146, 'ASuri', 1502613107, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Yes, I can only imagine that it really does increase interest from both us and the public. I guess what I\'d be looking for are lots of pictures and THEN a little piece of information on every section - not heaps. This is too much reading, even though the content will be relevant and quite interesting. I feel people don\'t have the time these days to read. Here\'s an example of what I was thinking:\r\n\r\nhttps://twitter.com/hannahhudson1/status/758606919728857088', '4b4b0b6561fe3690fcb092ceee6616dc', '', '', '86.191.120.201', '', NULL, 'ASuri-146-4b4b0b6561@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-146-5c6146eeda@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(153, '6', 'forum', 146, 'Kora', 1502658743, 3, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Thanks for suggestions and the example!\r\nI personally had something between that and below example in mind, which comes as a newsletter, is text-based (articles with 5+ pages!) and also popular. \r\n\r\nFor our subject I think we might not need a majority of pictures when they don\'t provide content.\r\nIn health, people are looking for information which is structured and backed up with sources, especially when the readers are health professionals. But there can be different categories with which to experiment!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nExample content-based:\r\n\r\n\r\n~~#090:\"Influence/Persuasion * Sales/Marketing * Personal Development * 8/15/16\r\n\r\n(1) Coffee - When a Loss Teaches the World a Lesson\r\n\r\n(2)  7 Popular Persuasion (& Selling) Techniques that Don\'t Work\r\n\r\n(3)  Is Your Hot Idea for a Product, Income Producing Project or New Biz Going to Work?\r\n\r\n(4) Coupon Code Error for Influence: Boot Camp, corrected and good this week  until August 17.\r\n\r\n(1) Thanks for joining me for Coffee, I\'ll have Ginger Peach Tea, my favorite...\r\n\r\n     Michael Phelps. Class act. Best 2016 Olympic moment was seeing Joseph Schooling of Singapore beat Phelps this weekend. Why? Phelps was good enough to visit Schooling\'s school in 2008 when he was 13 years old. Schooling had his photo taken with Phelps (his hero) and then the kid knew what he  wanted...Schooling went on to compete and lose to his hero Phelps in 2012. Then this weekend the kid from Singapore... beat his hero.\r\n\r\nSee, Believe, Begin, Continue, Finish...\r\n\r\n(2)  7 Popular Persuasion (& Selling)  Tactics that Don\'t Work Any More\r\n\r\nYeah... You probably do some of these things. Most do. And it is a shame because influencers are turning off people everyday.\r\n\r\nThe reality is that these 7 \"common knowledge\" Persuasion Myths don\'t work.\r\n\r\nStop doing even ONE of these things will improve your persuasive positioning, sales, marketing and yes, your life.\r\n\r\nEnjoy it!\r\n\r\n[http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=CQp1h&m=Jo4vxgJKUM5kc9&b=xAZ0FWwIJB4wsqbXKe.q3A]\r\n\r\n(3)  Is Your Hot Idea for a Product, Income Producing Project or New Business Going to Work?\r\n\r\nIt\'s probably worth knowing! This assessment will show you whether you are about to blow your time and money on something big... or if you are tossing it to the wind.\r\n\r\nHere\'s how to know what to do, who to ask for help and how to know whether you should say YES or not!\r\n\r\n[http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=CQp1h&m=Jo4vxgJKUM5kc9&b=pqwUf8SrRWF893qOupyEog]\r\n\r\n(4) Influence: Boot Camp Oct. 12 - 15, 2016 - Las Vegas\r\n\r\nFINALLY - we have your Room Block for hotel rooms at Boot Camp!\r\n\r\nThat means today you can use Coupon Code: OLYMPICS\r\n\r\nand save $500 off of the registration price! Enter the code when you are checking out.\r\n\r\nIf you register and want to use one payment, the code will be calculated immediately upon check out.\r\n\r\nBecause we accept Pay Pal, those using installments will have the $500 taken off of your final installments and we\'ll send you your receipt immediately by email itemizing that reduction!\r\n\r\nThis offer expires THIS WEEK, 11:59 PM CDT, August 17.\r\n\r\nIt is good on both the VIP package which includes an intimate dinner and the awesome show LOVE at The Mirage Hotel...and it is good on the Deluxe Package as well.\r\nIt\'s time to register and get all of your information on your hotel room options.\r\n\r\nAll the info is here:\r\n[ http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=CQp1h&m=Jo4vxgJKUM5kc9&b=e2y1Pu7nFI99YJJp_5RE3A ]\r\n\r\nStay Focused,\r\n\r\nKevin Hogan\r\n3432 Denmark Ave. #108, EAGAN, MN 55122, USA\r\n\r\n\r\n~~', 'fc0de878ae5575a795403193cecfc097', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Kora-146-fc0de878ae@www.meta-health.net', 'ASuri-146-4b4b0b6561@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(154, '6', 'forum', 146, 'ASuri', 1502691909, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Your example looks good! Anything that is structured well, so that people can navigate to what they\'re interested in is great.', 'f0347a90c5ab8e5c08e396e123cc0d52', '', '', '86.191.120.201', '', NULL, 'ASuri-146-f0347a90c5@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-146-fc0de878ae@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(155, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1502832831, 20, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Master Trainer Meeting 2017-08-17', 'Dear all!\r\n\r\nWe like to invite you to the next Master Trainer Meeting on thursday 2017-08-17 at 08:00 UK time. Please check your local time here:\r\n\r\nCalifornia (USA)                                   00:00\r\nCosta Rica                                           01:00\r\nIndiana (USA)                                      03:00\r\nUK                                                      08:00\r\nGermany, Denmark, Norway, Egypt       09:00\r\nFinland, Estonia                                    10:00\r\nIndia                                                    12:30\r\nJapan                                                   16:00\r\nNew Zealand                                         19:00\r\n\r\nOur meeting room is as usual:\r\n\r\n[https://zoom.us/j/955240362|https://zoom.us/j/955240362]\r\n\r\nThe agenda:\r\n\r\n1.) Follow up of the last meeting:\r\n\r\na.) Acknowledge standards for Level 2 & 3\r\n[https://www.meta-health.info/meta-health/professional-standards/|https://www.meta-health.info/meta-health/professional-standards/]\r\n\r\nb.) Ethics and mediation processes\r\n\r\nc.) Workgroup PR (see also 5.)\r\n\r\n2.) Communication: what works so you don\'t miss out on information, what works so you feel heard? What to do with colleagues who don\'t respond?\r\n\r\n3.) Survey: what kind of organization do we need?\r\n\r\n4.) Branding: META-Health vs. META-Medicine\r\n\r\n5.) Promoting META-Health\r\n\r\na.) Project E-zine:\r\n[http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=146&topics_offset=0|http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=146&topics_offset=0]\r\n\r\nb.) India Conference videos on Vimeo\r\n\r\n6.) Standards and requirements of Trainers & Master Trainers (valid from October 2017)\r\n[http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=114&topics_offset=5&fref=gc|http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=114&topics_offset=5&fref=gc]\r\n\r\n7.) Candidates for the Board of Directors from 2018\r\n\r\n\r\nBest wishes on behalf of the orga team\r\nThorsten', 'd92f6dda4dad0aa99bb15da43b8d9ac5', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-d92f6dda4d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(156, '14', 'forum', 114, 'Kora', 1503007642, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Following ===additions=== were made on the MT meeting 17. august: (the other points apply as are)\r\n\r\n!!Speaker\r\nWe want META-Health to be spread by many. Some Speaker\'s/communication training how to convey META-Health to different publics (dos & don\'ts) should be included in the Level 2&3 trainings.\r\n \r\n!!!Permissions\r\nAccess to templates for introductory talks ~~#00F:(these need to be shared & uploaded, please submit material for Speakers\' use here or send to kora@meta-health.net)~~\r\n\r\n!!Trainer\r\n!!!Prerequisites & skills\r\n*At least 1 year experience with META-Health clients, documented by 50 case studies reviewed & uploaded in IMMA\'s database ~~#00F:(review of an accredited Master Trainer shall be paid for by the candidate)~~\r\n*Master Trainer or mentor supports and trains candidate. ~~#00F:(When the candidate wants to choose a new mentor, all responsibilities/liabilities with earlier Master Trainers must be settled.)~~\r\n*Demonstrates professional, passionate and engaging presentation skills live or online with at least 1 Master Trainer present ~~#00F:(who can confirm that a recording is authentic)~~.\r\n*Application to Certification Committee based on 2 Master Trainer recommendations or live test by the Committee (for lateral entrants).\r\n\r\n!!Master Trainer\r\n!!!Prerequisites & Skills\r\n*At least 2 years experience with META-Health clients, documented by 100 case studies reviewed & uploaded in IMMA\'s database ~~#00F:(review of an accredited Master Trainer shall be paid for by the candidate)~~\r\n*Experienced in teaching Level 1 Foundation Trainings (must have done at least 5 Foundation Trainings).\r\n*Application to Certification Committee based on 3 Master Trainer recommendations or live test by the Committee/Board of Directors (for lateral entrants)\r\n\r\n---\r\nSpecific rules of procedure yet to be discussed and decided by the BoD.\r\n\r\nA Level 3/Master Practitioner __curriculum/manual has yet to be created__, this is a task for the workgroup \"Standards\" in cooperation with the MTs who already teach Level 3.\r\n\r\n__IMMA can withdraw the titles__ \"Trainer\" and \"Master Trainer\" in case the person in question \r\n*is not committing to IMMA (by communicating, using IMMA & META-Health logos & information, engaging in IMMA meetings, forums or events, paying membership fees etc)\r\n*is not giving trainings\r\n*is not updating their knowledge (e g by ongoing education, participation in discussion among META-Health Professionals, Researchers and Developers)\r\nTo upgrade again, the Trainer/Master Trainer in question is in communication with the BoD and shows they fulfill the requisites.', '689ae35ccea49f5259c8adac70ebb6b1', '', '', '212.17.162.65', '', NULL, 'Kora-114-689ae35cce@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-23c289b922@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(157, '14', 'forum', 26, 'Kora', 1503606908, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The extended case study submission form in English language is now downloadable from our ((http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=10|documents)) in the file gallery!\r\n\r\nIt should be translated into all other languages, the versions are also to be uploaded to our documents.\r\n\r\nPlease Master Trainers, show your trainees how to use it!', 'e6e86f7fb766d21e873a5d8e1c91d1b0', '', '', '212.17.162.9', '', NULL, 'Kora-26-e6e86f7fb7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-0eaded1d35@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(158, '14', 'forum', 155, 'Thorsten', 1503608699, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The recording of the meeting:\r\n\r\n{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/230722725\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}', 'c9ad5e7da80ad56cce7a1adcd4eaafe4', '', '', '212.17.162.9', '', '', 'Thorsten-155-e20f9a8ea0@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-d92f6dda4d@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(159, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1503961629, 15, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'MT email list', 'Hi dear colleagues!\r\n\r\nIf you want to exchange private emails with other Master Trainers, you can share your email address here in this thread to create a public list inside this group.\r\n\r\nIf an email should be sent to all MTs, all members or members of a group (like a committee), please contact office@meta-health.net for distribution.\r\n\r\nMy address is kora@metahealth4u.com\r\n\r\nCheers, Kora', '1ef1f763b7bf2bbda89fc075779adf65', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-1ef1f763b7@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(160, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1504096986, 59, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Decision on reviewed standards for all levels of presenters', 'Dear colleagues of the BoD,\r\nI want you all to read the reviewed standards we went through on MT meeting 17 of august which I put into attached document.\r\nDo we need further discussion on the forum or in a Board meeting, or do all agree on the wording so that the standards can be published?', '324f0b7717c32e09678b6ec5f41912b9', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(161, '2', 'forum', 160, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1504102439, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I like it.\r\n\r\nOne thing missing in all of the \"	Profile & Expectations\"\r\n\r\nIs the member must be willing to share his or her own materials with IMMA and other trainers/speakers\r\n\r\nLars', '09e550d8d7270d9d22aed5067b3830db', '', '', '185.126.109.186', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-160-09e550d8d7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(162, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Kora', 1504103702, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Personally I\'m still doubting that we do IMMA a favor in asking so many cases. True that it shows one has dedicated time to META-Health and it\'s application, but one can do this in other ways as well, like the in-depth review of case studies, scientific studies and therapy. As we previously decided to have equal branches in practice and education (and research in a future vision), we shouldn\'t limit the permission to educate to experienced practitioners, but also researchers and experts should get their chance just like in the academic world. Especially when we think educating doctors.\r\nHow could that be integrated in our __core requirements__?', 'c8836a8b6de161661760ff093b3c2fdf', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-160-c8836a8b6d@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(163, '2', 'forum', 160, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1504103922, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'the board has always been able to give special permisions and lower the barr for some new trainers and they can still do that in the future', '3d503b65f10c0826d0635aa7f005ec73', '', '', '185.126.109.186', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-160-3d503b65f1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-160-c8836a8b6d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(164, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Kora', 1504104105, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Don\'t know if we can expect everybody to share own material, especially when one considers it unique. But we would encourage to share it tagged with own name as author. Under \"permissions\" we named the creation of new material.', '21571bba18b9c9f52e53de41b1e2ab63', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-160-21571bba18@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-160-09e550d8d7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(165, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Kora', 1504106248, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'This is an equality and transparency issue. __Core standards__ should be valid for all, while __recommendations__ are a sure way to pass. \r\nSpecial permissions tend to raise uncertainty and the feeling of potential injustice inside the organization.', '1458a98d2d4f26a2040a58f731725dc3', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-160-1458a98d2d@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-160-3d503b65f1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(166, '2', 'forum', 160, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1504117668, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hello BoD\r\n\r\nApologies for missing this meeting I didn\'t see the email until now. \r\n\r\nIm currently not in agreement with the proposed standards for MH Speakers Trainers and Master Trainers as there seems to be no standardisation of methodology for the evaluation of competency of the individuals presentation ability\r\n\r\nSurely every level of differentiation in qualification and IMMA representation should be correspondingly evaluated and certified as is the case for nearly every other professional\r\nfield of health and personal development\r\n\r\nI was recently at a AAMET CPD meeting as Im\r\nA certified Master Trainer in EFT also and there\r\nappears to be striking difference in their approach\r\nto standards and competency\r\n\r\nMETA-Health Practitioners/Master Practitioners are required to meet specific criteria in terms of case studies exam live evaluation etc...\r\n\r\nWhat I\'m not sure and feel uncomfortable about is the lack of distinction between a MH Practitioner and a MH Speaker\r\n\r\nJust going on a speaking course shouldn\'t qualify someone to speak on behalf of the IMMA\r\n\r\nI feel that speaking on META-Health should be reserved for Master Practitioners only as they have a more detailed understanding and therefore would be better able to handle challenges and complex questions that a practitioner may not\r\n\r\nI also think that becoming a MH speaker should be differentiated from the practitioner level\r\n\r\nWith a different set of criteria that need to assessed by their master trainers\r\n\r\nI disagree with your last comment Lars that the Board or Master Trainers should be able to give special permission or lower the bar to allow people through.\r\n\r\nAlthough I\'m sure this has been the case in the past, I feel this has created all sorts of problems in inconsistent standards internationally \r\n\r\nI also agree with your last comment Kora regarding equality, that people should get through on merit only, through clear standards and commonality in evaluation criteria and methodology, this is the only way to achieve an improvement in clarity about requirements standards and a consistent quality of output regarding IMMA representatives what ever the level\r\n\r\nPeople being granted special permissions not only, raises confusion and potential injustice amongst internal members it discredits the hard work of many and casts a dim light on IMMA\'s professionalism from the outside\r\n\r\nIt all depends on what our Vision of the IMMA for the future is I guess\r\n\r\nI\'m certainly in the camp of improving standards, clearer criteria, improving methods of evaluation higher quality students and trainers is the way to ensure that they create a more positive impact on their local and national communities\r\n\r\nThe only way to achieve that I feel is by raising the bar, by increasing our integrity, equality transparency evaluation criteria and standards towards greater professionalism\r\n\r\nLove to all\r\n\r\nRobert', 'e325317da021b08e7d89ff469ff1f0b7', '', '', '195.77.154.202', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-160-e325317da0@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(167, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Kora', 1504131044, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Rob,\r\nwould we all agree that our vision for IMMA is to grow and spread more than in the past?\r\n\r\nThat means we need to be many who speak in the public.\r\n\r\nEnthusiasts, to spur curiosity. When that is done, people will search for the courses and all the competence.\r\nThat\'s why I don\'t want to raise the bar for the Speaker level. For me, every practitioner (or even a client with their own example) could be Speakers. It\'s not a title but something one does. It\'s on behalf of META-Health and to raise interest, and for that one certainly doesn\'t need to be a Master Practitioner. As not all practitioners wish to be Speakers, we want to make it attractive to sufficient numbers so the word gets out in the first place, combined with the info where to learn more.', '1dad300ef3b6296d69e44bdc55dd73ab', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-160-1dad300ef3@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-160-e325317da0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(168, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Thorsten', 1504134249, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Some aspects for the discussion from my point of view as COO:\r\n\r\n!!What\'s the base for our standards?\r\n\r\nFrom my point of view META-Health is a concept of understanding human health. Originally it\'s a fork of Dr. Hamer\'s New Medicine. From Dr. Hamer\'s part most of the client cases are not accessable for the public. IMMA itself has a database of only 720 client cases collected within 13 years (saved from the attacked server). \r\n\r\nOn a scientific level: How can we standardize a holistic health concept on this base? Do we have enough understandable case studies of good quality for the proof of the pudding - giving us the plausibility to develop standards? \r\n\r\n!!What about spreading the new healing paradigm?\r\n\r\nRegarding a membership of only 350 persons IMMA seems to be still in the embryonic state although already in her 14th year. Nearly all our MTs seem to be fully employed with their own businesses, now and then \"forgetting\" to name META-Health at all. Shall META-Health continue to be a niche of controversial alternative medicine? Or do we want it to grow to become a relevant part of health care - integrating similar concepts of body mind relations? Which effect will the proposed standards for META-S, META-T and META-MT have?', '0e41a3384e242f183999d1f269c13d28', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-160-0e41a3384e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(169, '2', 'forum', 160, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1504191792, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Kora and Thorsten\r\n\r\nWhile I agree with you both that I would like more people to engage with META-Health globally as that certainly benefits humanity\r\n\r\nI don\'t agree with the concept that it\'s just a case of greater numbers of people speaking with enthusiasm\r\n\r\nWhen we look at the growth of any new field or modality there are usually only a few people with a coherent message and high degree of competency that are able to demonstrate practically the theories that are being extolled\r\n\r\nIn the past it was Johannes idea that we just needed to increase the numbers of people talking to get the word out so to speak and that was his idea of a growth strategy but certainly not mine\r\n\r\nThe result is clear and it\'s where we find ourselves today with the statistics that you demonstrate Thorsten there seems to be a problem with engagement more systemically \r\n\r\nWith no coherent communication strategy or quality standards in place about who should or can speak i feel this has had an opposing affect in fact possibly even stifled the growth of META-Health internationally\r\n\r\nSo it\'s complex situation we all find ourselves in no doubt\r\n\r\nMy question is really, is it simply just a case of increasing the numbers of people talking about the approach key to a successful growth strategy?\r\n\r\nThe answer is evident\r\n\r\nThere is a saying in England too many chiefs and not enough Indians\r\n\r\nSpeakers are seen by the general public in a similar way to authors I.e. as experts\r\n\r\nWhen someone starts to speak about a subject in public people assume (rightly or wrongly) that this makes them an expert in their chosen field\r\n\r\nThe big problem with this is that then people make assumptions about the whole field and the other trainers representatives etc... based on that persons communication they can\'t help it it\'s how western culture currently operates\r\n\r\nthis is something I feel very uncomfortable about, that somebody speaking elsewhere in the world is actually representing me when I have had no input into their development or know how their being evaluated or to what standards etc...\r\n\r\nThorsten, you raise valuable questions about how can we standardise or make scientific this holistic health concept with such a small case study basis\r\n\r\nAlso how do we proceed in terms of growth and becoming an integrated part of health care rather than alternative niche\r\n\r\nThe question about science is an interesting one because there actually two different sciences were working with which don\'t normally sit together\r\n\r\nOne sits in the materialistic camp and has a biological basis and is the basis for Dr Hamer\'s observations as we know - this is seen to be objective \r\n\r\nThe power lays in the application of this understanding through META-Health Analysis\r\n\r\nwhich is about how we enquire into the aspects of the unconscious which relate, create and maintain dis-ease processing or we could say how we help reveal where someone is stuck in their own evolutionary processing - this can be seen as subjective enquiry\r\n\r\nfrom conducting talks for over 10 years it is clear to me that differences in sign up rates for foundation weekends come down to being able to conduct effective demonstrations where we can show that the model we\'re trying to explain is accurate by someone reaction to an enquiry\r\n\r\nSo the question of how we grow META-Health globally is simple it\'s making sure that speakers can demonstrate effectively most of the time\r\n\r\nThe question of how we get taken seriously by mainstream alternative medicine or health care is a bigger and more complex one as the philosophical and scientific basis behind this field is systems and cybernetics and this is a relatively new set of constructs requiring a greater engagement with complexity,\r\n\r\nWhich is another reason META-Health isn\'t growing as quickly as things such as EFT etc...\r\n\r\nBecause it\'s a very complex system by comparison\r\n\r\nYou can\'t simplify complex systems that\'s been the whole problem with the reductionist Approach to medicine and is why clinical medicine is in a mess the world over, because they tried to treat the organism as a machine and it simply doesn\'t work or when it appears to there are always unintended consequences because a lack of understanding of the complex cause effect relationships involved\r\n\r\nLook forward to discussing all this in more depth\r\n\r\nLove to all', '745b2bb346bdff16fe7cda8bce06c084', '', '', '213.205.252.219', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-160-745b2bb346@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(170, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Thorsten', 1504262070, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', '!!Who will do the job?\r\n\r\nLet us estimate the work load of a certification process for META-Ts and META-MTs as sketched in the proposal above. Per year at least 1 META-MT and 2 META-Ts have to be certified - just to keep IMMA\'s status stagnating as is.\r\n\r\nFor each META-MT 100 client cases need to be reviewed, for each META-T 50 client cases. This means a minimum of 200 client cases to be reviewed per year. Estimated time for a quality review at least 15 minutes per case, this means at least 50 working hours for one or more reviewers.\r\n\r\n!!!Scenario 1: Certification Committee\r\n\r\nThe natural solution for a Non Profit Organization: Competent volunteers - authorized by the BoD - do the job for free or a formal minimal compensation. In practice the Certification Committee has already several applications for META-MPEs pending since months - waiting for the Committee members to give feedback. How to make this a smoothly working solution?\r\n\r\n!!!Scenario 2: Outsourcing of the review\r\n\r\nThere might be some MTs willing to do the job when reasonably paid. Let\'s say 50 USD per hour. So IMMA would spend 2 500 USD to get 200 client cases reviewed for 1 META-MT candidate and 2 META-T candidates per year. 2 500 USD is more than 10% of IMMA\'s revenues.\r\n\r\nIMMA\'s Articles of Incorporation say that the corporation is not organized for the private gain of any person. As the circle of potential reviewers is limited to nowadays ca. 30 META-MTs the conflict with IMMA\'s non profit status is obvious.\r\n\r\nAny ideas for a workaround which would be both legal and transparent?\r\n\r\n!!!Scenario 3: Review by META-Health researchers\r\n\r\nIn general a database with client cases is a fascinating resource to do research. And research includes naturally also the review of client cases.  So what could be the drivers for a META-Health researcher?\r\n\r\na.) personal enthusiasm \r\nb.) official status as META-R (a new line?)\r\nc.) economic advantage (e.g. producing META-Health media for the public)\r\n\r\na.) and b.) are typical non material drivers well known from open source communities. Regarding c.) IMMA would be able to support the work economically within the framework of public benefit. \r\n\r\nRegarding a new META-Health research line we\'re in fact starting from zero (although research is a specific purpose of IMMA since 2004). Any ideas regarding the development of META-Health research?\r\n\r\n__What\'s your opinion? Who will do the job of reviewing at least 200 client cases per year on META-MT / META-T level as proposed in the new standards?__', '614fd70540dacfa99487df78368014fc', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-160-614fd70540@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(171, '2', 'forum', 160, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1504269852, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', '__A set of Criteria for MH Speakers__\r\n\r\nI\'ll get to the bigger question you posed about who will take responsibility for Thorsten case studies etc.. in a moment.\r\n\r\nSome other things came up for me through this discourse which I think are important to mention.\r\n\r\nThe main point being it\'s about a Speakers credibility to a newcomer \r\n\r\nA theoretical understanding of a subject does not denote the person speaking about the subject to be an expert or have the \'embodiment\' to be credible to an onlooker\r\n\r\nThis has certainly been demonstrated to me and many of or students and colleagues have commented\r\n\r\nIn my opinion a speaker should be working with META-Health within a practice over at least 18-24 months and have embodiment which means that they have resolved some (2-3) health issues through use or application of META-Health and related methods.\r\n\r\nTheir healing experiences and client healing experiences would be useful information for both presentation to the general public and case study\'s (with permission) of course\r\n\r\nThese additional criteria I feel makes the potential speaker credible to an any onlooker and gives them confidence about as well as the pragmatic competence to discuss their experience from META perspectives\r\n\r\nOf the three part questions you posed Thorsten\r\n\r\n__Who will you do the Job?__\r\n\r\nIn my opinion there are more than one type of job role here and that\'s part of the problem when we don\'t have clearly defined roles with the associated duties and responsibilities\r\n\r\nSo in terms of case studies it should be the responsibility of the Master trainers to review and mark the case studies of their students no matter what level they are at.\r\n\r\nOnce master trainers are satisfied that their students case studies meet the IMMA standards for the level being presented the student should be responsible for the entry on to the IMMA database\r\n\r\nthis can be part of their criteria for qualifying as this supports their commitment to the IMMA\r\nAlso this reduces administrative burden while keeping a line of accountability ( although we would need to create a data entry policy)\r\n\r\nIn this way the master trainers represent and uphold IMMA standards and are responsible for ensuring the competency and qualification of all the levels of people who enrolled with them\r\n\r\nThis in my opinion is not the job for the certification committee or board as their role should be less tactical or operational more steering the IMMA Ship towards a brighter future by devising more intelligent strategies, systems, solutions and policies and inspiring the community\r\n\r\nI guess the MT, MPExpert Level would be the only exceptions where the Standards committee would need oversight and the power to police where necessary\r\n\r\nFrom my perspective an MPE should demonstrate methodological excellence in META-Health Analysis and Therapy and this should be demonstrated to the board practically\r\n\r\nAn MPE should not be specialised in specific area of health concern such as anxiety as this a significant movement back towards the organisation of clinical medicine with all the failings of reductionist approaches\r\n\r\nSurely then there should be a MPE Trainer Level\r\nI feel the current level being designated as expert is incongruent \r\n\r\n__The possibility of outsourcing evaluation __\r\n\r\nThis idea has potential although as you state it brings a question over IMMA Non-Profit Status\r\n\r\nI wonder if the employment of a consultant on an external contract could work?\r\n\r\nThe other possibility (my favoured one) is that we make sure that trainers review and mark their own students work.\r\n\r\nThis also creates a feedback loop for the trainer to become clear about their students understanding and where there may be educational/ competency/ awareness gaps that need to be bridged.\r\n\r\nThis route also ensures that the Master trainer stays close to the students learning experience and helps with the ongoing improvement of course materials and training methods which can be shared back with the certification committee to create a training improvement feedback loop\r\n\r\n__Review by META-Health Researchers?__\r\n\r\nThis proposal is interesting but the researcher level isn\'t appropriate for someone working in health care as researcher the title could be purely \r\nAcademic in their interest\r\n\r\nsomeone would also need to be an active consultant working with clients to have the pragmatic understanding of the fit between theory and its application in practice\r\n\r\nSo consultant researcher yes\r\n\r\nBut then we\'re talking about another level of META-Health professional\r\n\r\nMETA-Health consultant who would have to be a master trainer and does research and develops the field of META-Health ummm\r\n\r\nIf you meant who will review the case studies for database entry this should be part of a marking schema policy for master trainers so they can advise their qualifying students as above\r\n\r\nMaster trainers have responsibility for the data entered by their students\r\n\r\nSo we would need to educate all master trainers so they can educate their student practitioners etc...\r\n\r\nAll the best', '136a9961dbe863ed65c1493dcc939461', '', '', '213.205.198.183', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-160-136a9961db@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(172, '2', 'forum', 160, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1504270904, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The student pays for the training and certification as in all other trainings around the world.\r\n\r\nI could also imagine a peerreview system where students review each other before delivered to the trainer.', 'b0f805f7d92f73d531d7fedf6e55f7f3', '', '', '80.62.117.205', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-160-b0f805f7d9@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-160-614fd70540@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(173, '2', 'forum', 160, 'Kora', 1504276888, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', '~~#00F:I comment to the quotes:~~\r\n\"In my opinion a speaker should be working with META-Health within a practice over at least 18-24 months and have embodiment which means that they have resolved some (2-3) health issues through use or application of META-Health and related methods.\"\r\n~~#00F:To speak authentically, one doesn\'t need to have the theory at all, but to have a __story by experience__. Mostly, an own story. \r\nI still think we do not need \"Speaker\" as a title for certification, but should encourage people to DO (and that was not how it was like under Johannes\' presidency). \r\nWhat is making people uncomfortable in speaking about META-Health (or GNM for that matter) is that another one crushes their confidence by claiming they be not \"correct\". But one who tells their own healing story ARE inspiring others and making them curious, and that\'s what we want! I rather prefer practitioners finding a mentor they trust, for support and critique. Let them develop!\r\nThe __demos__ for which one must be competent, aren\'t done usually in an introductory storytelling, but in a __Foundation Course__.~~\r\n\r\n\"In this way the master trainers represent and uphold IMMA standards and are responsible for ensuring the competency and qualification of all the levels of people who enrolled with them\r\nThis in my opinion is not the job for the certification committee or board as their role should be less tactical or operational more steering the IMMA Ship towards a brighter future by devising more intelligent strategies, systems, solutions and policies and inspiring the community \"\r\n~~#00F:You are referring to MTs reviewing their students\' studies, which has been that way and wasn\'t altered now. But as the thread is about Trainers, they don\'t necessarily come from a certain course or MT. This is what Thorsten is referring to - who does the work?~~\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Thing here is, when we want scientific value we need peer review, not only one MT checking the congruence with the concept. There should be __signatures__ from who read and approved or commented a case. I like the idea of a researcher branch in M-H, and a Researcher can be a __Practitioner who is able to work with the wiki__ and to ask clarifying questions to cases, or an academic who evaluates them - they should work in groups. In the submission form we should have the item \"history\" to be filled out with what lead to the process documented. That way, comparison gets possible. The wiki gives us the opportunity to openly discuss cases. IMMA has never before invited research based on our collected material, but this is what we should aim for now, IMO~~\r\n\r\n\"So we would need to educate all master trainers so they can educate their student practitioners etc..\"\r\n~~#00F:Welcome to try to educate the MTs... many don\'t even take the time to read, much less to answer, or appear to meetings, from my experience. Territorial thing? \r\nWhat we need to accomplish IMHO is that M-H students who become IMMA members (which should be all students) are included in the community and encouraged to interact there, it\'s therefore we have forums to meet global competence and support in analysis and therapy, besides the more personal bond with their MT or faculty.~~\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Please let\'s discuss MPE further in another thread...\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\nKora~~', '52d2412c1eb4357afea87442deb41679', '', '', '83.52.85.229', '', NULL, 'Kora-160-52d2412c1e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-324f0b7717@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(174, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1504889505, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Meetings for mutual support', 'I\'d like us to start with super-/intervision and think tank meetings online, organized by IMMA. We have offered \"META-Health Pro-Café\" in German for a year now and professionals appreciate it. I have also been asked before if not ongoing online supervision could be offered for certified practitioners. This way we keep them updated and in contact, and sessions could count into \"ongoing education\".\r\n\r\nMeetings could be held by varying Trainers or Master Trainers at varying times to include all time areas.\r\nWould be a great public benefit that IMMA gives.\r\n\r\nYour opinion?', 'd8395b10137d621843b4cadda8c19461', '', '', '88.10.50.175', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-d8395b1013@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(175, '2', 'forum', 174, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com', 1504893952, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Sounds like a good idea Kora, we already provide a live physical CPD type workshop\r\n\r\nSupervision/Mentoring should really be a mandatory part of maintaining certification requirements particularly in furtheri g skills and professionalism\r\n\r\nThe way AAMET run the EFT standards by is saying Practitioners need to do a minimum requirement so many hours and a percentage of that has to be EFT specific\r\n\r\nThey also allow for other Subject CPD to be submitted if it can be demonstrated to be contributing to an EFT Practitioner professional development', '847d17e43e4e647eabb5852172f5c6a2', '', '', '213.205.252.29', '', NULL, 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-174-847d17e43e@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-d8395b1013@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(176, '2', 'forum', 174, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1504895018, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'is it going to be free or paid?', '6f5a7ccfc0bb3315efc52cb64febbcb2', '', '', '94.127.52.251', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-174-6f5a7ccfc0@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-174-847d17e43e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(177, '2', 'forum', 174, 'Kora', 1504896249, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The way we already do it, it\'s free for participants, as it\'s not formal education but spurring their engagement and following up, but we could consider having a little budget in IMMA for the organization of these meetings, so more Professionals inside IMMA would be willing to do it and evaluate it.', '064438a7692f892f091f75aff4635326', '', '', '88.10.50.175', '', NULL, 'Kora-174-064438a769@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-174-6f5a7ccfc0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(178, '2', 'forum', 174, 'Kora', 1504896423, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I agree Rob, and in Neckarsulm we talked about ongoing education as well. \r\nWe also want to keep contact to the members so they feel they get benefits out of being in IMMA.', 'f74d230c67162b5cff4fe6006efa3d5e', '', '', '88.10.50.175', '', '', 'Kora-174-f74d230c67@www.meta-health.net', 'robert@metahealthacademy.com-174-847d17e43e@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(179, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1504966401, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Profile photos on M-H website', 'I\'d like us to  show directors & staff with photo on [https://www.meta-health.info/imma/organization/|www.meta-health.info]\r\nIf you don\'t have objections, please send a 150x150px head shot of you to thorsten@meta-health.net or add here below.', '2876d0b19ab5bae130da6d50891f3fc6', '', '', '88.10.50.175', '', '', 'Kora-0-bba955fea0@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(180, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Catherine Mckean', 1505236521, 60, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Logos and templates', 'Hi \r\n\r\nAre there standard templates of the IMMA logo and other diagrams available to use for website design\r\n\r\nRegards Catherine', 'c3c81fdca7ddb993eeb45322092f8776', '', '', '2.25.183.195', '', NULL, 'Catherine Mckean-0-c3c81fdca7@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(181, '6', 'forum', 180, 'Thorsten', 1505500367, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Hi Catherine, in the file galleries (tab above) you find IMMA & META-Health logos under media files>>IMMA\r\n[https://www.meta-health.net/tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=8]', 'a0726711564e5301ed763e15c9529f5b', '', '', '90.174.4.81', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-180-a072671156@www.meta-health.net', 'Catherine Mckean-0-c3c81fdca7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(182, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1506266658, 41, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Gender, depression, and oxytocin', '[https://m.medicalxpress.com/news/2015-12-hormone-oxytocin-anxiety-drug-effects.html|This article] explores the role the social hormone has on stressed or relaxed males and females. We can aim to incorporate the findings and match them to the META-Health understanding of the \"territorial relays\" (see below graphics) of the cerebral (insular) cortex and the influence of the \"hormonal scale\".\r\nOxytocin is produced in the pituitary/((Endocrine - Pituitary Gland - Posterior Lobe|neurohypophysis)).\r\n\r\n{img fileId=\"2083\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n{img fileId=\"2082\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n{img fileId=\"2080\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n{img fileId=\"2081\" thumb=\"box\"}', '0c031310a0f38b8e973078584d1f5013', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-0c031310a0@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(183, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1506368849, 103, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'New graphics to explain the phases', ' I drafted some new graphics to illustrate the roles of sympathetic and parasympathetic nerves:\r\n1. \"Old Brain\" pattern - sympathetic: \r\n{img fileId=\"363\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n\r\nThis means processes of high stress that is acted out and can lead to burn-out and exhaustion over time, but as no energy is stored, a sympathetic \"Healing Peak\" may not appear.\r\nThese cases need to calm down and find rhythm.\r\n\r\n2. \"Old Brain\" pattern with prolonged freeze: \r\n{img fileId=\"364\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n\r\nThis means a mixed reaction of stress that is mainly responded to internally, perhaps of social reasons. This could be behind many lobular breast cancers: on the outside the person seems ok and in charge, but the worries make the tissue proliferate.\r\nThese cases need to express their feelings and not swallow them, motion and sports can help.\r\n\r\n3. \"New Brain\" pattern - parasympathetic with inhibition: \r\n{img fileId=\"365\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n\r\nHere we see a prolonged external inhibition like in motor or sensory paralysis in stress phase (the typical \"minus-reaction\") which is resolved by a \"hope-trigger\" reactivating the sympathetic mode (like the mouse that was caught and then let go by the cat so it can flee). The real regeneration however happens first when it is feeling safe again, then the parasympathetic relax reaction comes.\r\nThese cases obviously need hope and support, by finding and transforming the UDIN, meeting & facing their own powers.\r\n\r\nI\'d like your feedback on these: does it make sense like that to you?', '19a57899db452d7f8e29d54c4c14c522', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', '', 'Kora-0-0370d3a5ef@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(184, '2', 'forum', 179, 'Kora', 1506627838, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'See here: [https://www.meta-health.info/imma/organization/]', 'bbabbcae628032076ee956bbc5f45403', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-179-bbabbcae62@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-bba955fea0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(185, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1506628942, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Translation offer & credit system', 'Dr Rehab Ghouniem is willing to translate material to Arabic language and would like to discuss options with the Board.\r\n\r\nBefore that, we should determine in general what we want to have translated and to which conditions. (I don\'t know what material is in use at this time in any foreign language at this point)\r\nIn the past, Trainer candidates were asked to do such things for IMMA without being paid, and still, I expect members to volunteer some engagement for the community. But of course this depends on the volume of the job for to function and to feel fair.\r\n\r\nKwesi proposed we introduce a credit system to reward the work done in IMMA - I think this is a good idea.\r\n\r\nYour opinions please!', '7ae0e8701cc3036c914d93410baff03a', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-7ae0e8701c@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(186, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1506778101, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'New findings about microbiome', '[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170926105425.htm|Science Daily] current article on how our microbiome is orchestrated via neuropeptides produced in the nervous system.\r\nSee [http://|Holobiont]', 'f1ca696503df4523b7b8af662f6480fc', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-f1ca696503@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(187, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1506845363, 9, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Board meeting 2017-10-01', '\r\nRegarding your feedback our next board meeting is scheduled for\r\n\r\nSunday, 1st of October 2017\r\n\r\n21:00 Germany / Denmark\r\n20:00 UK / Canary Islands\r\n15:00 Indiana (USA)\r\n\r\nOur meeting room as usual:\r\n\r\nhttps://zoom.us/j/955240362\r\n\r\nOn our agenda:\r\n\r\n1.) Agreement with Johannes regarding old liabilities.\r\n\r\n2.) Standards for META-S, META-T and META-MT & accreditation of trainings (see the discussion [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=114&topics_offset=2|here]).\r\n\r\n3.) Insufficient working structure: PR / newsletter, India videos, certification\r\n\r\n4.) International META-Health Pro Café: Sharing, Supervision & Think Tank for certified professionals\r\n\r\n5.) Mhelizza\'s employment\r\n\r\n6.) New BoD from 2018: Who wants to resign, who wants to continue?\r\n\r\n7.) Next META-Health Conference: place and date, organizational committee\r\n\r\n\r\nPlease advise in advance if you\'ve other important points to discuss.', '12960dcbbd1891adbfb830cb33b4da8a', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-12960dcbbd@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(188, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1506979382, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Standards for Speakers, Trainers and Master Trainers ', 'Please check attached finalized version after BoD meeting 10/1\r\nThis version will then be published on www.meta-health.info under \"Professional Standards\"\r\n\r\nSpecific evaluation to be clarified by \"Rules of procedure\" where need arises.', '1e187fd78ffc2fd6ce081b86757105b7', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-1e187fd78f@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(189, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1506983638, 13, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Board of Directors and officers 2018/19', '~~#06F:__Updated 2017-10-03__~~\r\n\r\nOn the next board meeting 2017-11-12 decisions shall be taken regarding the members of the board for the period 2018/19 as well as regarding the mandatory officers in accordance to Californian law.\r\n\r\n!!Directors\r\n\r\nUntil now the present directors gave the following feedback:\r\n\r\n~~#900:*Kwesi wants to resign~~\r\n~~#096:*Anton wants to continue~~\r\n~~#096:*Lars wants to continue~~\r\n~~#096:*Robert wants to continue~~\r\n~~#096:*Diana wants to continue~~\r\n~~#096:*Kora wants to continue~~\r\n\r\nRegarding the quorum for the meetings an odd number of directors is preferred - 5 or 7 directors might be optimal for IMMA at the moment.\r\n\r\n!!Officers\r\n\r\nIn accordance to Californian law the mandatory officers are Chief Executive Officer, Chief Financial Officer and secretary. Beside that IMMA\'s bylaws include the option to elect a Chairman of the Board presiding at all meetings. The Chairman might get other duties like for example representing the organization. \r\n\r\nTo avoid conflicts of interests the best solution for a non profit organization is probably to separate the governing board with voluntary directors from the operating staff members (officers) getting paid.\r\n\r\nRegarding my personal experiences from the last 9 months IMMA needs alltogether at least 10 working hours per week to be administrated in a professional way - including communication with members and authorities, IT maintenance and updates as well as accounting as the main necessary tasks.', '813dfc4b2c0e7b190bf755a1462c013e', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', '', 'Thorsten-0-d4106fa103@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(190, '2', 'forum', 189, 'Kora', 1507038819, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'As mentioned in the meeting, Lucille White is interested to join the Board.\r\nAlso, Dr Ahmed Eldemellawy is interested to become Director and promises to commit himself to work for IMMA.\r\nI suggest both be invited to next meeting on nov 12 to present themselves.', '5fdc31aba87c9b8169ef9c2ae1ef7ad9', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Kora-189-5fdc31aba8@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-d4106fa103@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(191, '2', 'forum', 187, 'Thorsten', 1507073320, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'The recording of the board meeting:\r\n\r\n{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/236578968\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\"}', '74a19bfe07d889699331edf9a0889c9f', '', '', '81.38.22.193', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-187-74a19bfe07@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-12960dcbbd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(198, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1507491041, 18, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #6', '{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/228652317\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}\r\n\r\nVimeo review page: [https://vimeo.com/metahealth/review/228652317/1a62bbfa58]', '216ee856ad15a2801c94765e007c88b8', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-216ee856ad@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(199, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1507491186, 16, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #7', '{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/228654021\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}\r\n\r\nVimeo review page: [https://vimeo.com/metahealth/review/228654021/e1ed3bd6db]', 'f4ad1c4bef3e7ff80c2bacec36c981bb', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-f4ad1c4bef@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(200, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1507491317, 51, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #8', '{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/228651240\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}\r\n\r\nVimeo review page: [https://vimeo.com/metahealth/review/228651240/36fde58d15]', '5458379b7d41e54674b1b88febbebb95', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-5458379b7d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(201, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1507491489, 28, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #9', '{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/228650867\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}\r\n\r\nVimeo review page: [https://vimeo.com/metahealth/review/228650867/eff59c6f5a]', '461378d513686567a6723f8484f5c5bd', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-461378d513@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(202, '6', 'forum', 193, 'drankush', 1507551309, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'intro session inauguration by guests followed by miss pooja bedi intro plus her journey into happysouls .......followed by intro of anu mehta and dr kwesi and then tribute to late dr khalid followed by intorduction of mastertrainers on stage and then followed by introduction of attendents from audience', '632dcd64b74d1e4f88714b25a40616d2', '', '', '117.225.38.124', '', NULL, 'drankush-193-632dcd64b7@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-bc32a2082d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(203, '6', 'forum', 194, 'drankush', 1507552628, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'in this talk participiants talk about integration of homeopathy with metahealth with  case discussions.....', '04abdd6560d9b3f62bc42b093b077ed9', '', '', '117.225.184.71', '', NULL, 'drankush-194-04abdd6560@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-b09f93777d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(204, '6', 'forum', 193, 'Kora', 1507558109, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Thank you :-)\r\ncould you indicate the time (from-to) of each topic, and do you have suggestions what short or longer clips could be made that fascinate the viewer but not overwhelm them?', '4836b7777e563dcf2697e601dfe90017', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Kora-193-4836b7777e@www.meta-health.net', 'drankush-193-632dcd64b7@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(205, '6', 'forum', 194, 'Kora', 1507558328, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Thank you! Can we leave it as is or do you make suggestions where to split the video into smaller pieces?', 'ecc5d0a87139315997c78d39c99e89d5', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Kora-194-ecc5d0a871@www.meta-health.net', 'drankush-194-04abdd6560@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(206, '4', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1507638490, 70, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'E-Zine Project \'\'META-Healthy Life\'\'', 'Here we can plan and construct the first number of the META-E-Zine \'\'META-Healthy.Life\'\'.\r\n\r\nWhat do you think of the first thematic number being about \"Hormones, habits, lifestyle\"?\r\n\r\nClips of India videos as well as other material about diabetes, infertility, estrogen dominance, general stress responses would fit in.\r\nPlease send contributions to news@meta-health.net or post directly in this thread. \r\n\r\nThe Conference videos can be reviewed in the Pinboard forum [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum.php?forumId=6], each one with own thread. Please categorize their topics and propose what parts should be clipped out to keep information short and crisp!', '46a70ceaa1e5bfc82a91139467a3cac9', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-46a70ceaa1@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(207, '6', 'forum', 194, 'drankush', 1507642707, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'no its gud no need to cut short', '9cd32211e3d71772e0d83cdcd604abc0', '', '', '117.225.157.23', '', NULL, 'drankush-194-9cd32211e3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-194-ecc5d0a871@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(208, '6', 'forum', 146, 'Kora', 1507665566, 4, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Planning takes place here: [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=206&forumId=4]', '9cca62c84cd124d2828f2712656a3811', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Kora-146-9cca62c84c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(209, '6', 'forum', 146, 'baderpx@gmx.de', 1507666748, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'I find this good. Now it is important to find person to whrite articles.', 'bcbee17d0f2a9307dd71103dffd54b4a', '', '', '91.49.150.135', '', NULL, 'baderpx@gmx.de-146-bcbee17d0f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(210, '2', 'forum', 189, 'Kora', 1507672814, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Anu Mehta is also interested in joining the board.', '00fb78d7b3b167207631025015ec9a0f', '', '', '88.9.100.113', '', NULL, 'Kora-189-00fb78d7b3@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-d4106fa103@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(211, '6', 'forum', 194, 'Gaylene', 1507674126, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', '', 'Thank you for this video and the other 7 posted. Such a gift to us all. I am not trained as a homeopath but have used homeopathy for 32 years and I love this embracing and connection of homeopathy and Meta-Health. Thank you.', 'dad28385f32d9cc2ef4b32cf7d02c1ed', '', '', '125.236.169.207', '', NULL, 'Gaylene-194-dad28385f3@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-b09f93777d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(212, 'Geschlechtsorgane - Gebärmutter - Endometrium', 'wiki page', 0, 'Dara', 1508101891, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Fallbericht zur Endometriose mit starken Schmerzen mit Analyse der dahinterliegenden Programme', 'https://findewissen.de/dara/studie/endometriose-mit-starken-schmerzen/', '65565aa8869def856801cedebc3fecde', '', '', '78.54.21.221', '', NULL, 'Dara-0-65565aa886@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(213, '6', 'forum', 195, 'Thorsten', 1508697870, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Who is the speaker?', 'Talk about chakras & sound, followed by sound bowl meditation. What is the name of this beautiful lady?', '44334cbe5123655aa9db44057aea84c3', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-195-44334cbe51@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-aa3c6bdcdc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(215, '6', 'forum', 197, 'Thorsten', 1508698211, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #5', '\"Meditation for stronger emotion\" with Pooja Bedi', 'beb88751a2286710731f95ac8da14b08', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-197-beb88751a2@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-d62b39b8f8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(216, '6', 'forum', 200, 'Kora', 1508712272, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 16.2.2017 #8', 'Robert Waghmare, his story, META-Health and META-Kinetics', '496e657823fcbe59037fec2731ff2c4f', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-200-496e657823@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-5458379b7d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(225, '6', 'forum', 221, 'Kora', 1509054373, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 17.2.2017 #5', 'new developments: -11 Jasmina Kovacev New Consciousness,  11-21 Ute Hirth META-Energetics, 22-30 Anu Mehta Information medicine, 31-36 Dr Kwesi Astromedicine, Dr Ahmed song', '7f69f3d21bba6c6367e88dac5c1387a8', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-221-7f69f3d21b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-ceb847dcb8@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(226, '6', 'forum', 220, 'Kora', 1509054555, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 17.2.2017 #4', 'discussion lungs: Abhas Desai, Rob v O, Jasmina, Kwesi, Walter -50,\r\nRe-birthing breathing exercise', 'dbca71737a0b741433b6dcf22a050496', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-220-dbca71737a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-bbe075ed29@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(227, '6', 'forum', 222, 'Kora', 1509055757, 3, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 17.2.2017 #6', 'Karishma Ahooja (?) Ho\'oponopono, 11-14:30 H-breathing exercise, 14:30-27:30 meditation connecting with your inner child, Dr (?) Transformation of consciousness', 'f832451289cac459afa06d75923dbd8e', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-222-f832451289@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a9186208ff@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(228, '6', 'forum', 223, 'Kora', 1509057990, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: India Conference videos - 17.2.2017 #7', '-27 sex education & parenting in India, \r\n31:30-42:30 Dr Jacob & 42:30-end Anu Mehta: predict & prevent disease', '2ca46fbae75ab3c92bc57bc324fca367', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-223-2ca46fbae7@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-46f3107cef@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(229, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1509919214, 13, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Science backing up META-Health concept', 'This paper gives the science backing up the META-Health concept: [http://www.alternative-cancer-care.com/ |Psycho-Oncology]including Dr Hamer\'s findings and further physiological implications: it includes the immune function and a different view on microbial action, and it built up very logically.\r\nI would like our doctors and scientists to look into this and start a discussion which points to take up in our general understanding and teaching.', 'f815f2abf8c66a56f960e062b281f18e', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', '', 'Kora-0-f815f2abf8@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(230, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1509920083, 288, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'The function of migraine', 'This article looks at [http://neurosciencenews.com/migraine-oxidative-stress-7761/ |the function of migraine]: \r\n\r\n\"Previous research has suggested that individuals who experience migraines have higher levels of oxidative stress. Jonathan Borkum, PhD, of the University of Maine, notes that migraine triggers — including stress, sleep disruption, noise, air pollution, and diet–can increase brain oxidative stress, an imbalance between the production of free radicals and the ability of the body to counteract their harmful effects. “Oxidative stress is a useful signal of impending harm because a number of unfavorable conditions in the brain can give rise to it,” said Dr. Borkum. Therefore, targeting oxidative stress might help prevent or preempt migraines.\r\n\r\nIn his Views and Perspectives article, Dr. Borkum looks closely at the components of a migraine attack individually. In the context of a known threat to the brain — an interruption in blood supply–each of the components is protective: strengthening antioxidant defenses, lowering the production of oxidants, lowering energy requirements and, especially, releasing growth factors into the brain that protect existing neurons and support the birth and development of new neurons. “There are feedback loops between these components of a migraine attack that tie them together into an integrated system,” Dr. Borkum explained. “Thus, it seems likely that migraine attacks are not simply triggered by oxidative stress, they actively protect and repair the brain from it.”\r\n\r\nThis clearly goes in line with migraine as a symptom to discharge stored energy, as in a healing peak.', '3051f72c179ce63505cbf4c611ad84ce', '', '', '81.43.141.153', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-3051f72c17@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(231, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1510676001, 34, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'India Conference videos - 18.2.2017 #1', '\r\n\r\n{vimeo url=\"https://vimeo.com/240790006\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" showTitle=\"false\" showByline=\"false\" showPortrait=\"false\"}\r\n\r\nVimeo review page: [https://vimeo.com/metahealth/review/240790006/6cb3989e75]\r\n\r\n*Abuna Semai: sun-charged water\r\n*Rob van Overbruggen: empowering cancer clients\r\n*Dr Kwesi Anan Odum: META-Vision', 'd1bc434d2bd83a296dc76230380942f2', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', '', 'Kora-0-879bb922b2@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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(245, '6', 'forum', 232, 'Kora', 1510704853, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: India Conference videos - 18.2.2017 #2', 'Panel discussion about male sexuality, hormones and issues of the reproductive system\r\n- including male hair loss patterns', '2f838207af3499b4d01d08a47591d582', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-232-2f838207af@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-4c6c0f3493@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(246, '11', 'forum', 0, 'Cassini', 1511009292, 57, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Upload of Avatar  ', 'The Upload of an Avatar Picture did not work . Even the Conversion on 45 px x 45 px was not successfuly.  What goes wrong ?', 'dd47868a7a65793a9abe36b998a28692', '', '', '217.225.248.60', '', NULL, 'Cassini-0-dd47868a7a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(247, '11', 'forum', 246, 'Thorsten', 1511009660, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Upload of Avatar  ', 'What\'s your operating system and which browser do you use?', '02ac2a442dfdb33b5a214c85924177a0', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-246-02ac2a442d@www.meta-health.net', 'Cassini-0-dd47868a7a@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(248, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511221104, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Rules for training accreditation to be prepared', 'The Certification Committee needs to prepare the rules for accreditation of META-Health Certification - and affiliated trainings, before next board meeting on dec 17.\r\n\r\nUntil now, all Master Trainers would certify their students, and once a Master Trainer, would keep this right even when not doing any META-Health trainings for years, and not being in communication with the organization.\r\n\r\nAs Lars proposed in last board meeting, we can part the active Master Trainers from the others regarding the right to certify by themselves, as quality maintenance.\r\n\r\nNow, the event calendar is in place on www.meta-health.info, we want all META-Health trainings to be submitted, in order to have comprehensive information over the training possibilities throughout the world. Trainings not submitted would lose the right to be certified by IMMA without application to the Certification Committee (and further charge for extra work).\r\n\r\nIMMA can accredit even META-Health affiliated trainings and developments, as long as the link and communication with the organization is maintained by the Trainer/Master Trainer.\r\n\r\nDo you agree with this? Are there points you want to add?', 'c20b1384c0398ec5b8acb8be92927102', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-c20b1384c0@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(249, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511350263, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'META-Healthy Life Online Magazine', 'Read the first issue of META-Healthy Life here:\r\n[https://www.meta-healthy.life/hormones-habits-lifestyle/|Hormones, Habits, Lifestyle]\r\n{img fileId=\"2081\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\n\r\nThis magazine is published by[http://www.meta-health.info| IMMA] to educate the general public, and we are grateful when you share it, or it\'s articles, in your own networks. It\'s free and contains no ads.\r\n\r\nWhen you have own articles, podcasts or videos with content fitting into the categories \'\'META-Health Practice\'\', \'\'Science & Research\'\' or (healthy) \'\'Lifestyle\'\', please submit them to news@meta-health.net together with a short author\'s profile, a photo and your website, so IMMA can help you to promote yourself by your contribution!', 'cc7d830daa3b19d683c3aa609f4b854e', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-cc7d830daa@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(250, '14', 'forum', 115, 'Kora', 1511465443, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Ethical Standards PROPOSAL', 'Addition to \"Transparency\":\r\n*All members\' email lists belong to IMMA and are maintained and updated by the office staff. Officers can give out email lists of certain groups to persons with a mandate to communicate. Officers and members who end their task or leave their position are required to delete IMMA email lists they used.\r\n*Email communication to all IMMA members or any group thereof must be authorized by the Board of Directors, they are not to be used privately. Forum and private-message communication on www.meta-health.net however is open to all members.\r\n*In IMMA-related email communication, bcc (blind copies) are not acceptable.\r\n*Facebook communication in the official IMMA FB-group \"META-Health Community\" is an addition, not a substitute for communication via IMMA\'s office or the members\' portal.', 'e7dfae489b2e94e18ba84e44f1a63d1f', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-115-e7dfae489b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-8ed7aa6052@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(251, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511618669, 40, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Supporting the endocannabinoid system', 'In META-Health, we mainly work with the steering system of the organism i e the brain and nervous system that also use the endocrine system for our bodymind\'s responses.\r\nAn important role is performed by our endocannabinoid system, which is why cannabinoids like CBD and THC are working efficiently to help in reduction of dramatic symptoms.\r\nThis article shares many ways to support our internal cannabinoids, and lo and behold, meditation, exercise and probiotics are part of this:\r\n\r\n[https://www.optimallivingdynamics.com/blog/how-to-stimulate-and-support-your-endocannabinoid-system]', '9b9017e8650afae8c29cadb3ebbbdd67', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-9b9017e865@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(252, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511619030, 24, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Yoga for benefit', 'Do you use yoga in therapy? This website shows many poses for specific purposes.\r\n[https://www.yogajournal.com/poses/yoga-by-benefit]\r\nDo you agree, or want to add more?', '97b4e13eb8002fd6c3123a06a75b0206', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-97b4e13eb8@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(253, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511620151, 49, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Cause for fibromyalgia', 'This article claims that in fibromyalgia patients, blood vessels in the extremities have excessive nerve fibres in \"arteriole-venole shunts\" that influence ((Circulatory - System Overview|blood vessels)) regulation and leads to the typical pain experienced.\r\n[http://fibromyalgiaresources.com/fibromyalgia-mystery-blood-vessels/]\r\nFor my understanding, this might include a \"new brain-type\" proliferation after ((Nervous - Sensory Innervation|sensory)) self-devaluation resolutions and sensitizing , or like there could be a ((Musculoskeletal - Periosteum (Visceral Fascia)|periosteum)) reaction involved.\r\n\r\nWhat do you think?', '917ddd6b63515881ea2179f011dbd4fc', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-917ddd6b63@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(254, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511716409, 105, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Cannabis & the endocannabinoid system & META-Health', 'As our body has an internal balancing system using endocannabinoids, we can help both the sensitivity for conflicts, as physical reactions in both phases, by supporting this system. I shared about this in the [http://www.meta-health.net/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=251&topics_offset=1|therapy forum].\r\n\r\nIn a FB group Tron Enger initiated, several videos and documents were already shared, like [https://thesacredplant.com/docuseries/episodev1/|The Sacred Plant] series.\r\n\r\nThis thread is to discuss medical studies out there, to do own research and to share experiences. Welcome to join in!\r\n\r\nHere is a [https://www.slideshare.net/TheHempSolution/comprehensive-report-on-the-cannabis-extract-movement|comprehensive report] published by Justin Kander from Phoenix Tears.', '20e863f40f8222b3df2e2a7a60f7a439', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-20e863f40f@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(255, '6', 'forum', 254, 'Tron Enger', 1511721888, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Cannabis & the endocannabinoid system & META-Health', 'It looks like as if both the CBD (The non psychoactive part)  alone and in combination with THC, has a profound effect on our body.\r\nBoth to illnesses and problems in the conflict phase, and the healingphase.\r\n\r\nI still do not know how it relates to META-Health.\r\n\r\nThe following are said to be of help, and this is only for the CBD made from hemp without THC:', '19509c9b3210471bc950a1e157cfcf0b', '', '', '185.69.9.195', '', '', '10060-254-56c33a9675@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20e863f40f@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(256, '6', 'forum', 254, 'Tron Enger', 1511721958, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Cannabis & the endocannabinoid system & META-Health', 'The picture also shows the THC-part and the advantages of that.', '2985a3d94d42736d59c3baee758691a5', '', '', '185.69.9.195', '', '', '10060-254-54fbf2705c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20e863f40f@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(257, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1511732840, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '__~~#F00:Update jan 31: Please go to page 2 (scroll down to the bottom of this page above the reply box, click \"next\") to contribute to the consent in details and wording for the Mission statement!~~__\r\n\r\nContent of the pdf:\r\n\r\n!!Mission Statement\r\n*IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s true path\r\n\r\n!!!Why:\r\n*We believe in challenging the current paradigm of healing, by inviting empowerment of science and nature, in order to bring back the balance of health.\r\n\r\n!!!How:\r\n*we look at evolution and how we have biologically adapted to our environment by scientifically understanding how the brain and body have a deep relationship and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease\r\n*By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound analytical and simple teachings to find the deepest root cause of all disruptions \r\n\r\n!!!What:\r\n*By Offering simple and profound mind body spirit connection through science ,We welcome you to join our community under one umbrella to unite allopathic with holistic workers for awareness, learnings, clarity, credibility and scientific  research, including quantum, of true healing. Offering support for you and your clients, family and friends.  \r\n*Learn and Share from Master Trainers around the world\r\n\r\nFor feedback and discussion please reply to this post!', '15fd16752c9e40fd6c09d18d647c863a', '', '', '88.10.80.179', '', '', 'Kora-132-fdfe7cff3e@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(258, '5', 'forum', 248, 'Kora', 1511956637, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Rules for training accreditation to be prepared', 'Example/proposal:\r\n~~#00F:Additions after Committee meeting in blue~~\r\n\r\n__a.) Accredited trainings__\r\n~~#00F:META-Health Level 1(?), 2, 3 and modules thereof~~\r\n•    Trainings which enclose the complete core standard of the corresponding level\r\n•    Trainings have to be registered by IMMA in advance.\r\n•    The trainer promotes his training clearly as accredited META-Health training, linking visibly to the corresponding standard definition.\r\n•    IMMA promotes accredited trainings on websites, in social media and in newsletters.\r\n•    The trainer informs the participants comprehensively about IMMA and the standards.\r\n•    IMMA membership of the participants is mandatory for certification trainings.\r\n•    Master Trainer of accredited certification trainings are authorized to manage the certification process on behalf of IMMA.\r\n\r\n__b )  META-Health Extended trainings__\r\n~~#00F:Conducted by META-Health Trainers or Master Trainers~~\r\n~~#F00:Did we accept Level 1 or Level 2 as prerequisite for these trainings??~~\r\n•    Trainings other than certification trainings with relevant META-Health related content can be accredited as extensions, meaning their content builds upon the META-Health concept and provides new findings, applications or methods.\r\n•    Extended trainings are optional and classified as ongoing education for META-Health practitioners.\r\n•    Minimum requirement for a META-Health extended training is a foundation course as prerequisite or integrated into the training \r\n•    Trainings have to be announced in advance and accredited as Extensions by the Certification Committee.\r\n•    ~~#00F:To be accredited, an outline of the training content has to be submitted to the Certification Committee~~\r\n•    Trainings can be promoted by IMMA only if a clear backlink to IMMA is set.\r\n•    ~~#00F:Trainer needs to be IMMA member~~\r\n\r\n__c.) Affiliated trainings__\r\n~~#00F:Conducted by META-Health Professionals on Speaker Level or above.\r\nTrainings do not have to be called \"META-Health\". This could be trainings in various modalities like EFT, PEAT, nutrition, yoga etc., or rebranded training offers.~~\r\n•    Trainings other than certification trainings with relevant META-Health related content.\r\n•    Trainings have to be announced in advance and accepted by the Certification Committee.\r\n•    ~~#00F:To be accepted, an outline of the training content has to be submitted to the Certification Committee~~\r\n•    When IMMA core standards for any levels are met by the affiliated training, candidates can be certified as META-Health Practitioner or Master Practitioner by the Certification Committee only.\r\n•    Trainings can be promoted by IMMA only if a clear backlink to IMMA is set.\r\n•    ~~#00F:Trainer needs to be IMMA member~~', 'fe746ad73fd0f6c9b95aefde5a722b67', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', '', 'Kora-248-0d10ddb441@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-c20b1384c0@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(259, '12', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1511959685, 22, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'META-Health Convention 2018', 'IMMA will organize a META-Health Convention preliminary date 25-28 october 2018 near Barcelona, Spain.\r\nobjectives are to\r\n*Maintain contact to the members\r\n*Establish healthy communication\r\n*Update each other about integration, developments and standards\r\n*Inspire to take part and engage in Power Groups & Committees\r\n*Train Speakers, Trainers and Professionals in communication about META-Health & IMMA\r\n*Workshops for Power Groups\r\n*of course, everybody interested is welcome.\r\n\r\n*Other?? Please add\r\n\r\nTo date, Martin Hejlesen and Tron Enger showed interest to engage in organization.\r\n\r\nHelena suggested Finnish doctor [https://www.anttiheikkila.com/terveysklubi/cv_-_antti_heikkila/|Antti Heikkilä] to be invited to a Conference. She said he currently lives in Hamburg and speaks German and English, too.\r\nWhat do you think?', '36a440214242b916a0a57c3a71213857', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-36a4402142@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(260, '6', 'forum', 254, 'Kora', 1512049361, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: Cannabis & the endocannabinoid system & META-Health', 'How cannabinoids relate to META-Health is by that the endocannabinoid system is regulating and balancing our evaluation and reactions upon our environment, thus making us more resilient to stressors and also through regeneration phases which get easier and shorter. \r\n\r\nWhile it is true that we can\'t avoid a UDIN, most reactions we experience (and suffer from) daily are not due to a current UDIN but to triggers reminding of it, and our reactions are inflated by sensitivity that acts like an alarm mechanism. This mechanism is influenced by our feeling of resourcefulness and peace of mind. \r\n\r\nIn our work, we aim for both finding and neutralizing UDINs, for minimizing dramatic reactions in regeneration phases, and for enhancing general resilience. Especially the latter are connected to the endocannabinoid system in action.', 'ba1f8defb7ba393275f386e784942855', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', NULL, 'Kora-254-ba1f8defb7@www.meta-health.net', '10060-254-56c33a9675@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(261, '6', 'forum', 146, 'Kora', 1512053074, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: META-Health E-zine?', 'Now the first issues are online in both German and English languages.\r\n{img fileId=\"2084\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\nMETA-gesund! [https://www.meta-gesund.de/hormone-einstellung-lebensstil/|Hormone - Einstellung - Lebensstil]\r\nMETA-Healthy Life: [https://www.meta-healthy.life/hormones-habits-lifestyle/|Hormones - Habits - Lifestyle]\r\n\r\nPlease share the magazine and individual articles broadly and help to spread META-Health!\r\n\r\nIn January 2018 we will publish the next issue about \"Digestion, Energy & your Potential\" and welcome contributions from our amazing Community!\r\nYou can submit blog articles, videos etc anytime to news@meta-health.net', 'bebdae1ad268ec47d33717a988dff8ee', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', NULL, 'Kora-146-bebdae1ad2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-a8ce4baae4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(262, '4', 'forum', 206, 'Kora', 1512053392, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: E-Zine Project \'\'META-Healthy Life\'\'', 'Now the first issues are online in both German and English languages.\r\n{img fileId=\"2084\" thumb=\"box\"}\r\nMETA-gesund! [https://www.meta-gesund.de/hormone-einstellung-lebensstil/|Hormone - Einstellung - Lebensstil]\r\nMETA-Healthy Life: [https://www.meta-healthy.life/hormones-habits-lifestyle/|Hormones - Habits - Lifestyle]\r\n\r\nPlease share the magazine and individual articles broadly and help to spread META-Health!\r\n\r\nIn January 2018 we will publish the next issue about \"Digestion, Energy & your Potential\" and welcome contributions from our amazing Community!\r\nYou can submit blog articles, videos etc anytime to news@meta-health.net', 'd03b7739a1d11270139b85c816689ee7', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', NULL, 'Kora-206-d03b7739a1@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-46a70ceaa1@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(263, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1512081886, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'My thoughts:\r\n!!!Mission Statement\r\n\"~~#F0F:IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s true path~~ \"\r\n__Fine__, but the \'\'nerd\'\' in me asks \'\'is there an untrue path in nature?\'\' No.\r\nI\'d like to change it into \"~~#00F:IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing and applying the~~ (scientific) ~~#00F:understanding of salutogenesis~~ \", perhaps leave out \"scientific\" because salutogenesis is a scientific model anyway.\r\n~~#060:How about \"The IMMA is organized to empower the planet to raise consciousness and self-heal by sharing and applying the (scientific) understanding of salutogenesis~~ (this is a comment from Robert! And I could be fine with that also. /Kora)\r\n!!!Why\r\n\"~~#F0F:We believe in challenging the current paradigm of healing, by inviting empowerment of science and nature, in order to bring back the balance of health~~.\"\r\nDo you mean we empower science and nature? Or that we feel empowered by science and nature?\r\nWould it perhaps be enough to say \"~~#00F:We believe that for to achieve more balance and health, the current paradigm of medicine needs to be reviewed.~~\"?\r\n!!!How\r\n* \" ~~#F0F:we look at evolution and how we have biologically adapted to our environment by scientifically understanding how the brain and body have a deep relationship and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease~~\"\r\nAlternatively: \"~~#00F:Observations of adaptation and evolutionary processes confirm the relationship of our brain & body with the environment, and that development happens through crises - just as we experience in disease!~~ \"\r\n*  \"  ~~#F0F:By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound analytical and simple teachings to find the deepest root cause of all disruptions~~ \"\r\nThis sounds a little as if there was only one deepest cause to all disruptions. I\'d suggest \"  ~~#00F:By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound and simple insights to find the:root causes of any disruptions, as well as a methodology to transform them~~.\"\r\n!!!What\r\nThis refers to what IMMA can provide, right? So we should name\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA publishes the free online magazine \'\'META-Healthy Life\'\' to educate and empower the general public ~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA shares the living knowledge-base \'\'META-Wiki\'\' as well as educative material with her members~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA defines clear standards for different competence levels and a Code of Practice for all META-Health Practitioners.~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA provides an online platform for research and mutal support among Health Professionals~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA co-organizes meetings and conferences for Health Professionals and the general public.~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA maintains a case database for research and study.~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA maintains and publishes a list of certified META-Health Practitioners ~~\r\n~~#00F:*IMMA informs about META-Health events and trainings around the world ~~', '38449ae2f716a621df60195bd7b1bfc4', '', '', '83.51.152.159', '', '', 'Kora-132-2e31170a48@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-fdfe7cff3e@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(264, '6', 'forum', 254, 'Kora', 1512310228, 6, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Cannabis & the endocannabinoid system & META-Health', '[https://wakeup-world.com/2017/10/01/cannabis-the-ultimate-in-neuroprotection/|This article] refers to groundbreaking research about the neuroprotective  properties of different cannabinoids ( i e preventing the damage and death of brain cells like in dementia, ALS, Parkinsons):\r\n\r\n~~#060:\"mice modified to elicit the symptoms of Huntington’s disease. In the cell cultures they found THCA caused an increase in mitochondrial mass as well as reducing cell toxicity, while in the mice, __THCA improved their Huntington’s related restricted movement__, prevented striatal degeneration and reduced the inflammation caused by the disease.\"~~\r\n\r\n~~#060:“… useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of __oxidation associated diseases__, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in__ limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults__, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”~~\r\n~~#060:\r\n\"Not only that, but cannabinoids have been found to promote the holy grail of the healthy ageing brain, neurogenesis, or the growth of new brain cells. Research has shown the administration of plant cannabinoids promoted hippocampal neurogenesis – __new cell growth in the region of the brain associated both with memory and learning__.\"~~\r\n\r\n~~#060:\"And finally, CBD in particular is thought to limit the damage caused to the brain after a stroke by blocking the neurotransmitter, glutamate.\"~~\r\n\r\nIn summary:\r\n~~#060:\"This is one of the great advantages of cannabinoids. They have a very wide spectrum and are extremely varied compared to other neuroprotective agents that have been researched until now. These have consisted of anti-excitotoxins to improve the glutamate homeostasis, antioxidants or anti-inflammatories. But __what we know is that the various stimuli that cause cell death work together__. In other words, where there is excitotoxicity there is oxidative stress, the proteins become oxidized, they lose their function, they form together to make plaques, which causes an inflammatory response. __We are not going to halt neurodegenerative diseases unless we have neuroprotective strategies__ that work together by reducing inflammation while at the same time being antioxidants, inducing autophagy in order to eliminate the protein build up, and returning the glutamate levels to normal.__This is something that cannabinoids can do__, either one cannabinoid or a number of cannabinoids together\"~~\r\n\r\nIn META-Health, we look mainly at the results of conflicts in terms of symptoms, while scientific research presented here observes the ways by which the results are created in the brain.and nervous system, and the ways cannabinoids influences those.\r\nI think in our therapy releasing emotions, re-evaluating thoughts, and bringing the body and mind in a state of calm, we are using/targeting the very same system. Adding cannabinoids to the plan could help us get over blockages, and facilitate new orientation towards healthy interaction and self-development, thus making old triggers redundant.\r\n\r\nIn the brain, it might reduce both the impact of a UDIN and the oedema after a resolution, and by that also prevent the \"calcifications\" or placque being observed after recurring conflicts in one relay/area that we connect to the onset of dementia.', '753d6e4f3aa719ca6f212a4dd17e4396', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Kora-254-753d6e4f3a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20e863f40f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(265, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1512656710, 40, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Tracking the functioning of the brain', 'More to understand about the brain:\r\n[https://www.technologynetworks.com/neuroscience/articles/global-virtual-lab-will-solve-the-secrets-of-the-brain-using-lego-291895]\r\n\r\n[http://www.brainmap.org/taxonomy/behaviors.html|How certain behavious show in the brain]\r\n[http://www.brainmap.org/taxonomy/behaviors/Emotion.Anger.html|Example: anger]\r\n[http://www.brainmap.org/taxonomy/behaviors/Emotion.Disgust.html|Example: disgust]\r\n[http://www.brainmap.org/taxonomy/behaviors/Emotion.Fear.html|Example: fear]\r\n\r\nWhat do we deduce from these, comparing to our brain charts?', '0eb7cb168d44cdd651c012e483d60ffc', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-0eb7cb168d@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(266, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1513105702, 47, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Autism & treatments from a META-perspective', 'My new article backed up with lots of studies and evidence:\r\n[http://www.meta-evolution.de/autism-and-the-gut-brain-immune-axis/|Autism and the Gut-Brain-Immune Axis]', '66bc5d86cf7ded77b9a5dd9085b5fd1f', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-66bc5d86cf@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(267, '6', 'forum', 254, 'Kora', 1513105858, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'article on autism incl endocannabinoid system', 'My new article backed up with lots of studies and evidence:\r\n[http://www.meta-evolution.de/autism-and-the-gut-brain-immune-axis/|Autism and the Gut-Brain-Immune Axis]', '75ca99d93a168b450307e186854fe773', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Kora-254-75ca99d93a@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-20e863f40f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(268, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1513336931, 41, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Conflict with Johannes regarding course submission', '!!Introduction\r\n\r\nClipped from the agenda of the board meeting 2017-12-17:\r\n\r\n^Johannes submitted in November courses for publication on IMMA\'s website and in IMMA\'s ezine newsletter (to be issued twice the month). The courses did not clearly comply with the rules of procedure adopted by the Board of Directors and the Certification Committee. Therefore Thorsten as COO was unable to confirm the publication and forwarded the case to the Board of Directors for decision.\r\n\r\nJohannes reacted with an unobjective email sent to a list of undisclosed recipients getting personal against Thorsten.\r\n\r\nKwesi and Anton tried to establish a factual communication with all involved parts, but did not succeed because of Johannes\' denial. Therefore the Organizational Committee declared Johannes\' membership per 2017-12-10 as abeyant until the Board\'s decision.^', '0273d987ca8703ea7b4cd1e29ff79ade', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(269, '2', 'forum', 268, 'Thorsten', 1513337285, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What is Lifestyle Prescriptions?', 'When submitting the trainings the site metahealthuniversity.com forwarded to Lifestyle Prescriptions where Johannes offered the IMMA certification as bonus beside the LP certification.\r\n\r\nA [https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomchivers/this-london-university- keeps-hosting-pseudoscientific-events|source accessible to the public|noindex,nofollow] cites Johannes as follows:\r\n^\"Fisslinger denies that LP promotes any treatments, says LP is not based on meta-medicine, […]\"^\r\n\r\nIn the last week the site metahealthuniversity.com has been changed significantly - now offering again META-Health Certification Trainings under the logo of the Lifestyle Prescriptions University. There are still relevant similarities with the Lifestyle Prescriptions Health Coach trainings offered by the Lifestyle Prescriptions University.\r\n\r\nClarification is needed regarding both Lifestyle Prescriptions University\'s and Lifestyle Prescriptions Foundation\'s role in relation to IMMA.', '99bceb10d124a3d264f45622c030c800', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-268-99bceb10d1@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(270, '2', 'forum', 268, 'Thorsten', 1513337628, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Line of communication', 'In 2017 Johannes violated several times the lines of communication within IMMA and the META-Health Community - with his email sent 2017-11-21 as the actual culmination. The communication is documented (at the moment 8 pages A4).  \r\n\r\nIMMA can not get back to daily business without reconstituting a professional communication. Especially honorary members are perceived as role models for the whole community.', 'de052b036dcbb89a8c65c6f5096360e3', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-268-de052b036d@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(271, '2', 'forum', 268, 'Thorsten', 1513339488, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Johannes\' membership', 'Johannes cancelled his PayPal subscription actively 2016-08-26. The payment period ended 2017-01-27. A reminder sent by the COO 2017-05-07 was ignored.\r\n\r\nJohannes\' self-justification (clipped from a Facebook conversation with Kora):\r\n^\"And I would like to get a confirmation that all master trainers have paid their over due membership fees for the last years (I know many haven\'t owing IMMA thousands.... so this is absolutely not fair and needs to be addressed first).\" ^\r\n\r\nKora\'s answer:\r\n^\"There is a Board decision that all members have to pay their fees. And we are communicating with those who haven\'t, as far as it is visible (in the database, apparently there were no dates named, only \"please renew\", so if you know of DOCUMENTED claims by IMMA please forward.\"^\r\n\r\nEnd of communication.\r\n\r\n!!Honorary membership\r\nIn autumn old formal liabilities in IMMA\'s balance were discussed. Probably Johannes is the creditor of these liabilities retraceable until 2007. There\'s no written documentation available.\r\n\r\nFor easy handling the proposal was made to transform these liabilities to formal donations from Johannes. This transformation needs of course a written legal agreement to be checked by a lawyer or an authority. Johannes asked for life time honorary membership as condition.\r\n\r\nThe Board of Directors decided 2017-01-10:\r\n^\r\n*The Board of Directors accepts the solution in general.\r\n*With the exception of the membership fee all other of IMMA\'s standards and rules of procedure stay in force for Johannes.\r\n*Thorsten will work with the final shape of the agreement.^\r\n\r\nA legal requirement for such an agreement is that IMMA is back in good standing with the Californian tax authority FTB. IMMA\'s application shall be handled until mid of january 2018 regarding FTB\'s information.', 'd2235453634331af482211b90c2a435f', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-268-d223545363@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(272, '2', 'forum', 268, 'Thorsten', 1513339706, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Johannes\' outline for a solution', 'Johannes has given an outline for a solution 2017-12-14 via Anton:\r\n\r\n^\r\n\"1. Make it clear to all META-MT what they have to post on their websites so there is no confusion or double standard (and give them 4-5 weeks to do so).... like Text/Logo/Backlinks.... for META-Health 1/2/3 and associated trainings (like META-Kinetics, Lifestyle Prescriptions®). \r\n2. Myself and Anton are honorary founding members (no membership fee due) and are listed on the website as founders (which I believe is already there). \r\n3. The Lifestyle Prescriptions® Health Coach Trainings includes META-P/MP (similar to Lars) and naturally we follow IMMA standards. We submit students who want META-P/MP certification to IMMA (they become members and get their certificate). \r\n4. Lifestyle Prescriptions® Trainings are not connected with IMMA therefore no IMMA certification is needed. \r\n\r\nI am fully aware now that all IMMA Board related issues have to be emailed to office@meta-health.net\"^', '7abfdcbc4a1774daf3c303d4b993ab82', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-268-7abfdcbc4a@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(273, '2', 'forum', 268, 'Thorsten', 1513340308, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Proposal of the Organizational Committee', 'The Organizational Committee has discussed this complex case extensively in all aspects as above and will propose as decided 2017-12-14:\r\n\r\n*Both parts will seek for an agreement to recreate a trustful cooperation.\r\n*The agreement will include all aspects named from both parts.\r\n*The negotiations shall be finalized within two months.\r\n*To ensure transparency, reliability and legal compliance the agreement will be in written form.\r\n*For relevant parts the legal compliance of the agreement will be checked by a lawyer or an authority.\r\n*For IMMA\'s part the agreement needs to be adopted unanimously by the Board of Directors.', '19b717fa8b5646ee9cedf44eef510832', '', '', '88.10.50.154', '', '', 'Thorsten-268-e7e460f63b@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-0273d987ca@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(274, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1514814035, 40, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'John\'s MPE thesis', 'Submitted 29.12.2017', '5ee0af246b040f2780802d2a9312b828', '', '', '88.10.68.26', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-5ee0af246b@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(275, '9', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1515674443, 17, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Introduction', 'Dear META-Health Researchers,\r\n\r\nthank you very much for your will to support the scientific foundation of META-Health and to work on the format and evaluation of IMMA*s case database.\r\n\r\nWhen you will work with case studies, they are to be kept strictly confidential, not to be published or shared unless official permission is given.\r\n\r\nI\'d like us to discuss at this stage, what kind of format we want to store the cases in for to be most useful.\r\nWhat are your ideas about general and specific goals and usability of data?', 'c72550ee8790aa8fd2461caa52799da3', '', '', '88.10.68.26', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-c72550ee87@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(276, '5', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1515854832, 2, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Peer-review and evaluation of Expert theses', 'I think, a thesis should be checked for\r\n1. Compliance with the concept of Dr Hamer\'s findings - are assumptions made that want to be discussed?\r\n2. Compliance with anatomy and physiology - are assumptions made that want to be discussed?\r\n3. What new insights are found forwarding META-Health?\r\n4. Is evidence provided that supports the thesis (own or others\' case examples)?\r\n\r\nPlease comment or add your own ideas, so we find a working structure to evaluate the submitted material.', 'a5c939adff5a2d7c0edc7278c1c4387f', '', '', '88.10.68.26', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-a5c939adff@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(278, '5', 'forum', 274, 'Kora', 1515891144, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: John\'s MPE thesis', 'Attached the document with comments. If you add yours there too, the Committee can come to a conclusion.', 'a96a96e42c27803cc4e247a3f9a471c7', '', '', '88.10.68.26', '', NULL, 'Kora-274-a96a96e42c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-5ee0af246b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(279, '4', 'forum', 132, 'JANBICK', 1516175319, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'No comment on Mission Statement at this time.\r\nJAN !   BICK', 'be19b711395c56920087ad32cffa2d78', '', '', '172.91.150.41', '', NULL, 'JANBICK-132-be19b71139@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(280, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Thorsten', 1516189925, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I think it\'s important to accentuate that IMMA is a non profit organization, e.g.:\r\n\r\n~~#099:\"IMMA is organized for public benefit to empower the planet to raise consciousness and self-heal by sharing and applying the (scientific) understanding of salutogenesis.\"~~', '806e4d99f313592954161f8736b69b08', '', '', '88.10.68.26', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-2e31170a48@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(281, '4', 'forum', 132, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517063861, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Mission statements need to be easy and understandable to the whole, not just the parts...leave ou the big words... i offered this to my students...out of 50 people not one of them resonated...It needs to speak to our soul..that is what a mission statement is... THE WHY', 'd0b7ea49b2a97ea46dd2a121bd7a8d47', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-d0b7ea49b2@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(282, '4', 'forum', 0, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517063963, 28, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Ethics Committee', 'I would like to discuss a concern of mine privately with the ethics committee...please can you advise me who they are and their contact details.   I do not wish this to go public at the moment and have still no way in knowing if even this post is public or private', '23ae987e3c991fd18ec33ebc36793ef8', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-23ae987e3c@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(283, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517070581, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Penny, please clarify. The above statement/s all build upon your proposal?\r\nThey include the Why,\r\nas well as the What and the How.\r\nWhat do you think is not eligible in them?\r\n\r\nThe mission statement shall be finalized in the Board meeting next sunday and all members have been asked to give their opinion and proposals.', 'c079a77e38adb0b1cbff90cb64dc5800', '', '', '88.10.78.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-c079a77e38@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-d0b7ea49b2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(284, '4', 'forum', 282, 'Thorsten', 1517080647, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Ethics Committee', 'IMMA is a charity for public benefit in accordance to the organization\'s registration in California. One of our main principles is transparency. Therefore we prefer open discussions within our members\' portal here. All forums are open to all registered members with only few exceptions: the forum for the trainers, the forum for the board and the forums for the committees.\r\n\r\nBecause of the formal framework of IMMA\'s bylaws we have at the moment two active committees only: The Executive Committee - handling organizational and financial issues as well as deputizing the Board of Directors between the meetings - and the Certification Committee.\r\n\r\nRegarding Ethics, we have a project group of members that committed to / showed interest in working with ethical standards, and we are asking members to volunteer as mediators in conflict situations where they themselves can take an unbiased Meta-position. \r\n\r\nNo single member can speak on behalf of IMMA without a mandate of the Board of Directors. Therefore IMMA has installed a clear communication procedure: __All official communication needs to be initiated by sending an email to office@meta-health.net.  The email will be handled confidentially and  forwarded to the authorized committee or officer in case.__ \r\n\r\nTo ensure the legal data protection IMMA will not name any contact details of any member, director or officer.', '4b617e30c6f78f8ce66985183ec320d2', '', '', '88.10.78.182', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-282-4b617e30c6@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-23ae987e3c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(285, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1517080898, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Barcelona Convention - programme and ideas', '\r\nOur goal with the Convention is\r\n*__to create a community spirit and a strong bond of all members to IMMA__\r\nThis means, we focus on time together, open workshops and discussions and sharing, more than on \"consumer style\" listening to selected speakers.\r\n*__to include different flavours and to introduce new developments, thereby re-defining META-Health.__\r\nThis means, we encourage Practitioners and Developers to share their experiences and insights with the community. There can be (short) talks about own and clients\' stories, panel discussions, and open workshops about different points of interest.\r\n*__to show the value and potential of IMMA as organization for each member and for the general public__\r\nThis means, we provide free META-Health updates and education, we collect and structurize more resources, and we introduce new affiliated structures that open up more potential (like a profit-organization taking care of licensing and certification and business models, using the non-profit generously sharing part for marketing and paying for the work). This could also take place in workshops.\r\n*__to gather new energies for engagement in Power Groups like for research and peer-review, marketing, social media and the Online Magazine__\r\n\r\nSome ideas for Convention or META-Health slogans:\r\n*META-Health - Wings for your Health! \r\n*Barcelona - Spirit of We Convention (\"change I to We, and even Illness becomes Wellness\")\r\n*Barcelona - The Flavours of META-Health\r\n\r\n~~#900:Please add points or discuss these named ones, and also how to formulate this best, as it shall be included into the members\' notifications.~~', '6b589105d543c176e182d40d293af108', '', '', '88.10.78.182', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-6b589105d5@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(286, '4', 'forum', 132, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1517301817, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Mission Statement\r\nIMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s path.\r\n\r\n- (deleted \"true) the wording must be simple and I do not understand the word salutogenesis\r\n\r\nWhy:\r\nWe believe in challenging the current paradigm of healing, by inviting empowerment of science and nature, in order to bring back the balance of health.\r\n-I like empowerment of both science(testing ideas) and nature(observation)\r\n\r\nHow:\r\nwe look at evolution and how we have biologically adapted to our environment by scientifically understanding how the brain and body have a deep relationship and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease\r\n-I like this sentence\r\n\r\nBy building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound analytical and simple teachings to find the deepest root cause of all disruptions\r\n-I like this sentence\r\n\r\nWhat:\r\nBy Offering simple and profound mind body spirit connection through science ,We welcome you to join our community under one umbrella to unite allopathic with holistic workers for awareness, learnings, clarity, credibility and scientific research, including quantum, of true healing. Offering support for you and your clients, family and friends.\r\nLearn and Share from Master Trainers around the world\r\n-I like this sentence\r\n\r\nPS: I have just spent 2 months in the real world. Very few people understand our paradigm. Even doctors and nurses. If they do not spend time to understand it. Right now I feel there two types of people in the world, those who get it (5%) and the rest of the world. 5% is plenty for our tiny organisation if we target right. And cooperate. And let people do what they do best and not try to do everything.', 'b2fa7b806c315823e0bb19c57fe9e64f', '', '', '185.126.109.182', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-132-b2fa7b806c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-fdfe7cff3e@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(287, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517312335, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '\"Salutogenesis is a term coined by Aaron Antonovsky,[1] a professor of medical sociology. The term describes an approach focusing on factors that support human health and well-being, rather than on factors that cause disease (pathogenesis). More specifically, the \"salutogenic model\" is concerned with the relationship between health, stress, and coping.\" (wikipedia)\r\nI proposed the term because it speaks to health professionals and describes what we do in META-Health.\r\n\r\nWe don\'t need to use it if you don\'t like it, but I want us to be clear and meaningful in wording: \r\n- If you use \"science\" over and over, we must refer to that science. \r\n- A deep relationship between brain and body __is__ not a process that we call illness and disease - the relationship can __create and modulate__ processes that we call disease.\r\n\r\nI think in the \"What\", specific things IMMA provides are esssential to name, as I proposed above.\r\nThese are all explaining how we carry out the mission.', 'e7e7e12643f05fb475c9d333d35d93e9', '', '', '88.12.234.194', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-e7e7e12643@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-132-b2fa7b806c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(288, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Mary Jane Newman', 1517325592, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I agree with what Penny & Lars say here. \r\n\r\nUsing jargon-type words like salutogenesis does not help us as meta-health professionals to connect with the wider world whom we\'re aiming to reach with our tools, skills and knowledge. \r\n\r\nWe don\'t need to preach to other health professionals by using words like that in our mission statements. A mission statement needs to speak to the masses, whom we\'re targeting, which is part of our \'why\'. \r\n\r\nClear & meaningful in wording to all is what is essential here, not to just those who work in science and the top echelons of health. \r\n\r\nWe\'re working from the grassroots upwards - this is where our people are coming from who require our skills and knowledge and these are the people need clear and meaningful wording, which they can identify with. Your average person does not identify with words like salutogenesis. I had to look this up & I\'m an educated person. \r\n\r\nPenny makes a good point above, in suggesting we all listen to what Simon Sinek talks about in his talk on \'The Why\'. This is the essence of where we need to come from. \r\n\r\nAnd as such, I like the original statement or the suggested changes by Lars.', 'a6d642f8c2e16bfab6ac11004b579aa2', '', '', '90.255.47.147', '', NULL, 'maryjane-132-a6d642f8c2@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(289, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Mairi Stones', 1517326731, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I am still a student but would like to make a few suggestions regarding the mission statement etc.\r\n\r\nI feel this needs to be something easily understood by the lay person and health professional alike, something that they will easily connect with and want to know more about. It seems important then, to use language that is simple and easy for anyone to understand.\r\n\r\nHere\'s my attempt:\r\n\r\nMission: The IMMA is a Non-Profit organisation dedicated to empowering the world to heal by sharing ideas which support human health and wellbeing.\r\n\r\nWhy: \"We believe in challenging the current health paradigm and spreading understanding so we can bring greater healing to the world.\r\n\r\nHow: By understanding the interconnectedness of the Body, Mind and Social relationships which are based in our biology we uncover the root cause of physical or emotional disease.\r\n\r\nWhat: Through the practice and art of analysing the symptoms, specific stress triggers, emotions and beliefs affecting organ tissues  we empower clients to self heal.   \r\n\r\nMaybe over simplified. But I feel we need to spell it out in simple terms and to make it inspiring.', '5d14f029ba17f29d603e524d7acf9ae9', '', '', '94.196.78.220', '', NULL, 'Mairi Stones-132-5d14f029ba@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(290, '4', 'forum', 132, 'karen koefman', 1517330252, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', ' As stated from\r\nmy experience the simpler the better to be inclusive - the purpose actually being not to ‘please’ those in charge of any organisation but to  attract those who would benefit from it and empower those working within its scope?? I may be wrong. \r\nOn that basis i like your original one Penny Croal and lars’ comments but find the others more excluding and difficult to understand   -having said that from memory its a process with little joy in it so thanks to you all for doing it', '957eaadca3b24dcc73a8f61c967d9cb9', '', '', '82.132.224.61', '', NULL, 'karen koefman-132-957eaadca3@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(291, '4', 'forum', 132, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517334484, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Please review Simon Sinek and my original proposal as to what a mission statement is... \r\nit should touch the souls and hearts of people ... you can add in the scientific jargon later... .', '40fcb75b3757540124fcdaee4b3e9255', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-40fcb75b37@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-c079a77e38@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(292, '4', 'forum', 132, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517334580, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Excellent Lars', 'b20e8adb5f0e62a0efcea77f5ba2339a', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-b20e8adb5f@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-132-b2fa7b806c@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(293, '4', 'forum', 132, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517334849, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Perhaps this is a cultural language, however Kora, this is not touching the hearts and souls nor as Lars mentioned who are you targeting.  If the medical establishment does not understand, how can we invite others in.  \r\nLet us step back and speak to the people outside META the ones we need to target.  \r\nI am not sure who you are speaking to in your words.  I really like Lars adaptation of this and would like to know who will be making this decision on Sunday.', 'aaac83a867facd1412b7b76b470ec8a5', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-aaac83a867@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-e7e7e12643@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(294, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517343059, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Thank you all for your opinions and ideas.\r\nTo speak to both IMMA\'s target groups (health-interested general public and health professionals, including doctors)\r\nI\'ll have another try to let the wording be both understandable, heart-felt, meaningful and short, while going from general to specific:\r\n!!Mission Statement\r\nIMMA is organized for public benefit, to empower the world by sharing the scientific understanding of self-healing. \r\n!!!Why\r\nWe believe that raising the consciousness about what is creating resilience and life quality, will change the current health paradigm and health practice!\r\n!!!How\r\nOur beautiful international community develops and applies the understanding of the interconnectedness of Body, Mind and Social relationships, so that we can uncover the root cause of physical and emotional disease. \r\n!!!What\r\nIMMA as Non-Profit organization is offering support for you and your clients, family and friends, by\r\n*publishing the free online magazine META-Healthy Life to educate, convince and empower the world to create well-being\r\n*sharing the living knowledge-base META-Wiki as well as educative material with her members\r\n*co-organizing meetings and conferences for Health Professionals and for everybody interested to join our community\r\n*providing an online platform for research, mutual support, and sharing\r\n*maintaining a case database for research and study\r\n*defining clear standards for different competence levels and a Code of Practice for all META-Health Practitioners\r\n*maintaining and publishing a list of certified META-Health Practitioners ready to help you to transform dis-ease into ease and empowerment\r\n*informing about META-Health events and trainings around the world!', '23968e84124b33882e4628bda10679a7', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-23968e8412@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(295, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517343567, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Penny, the decisions will be made by the Board of Directors: https://www.meta-health.info/imma/organization/', 'd38f95160345c5bcd44e8e07d0a0172e', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-d38f951603@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-aaac83a867@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(296, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Thorsten', 1517343840, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'In accordance to IMMA\'s bylaws the [https://www.meta-health.info/imma/organization/|Board of Directors] will take the decision on sunday. All 9 directors are entitled to vote. The most democratic leadership since founding IMMA in 2004 :-)', '63ce5a39b6684c85018f6918ad2e67f6', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-132-63ce5a39b6@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-aaac83a867@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(297, '4', 'forum', 132, 'metafys@gmail.com', 1517344965, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I like Lars\' last version and yes it is important that we use simple language that people actually understands. \r\nLisbeth', '5d61d1b1d4641fb99d9f4aba495a38f7', '', '', '94.145.129.231', '', NULL, 'metafys@gmail.com-132-5d61d1b1d4@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(298, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Thorsten', 1517345240, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'In the Board we intend to take decisions in consent. How can we integrate all aspects of this discussion in one proposal?', '30746de17ade26707bd914f6fd499b43', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-132-30746de17a@www.meta-health.net', 'metafys@gmail.com-132-5d61d1b1d4@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(299, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Jo Trewartha', 1517352421, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'There’s lots of lovely ideas here but what resonates most with me is that a mission statement is short, concise and memorable so I feel the one offered by Penny Croal is most apt. \r\n\r\nThe longer pieces read more like statements as to why META-Health is a big deal. \r\n\r\nIdeally would be nice if everyone who wanted to within IMMA could vote rather than a select few made decisions for everyone.', '4a730edddcb7c609ccafd38ccefc5291', '', '', '82.41.92.179', '', NULL, '10349-132-4a730edddc@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-63ce5a39b6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(300, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Sharon Clark', 1517354177, 1, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'An organisations mission statement should clearly communicate what it is that they do. Many mission statements succumb to an overuse of words in general, In particular, words or expressions (jargon) used by a profession or group that are difficult for others to understand. I am in agreement with Penny and Lars that we need to remain focused on our target audience and be clear and consice and for the Layman! \r\n\r\nLayman\'s terms- someone who is not trained to a high or professional standard in a particular subject. the layman (=all laymen as a group): a medical dictionary for the layman. in layman\'s terms (=in words that someone who is not an expert can understand): What does that mean in layman\'s terms?\r\n\r\nI would also like to second Karen\'s sentiment and say thank you for doing the Mission Statement.', 'd1f97d1893fb4ab22f97c2541ffd224c', '', '', '82.43.218.177', '', NULL, 'Sharon Clark-132-d1f97d1893@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(301, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517354355, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '10349, Penny\'s proposal is not being voted up or down here, nor is anyone elses\', but it is discussed, taking all viewpoints into account. And yes, every member WAS invited to join this discussion since the thread was created quite some time ago.', '172cdde7e874ae945a7d1045048bf164', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-172cdde7e8@www.meta-health.net', '10349-132-4a730edddc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(302, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Thorsten', 1517358433, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Jo,  IMMA has been founded in 2004 as a non voting members organization under the autocratic leadership of only 3 directors (the legal minimum in California). As late as in autumn 2016 the board of directors was extended to 6 persons with full voting rights. With the new election period 2018/19 we\'ve now 9 directors on an equal footing. In fact that\'s a bit more democratic than originally intended on the Master Trainer Convention 2016. (:wink:)\r\n\r\nThis members\' portal has been initiated i.a. to democratize IMMA. Every member is free to share his / her opinions here. We send monthly notifications what\'s going on in IMMA (as some members disliked the automatic notifications sent by the server). Also every member is free to take part in the power groups to create the living META-Health community. \r\n\r\nThis thread is open since june 2017. It\'s time to finalize this project now. Please, feel alltogether free to participate with your ideas to __phrase an integrative mission statement which can be adopted in consent__ - as we did with all other board decisions in 2017.', '1181870bfad124ea47e1bff29a7a0d77', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-132-1181870bfa@www.meta-health.net', '10349-132-4a730edddc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(303, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Gaylene', 1517382787, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I have read through the IMMA thread and would love to have Lars Mission statement above. This is what resonates with me and how I feel from my heart. Salutogenesis does not resonate with me and will not with most, in my opinion. Also we do not need the word \'true\' in nature\'s path - if it is nature\'s path then it is already true. Once agreed by the IMMA Board of Directors, the statements need to be proof read again for \'fluid\' reading and grammatical correctness. Or probably proof read before voting as some commas  /  capital letters are missing and a couple of words have a capital letter where they shouldn\'t (in my opinion).  I would like to personally thank everyone involved in creating this mission statement.', '2ab5a453cc10fe8cc31ab88e62252032', '', '', '125.236.170.176', '', NULL, 'Gaylene-132-2ab5a453cc@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(304, '4', 'forum', 132, 'DeborahWigginsHay', 1517389447, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I like this, Thorstens version of the mission statement. It is clearer and succinct. I do think we should be using the word salutogenesis - it is the correct ‘scientific’ term for Meta Health and what we do plus, it is a positive reference for our view of health.\r\nPersonally, i think there should be a balance of ‘science’ and ‘art’ in our statement, which embodies the poetry and technicality of our craft.', '12c77d91c9731fcb95ff2e6d7c2a7fb9', '', '', '213.205.236.101', '', NULL, 'DeborahWigginsHay-132-12c77d91c9@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(305, '4', 'forum', 132, 'DeborahWigginsHay', 1517390018, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'The statement under “why” makes no real sense here. \r\nWhat does this actually mean: “By empowering science and nature”? We are neither empowering ‘science’ or ‘nature’ (both of which are hugely powerful already). \r\nDo we mean to “empower others through facilitating their deeper understanding of scientific and natural processes”? \r\nOr something similar?', 'd3614f570ebd72fc801995c319ed34e5', '', '', '213.205.232.101', '', NULL, 'DeborahWigginsHay-132-d3614f570e@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(306, '4', 'forum', 132, 'DeborahWigginsHay', 1517390135, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Mairi Stones - I like your rewrite: a clear and simple adaption.', 'c99148057fdb2114b1b81ab498d36342', '', '', '213.205.232.101', '', NULL, 'DeborahWigginsHay-132-c99148057f@www.meta-health.net', 'Mairi Stones-132-5d14f029ba@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(307, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Page2of1', 1517397598, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Aw: Aw: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Hello to all I would like to add to this discussion by agreeing with what Penny & Lars say here.\r\n\r\nI do believe that it is important for us to connect with everyone and I know how off-putting it is (having spent many years writing contracts for a living) to have words that people can\'t understand or connect with.   Wellbeing is personal and it feels to me that the wording should speak to that and make it easy to understand.   Using words that people don\'t understand can a appear to look like a justification for an uncertainty and a need to make us look like the big guns.  We are people who help people pure and simple.  Keeping this clear and simple wins every time - in this way everyone can understand and connect. \r\n\r\nPenny does make a good point above, in suggesting we all listen to what Simon Sinek talks about in his talk on \'The Why\'. This is the essence of where we need to come from.\r\n\r\nI too like the original statement or the suggested changes by Lars.\r\n\r\nIt can be challenging to get things right but feel sure that everyone is listening and that the right decision will be reached.', 'a3685069006ab27146ef7398a333935e', '', '', '176.251.250.180', '', NULL, 'Page2of1-132-a368506900@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-132-806e4d99f3@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(308, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517400884, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Dear all, \r\nthank you again for your input which is acknowledged\r\n.\r\nAgain, I need to emphasize here that ~~#F00:we at this stage don\'t \"vote\" for any proposal, but that we want to find the wording which keeps the intention to speak to the hearts, to be short, concise and easily understandable, while also being correct and follow logic.~~\r\nPutting our different skills together is our strength!\r\n\r\nTo do this now, we can put the different proposals for each of the parts (Mission statement, Why, How and What) beneath each other to compare and perhaps recombine, until we reach the wording everyone can support. Therefore we need to be able to explain, why we would want to adopt or to change anything.\r\n\r\nTo begin with the __~~#F00:mission statement itself~~__, the proposals I found are:\r\n__\"IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s path. \"__\r\n\r\n__\"IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing and applying the  understanding of salutogenesis\"__\r\n\r\n__\"IMMA is organized for public benefit to empower the planet to raise consciousness and self-heal by sharing and applying the understanding of salutogenesis.\"__\r\n(As most don\'t resonate with \"salutogenesis\", we can replace that and use the term later on another page which will be about \"META-Health and Science\".)\r\n\r\n__\"IMMA is a Non-Profit organisation dedicated to empowering the world to heal by sharing ideas which support human health and wellbeing. \"__\r\n\r\n__\"IMMA is organized for public benefit, to empower the world by sharing the scientific understanding of self-healing.\" __\r\n\r\n~~#F00:Please respond to this post with which parts from these different proposals you want to see in the Mission statement, and why.~~', '0afc24478654daa0cd0093007cc4d54b', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-132-8329deb2c6@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(309, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517402674, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', ' Re: IMMA MISSION STATEMENT - consent', 'All proposals include __\"empowering the world\"__, so I assume we keep that.\r\n\r\nI question \"sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s path\", because basically, every nature science shares it\'s understanding, but this is not describing what we do (and we don\'t teach nature science). Besides that, \"nature\'s path\" implies to me living and dying, eating and being eaten. Although this may belong to our understanding as well, it is not what META-Health is about to me.\r\n\r\nI am fine with leaving the term \"salutogenesis\" to another part of the IMMA site where we explain our scientific bases and approach.\r\n\r\nI find instead \"sharing ideas which support human health and wellbeing\" concise and true.\r\n\r\nI find it in the Mission statement more important to name IMMA as organization for public benefit (as is stated in her bylaws), because this can appeal more to potential donators.\r\n\r\nTogether, this could sound like:\r\n__\"IMMA, as organization for public benefit, is empowering the world to self-heal by sharing ideas which support human health and wellbeing.\"__\r\n\r\nThe following why, how and what must then be more precise about the ideas and the sharing.', '7d5394a52cf4923da87f7dbb7286466e', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-7d5394a52c@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-8329deb2c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(310, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517438028, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '~~#F00:Different proposals for \"Why\" found in above discussion:~~\r\n\"We believe in challenging the current paradigm of healing, by inviting empowerment of science and nature, in order to bring back the balance of health. \"\r\n\r\n\"We believe that for to achieve more balance and health, the current paradigm of medicine needs to be reviewed.\"\r\n\r\n\"We believe in challenging the current health paradigm and spreading understanding so we can bring greater healing to the world. \"\r\n\r\n\"We believe that raising the consciousness about what is creating resilience and life quality, will change the current health paradigm and health practice! \"\r\n\r\n~~#F00:Please reply to this post to recombine and complete this part of the mission statement.~~', 'c66a9e388ce0832aa519c081d95b9590', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-132-4e448b8d72@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(311, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517438990, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'in the __Why__, I find it meaningful to name that__ the current health paradigm be challenged__ - because that\'s why we share (new) ideas which support human health and wellbeing.\r\nDeborah & me doubted the wording \"inviting empowerment of science and nature\" to be appropriate and explained why before.\r\n\r\nSo I find \"__We believe that raising the consciousness about what is creating resilience and life quality, will change the current health paradigm and health practice! __\" precise and appealing, and it is not repeating what was already said. Using the well-known terms \"resilience\" and \"life quality\" seems clearer and deeper to me than \"bringing back the balance of health\", though it may describe the same.', '0bebd60045a99f1b3a090f0d3280345a', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-0bebd60045@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-4e448b8d72@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(312, '9', 'forum', 275, 'DeborahWigginsHay', 1517441550, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Introduction', 'Hi Kora,\r\n\r\nI guess the thing is to know exactly what the purpose of the case studies is?\r\nAre they for reference material for all IMMA members to be able to access at any time?\r\nAre they archived and for verifying internal IMMA standards?\r\nAre they to create a more formal and stringent database of cases for scientific or statistical analysis?\r\nAre we actively trying to create ‘scientific studies’ which will require stringent methods of measuring and assessing the scientific parameters being measured?\r\nDepending on what the aims are, may vary both the requirements and the methodology of storing data, ie what we need to record and how we might record it.', '595f0a7effea0fb0af51b4c33bc625fd', '', '', '213.205.232.249', '', NULL, 'DeborahWigginsHay-275-595f0a7eff@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-c72550ee87@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(313, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517504785, 2, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '~~#F00:Different proposals for \"__How__\" found in above discussion:~~\r\n\" -   we look at evolution and how we have biologically adapted to our environment by scientifically understanding how the brain and body have a deep relationship and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease\r\n -   By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound analytical and simple teachings to find the deepest root cause of all disruptions \"\r\n\r\n\"- Observations of adaptation and evolutionary processes confirm the relationship of our brain & body with the environment, and that development happens through crises - just as we experience in disease!\r\n-  By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound and simple insights to find the:root causes of any disruptions, as well as a methodology to transform them. \" \r\n\r\n\" By understanding the interconnectedness of the Body, Mind and Social relationships which are based in our biology we uncover the root cause of physical or emotional disease.\"\r\n\r\n\"Our beautiful international community develops and applies the understanding of the interconnectedness of Body, Mind and Social relationships, so that we can uncover the root cause of physical and emotional disease. \"\r\n\r\n~~#F00:Please reply to this post to recombine and complete this part of the mission statement.~~', 'e3fad61a5fd662e2c0e3a2ee47dcae86', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-e3fad61a5f@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(314, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517505665, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I find that the latter 2 proposals summarize the message of the original one, thus making it shorter and crispier, without losing intention or content.\r\nI think the international community should be named here.\r\nI think that both the finding as the transforming of root causes for disease should be named here, in order to explain __how__ IMMA\'s certified practitioners work..\r\n\r\nSo in one sentence this might read:\r\n__\"Our beautiful international community develops and applies the understanding of the interconnectedness of Body, Mind and Social relationships based in our biology, so that we can uncover and transform the root cause of physical and emotional disease. \" __', '3be6e4916705652c44ce1fb968b9bf53', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-3be6e49167@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-e3fad61a5f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(315, '9', 'forum', 275, 'Kora', 1517520873, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Introduction', 'I guess the thing is to know exactly what the purpose of the case studies is?\r\n~~#009:It is for us to define which purposes they are useful for. There is a big potential in collecting the data to compare similar symptoms, settings etc to evaluate appropriate methods and possible outcomes.~~\r\n\r\nAre they for reference material for all IMMA members to be able to access at any time?\r\n~~#009:Not generally, but certain cases where we have permission to share, will hopefully be available to enlighten students and practitioners.~~\r\n\r\nAre they archived and for verifying internal IMMA standards?\r\n~~#009:They are archived and might be used for illustrating standards. At this point, the standards and formats vary a lot, this is why we want to think of the most valuable way to ask for documentation in the future.~~\r\n\r\nAre they to create a more formal and stringent database of cases for scientific or statistical analysis?\r\n~~#009:This is a potential if there are forces inside IMA who drive this project. Then, the cases as are must be filtered and the format aligned.~~\r\n\r\nAre we actively trying to create ‘scientific studies’ which will require stringent methods of measuring and assessing the scientific parameters being measured?\r\n~~#009:See above.~~\r\n\r\nDepending on what the aims are, may vary both the requirements and the methodology of storing data, ie what we need to record and how we might record it. \r\n~~#009:Given one wanted to further explore thyroid questions for example, or asthma, or to review the phases model, wouldn\'t it be useful to check all the available cases we have? So what do you think would be the most useful way to write and to store the cases coming in from students and practitioners?~~', 'c5d29e42f18648917ab3e4f97060484f', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-275-c5d29e42f1@www.meta-health.net', 'DeborahWigginsHay-275-595f0a7eff@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(316, '4', 'forum', 132, 'helsmuzza', 1517578320, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'My feeling is that we strip it back to Mission Statement and Vision Statement that is simple and appeals to all. Also one that is memorable. The how, what and why can be incorporated in to a set of Core Values. I also think it is important that we mention Meta-health in these statements. Could we test these on people who don\'t know anything about Meta to see what their perception is? \r\nMy suggestions:\r\n===MISSION statement=== – (what we do and for who)\r\nEmpowering people to gain freedom from illness and disease by using Meta-health to self-heal.\r\n===VISION Statement ===(future objective – ultimate goal)\r\nOur dream is a world where all people know that we hold the power within ourselves to heal and restore the balance of health.\r\n===CORE VALUES===\r\nWe believe that we all have the ability to heal ourselves\r\nWe believe that by finding the root cause of a disease and releasing the emotions and challenging beliefs we can find a way to heal\r\nWe are dedicated to collaborating with conventional and traditional medicine to enable us to find new ways of healing\r\nWe want the knowledge about Meta-health to be accessible to everyone\r\nWe believe that by using scientific knowledge and allowing nature to run its course there can be less suffering and pain in the world\r\nTo get our message across we commit to training and supporting Meta-Health practitioners to the highest standards possible', 'cdb2c5337b859057421fc5a91201db23', '', '', '86.40.238.156', '', NULL, 'helsmuzza-132-cdb2c5337b@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-3be6e49167@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(317, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517767428, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'The Mission statement itself will be seen on the front page already, while the whole Mission - Why - How - What will be shown on the page about IMMA.\r\nI like this format that Penny proposed, as it answers just the questions one might ask about what IMMA is and does, including the core values. However, your proposal, which I find well-put, will be included into the Board discussion.\r\n\r\nI suggest we all continue thinking about the texts and pictures shown on IMMA\'s website, aiming to align and complete them so every member feels motivated and grateful to share [http://|www.meta-health.info]!', '3a5a843c2275a7d68a20f46bb89ea8b6', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-3a5a843c22@www.meta-health.net', 'helsmuzza-132-cdb2c5337b@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(318, '4', 'forum', 132, 'JANBICK', 1517905510, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', '\"IMMA is organized for public benefit, to empower the world by sharing the scientific understanding of self-healing.\"\r\n\r\nJAN !  BICK', '6515cc24f2da1a20f2c921c50cd1cacd', '', '', '172.91.150.41', '', NULL, 'JANBICK-132-6515cc24f2@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-8329deb2c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(319, '4', 'forum', 132, 'penny@changeahead.biz', 1517912865, 0, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I am finding this thread confusing and for me it too convoluted and scattered.  Many of my students/practitioners have advised that they have added and responded, however i cannot see them on this thread... \r\nPlease can highlight what the options are now.  Thank you', '75732e4783accbbd2ecbac70aebf367d', '', '', '82.37.236.183', '', NULL, 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-75732e4783@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(320, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1517919853, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Please look on the comments above (here on page 2), framed in ~~#F00:RED~~ letters, for collected proposals and summary.\r\nPlease comment by clicking \"reply\" directly under each post, then it will not be confusing to read.', '927a0156e1e6c702a145d1a0fe829340', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-927a0156e1@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-132-75732e4783@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(321, '2', 'forum', 0, 'Thorsten', 1517958829, 21, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Thoughts about IMMA by Penny', 'Penny presented her thoughts at the Board meeting 2018-02-04, when waiting for more directors to connect to the meeting room. Here is her written summary.', '7c7fef41dc1637f522280c1abeb772f2', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Thorsten-0-7c7fef41dc@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(322, '4', 'forum', 132, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1517990623, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I support this one:\r\n\"IMMA as a Non-Profit organization is dedicated in empowering the world to self-heal by sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s path. \"', '601c1edd17fe451d98d59a50439edcb4', '', '', '77.241.134.68', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-132-601c1edd17@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-8329deb2c6@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(323, '4', 'forum', 132, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1517990833, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I support this \"why\"\r\n\"We believe that raising the consciousness about what is creating resilience and life quality, will change the current health paradigm and health practice! \"', 'b7b0dd29e445bb334bde718788efb8f6', '', '', '77.241.134.68', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-132-b7b0dd29e4@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-4e448b8d72@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(324, '4', 'forum', 132, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1517990947, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I support this \"How\"\r\n- we look at evolution and how we have biologically adapted to our environment by scientifically understanding how the brain and body have a deep relationship and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease \r\n\r\n- By building a dynamic and beautiful community providing profound analytical and simple teachings to find the deepest root cause of all disruptions', '734b8017628838a8976f265798eaa86e', '', '', '77.241.134.68', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-132-734b801762@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-132-e3fad61a5f@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(325, '4', 'forum', 132, 'lars@mygind.dk', 1517991081, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I support this \"What\"\r\n\r\n- By Offering simple and profound mind body spirit connection through science, we welcome you to join our community under one umbrella to unite allopathic with holistic workers for awareness, learnings, clarity, credibility and scientific  research, including quantum, of true healing. Offering support for you and your clients, family and friends.  \r\n\r\n- Learn and Share from Master Trainers around the world', '02406b72d0b7f0560595fa8818b35555', '', '', '77.241.134.68', '', NULL, 'lars@mygind.dk-132-02406b72d0@www.meta-health.net', 'penny@changeahead.biz-0-dce89916d2@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(326, '2', 'forum', 321, 'Kora', 1518014598, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Thoughts about IMMA by Penny', '~~#00F:Here the letter as copy, inserted my comments in blue:~~\r\nI wish to thank all the board member who allowed me to speak, whilst I am fully aware that my talk was not on the agenda nor comes under the official policy of a board meeting, I felt that it was important for the board to be aware of the members feelings and feedback.  As we all have a shared passion regarding META-Health and the board are made up of leaders and decision makers. As according to Contently founder Shane Snow  \r\n“It\'s leaders\' jobs to respond to their teams\' concerns, take tough criticism to heart, and move everybody forward.”\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTherefore I wished to cover 3 topics.  Firstly addressing deep gratitude to Thorsten and Kora for their diligent and consistent work in building a wonderful wiki tiki mind body directory.  And being so detailed that they can make sure all the regulations are applied such as  The Corporate Code, the Bylaws, Standing Rules, Established Customs and parliamentary procedure and Rules of Order.\r\n\r\n1.	FEAR-this fear that is ruling IMMA is worse than death, as death has a resolution an ending.  This fear caused by over residing rules, regulations and dogma is causing paralysis.  This fear caused lack of trust and FEAR AND TRUST cannot co exist in an evolutionary organisation\r\n\r\n~~#00F:It is correct that fear and trust can not co-exist. This is why the aim to be more democratic and transparent and represented by many countries is being followed.\r\nIMMA as represented by the Board is not ruled by fear and not paralysed. Where paralysis is felt though, is in the communication from members and esp Master Trainers back to IMMA, as IMMA is communicating with her members. Whether this lack is based on fear or on something else is up for finding out. This lack has btw been an ongoing problem long before the sitting board was leading IMMA.~~\r\n\r\n2.	COMMUNICATION-fear of openly communicating thoughts and feelings and expansion are being constantly shut down. This is not about transparency or information, this is about developing relationships with each other and finding a way to move forwards and understand and accept each other.  In simple terms some of us are big picture and some of us are detailed.  This is excellent news, however not always a good mix when we are forced to become one or the other and cannot move or breathe without breaking a rule.   Number one rule to be broken is “keep thoughts to yourself” we need a community that we can share chaotic thoughts and our feelings and we will not feel trampled on.  New scientific research shows that out of chaos comes order.  \r\nTrusting to share our innovative ideas including our manuals, creating a safe place for us to meet, so if we do have fear or thoughts, that are not ready for the whole organisation to hear we can do this.  There is no place of safety or peace currently.  How can we communicate with the public when we have no website, I cannot advise people currently that I am part of a global organisation that has at best a minimal low quality website.\r\n\r\n~~#00F:“COMMUNICATION-fear of openly communicating thoughts and feelings and expansion are being constantly shut down.” \r\nShut down by whom? Please substantiate this claim.\r\nIn the members’ portal forum, which is a safe place, and even in FB community group which is not, everybody can express their feelings, ideas, feedback and complaints – and they are taken up and met seriously.\r\nHowever, as our communication styles vary, nobody can guarantee that another will not feel to “be trampled on”, because there are always sender and recipient who determine the message. What everybody’s goal can be, is to be professional and to substantiate their opinions.~~\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Regarding the public website, IMMA has asked all her members to help develop it with content and pictures. While IMMA’s sites and publications are constantly being worked with, we depend on cooperation – as for training lists, Trainer lists and Practitioners lists.\r\nAs per now, the site in German is our role model for the international site: see [http://www.meta-gesundheit.de|www.meta-gesundheit.de]~~\r\n\r\n3.	VALUES-GOALS-INSPIRATION\r\nUnderstanding that due to cross cultural differences, our values will be different, however if we cannot share at least 3 common values, we cannot have a mission statement that speaks to the world and touches the souls and hearts of the people.  Doctors too have hearts, hence why the Hippocrates oath is so valued.  Doctors and Scientists also speak in simplistic terms and perhaps we need to focus on who we are speaking to… if we look at different paradigm, working from the bottom up rather than the top\r\nW.L. Gore who is the founder of $3billion empire\r\nExcerpt taken from this article https://www.inc.com/chuck-blakeman/why-hr-policies-and-manuals-suffocate-great-people-and-stifle-innovation.html\r\nIn the emerging work world, you must create \"ownership\" by encouraging people to make decisions. Rules discourage decision-making. Guiding principles give people their brains back and encourage (even require) decision-making. How are you leading? By suffocating rules, or by guiding principles that create freedom and encourage participation?\r\nRules are the easy, lazy way out. W. L. Gore, founder of a $3billion company focused on a few guiding principles, said, \"\"The simplicity and order of an authoritarian organization make it an almost irresistible temptation. Yet it is counter to the principles of individual freedom and smothers the creative growth of man.\"\r\nAre simplicity and order your primary objectives for the workplace? Then just impose a mountain of rules and everyone will be sufficiently suffocated and will raise themselves to your lowest expectation of them. Are freedom, creativity, growth, participation and higher revenues your goal? Then dump the rules. Sit down for a day with everyone and decide what the very few guiding principles are that will make you a great organization and take you to the next level.\r\n           This is the main reason I believe we are being paralysed.  Lau Tzu “If you not change direction, you may end up where you are heading” \r\n\r\nThis is why we need to stop living in the old paradigm of business, as are we not teaching and sharing that health is not what we have been taught, how can we be authentic when our organisation is being run in a very old paradigm. \r\n \r\n~~#00F:Yes, this is what we are doing in getting to consent in discussions and the organisation is not being run in an old paradigm. There have been so many changes towards sharing, broad representation and new ideas, and everybody was and is invited.\r\nHowever, perhaps you haven’t been aware that IMMA faced major challenges and ties during the last 2 years, which didn’t come from the inside but from the outside: Thorsten can explain that to those who need proof for to be able to trust. Only inside that frame IMMA was able to move. Now, since a couple days, we eventually succeeded and IMMA is again accepted as a legal organization by the authorities.~~\r\n\r\nPROPOSAL\r\nI asked in the meeting for no come back,  no disucussion or debate, merely to sit in what I had said and to feedback to myelf, and all of the master trainers, board members with one inspiration and positive strategy to move forwards.  I await with curiousity and patience \r\nIf all 28 of us do this, there is a possibility to create a movement and greater things will come.  However if we keep on this path I fear for the heart and commitment of the members.\r\nI propose that all master trainers meet in approx. 2 weeks time I have created a doodle poll for everyone to say when best times are.  So that we can talk and share our inspirations and aspirations, our dreams and passions of how to create a new organisation of health, wealth and along with that trust and leaders.  Then people will follow us because they will understand our ‘why!’ and be curious and excited as we all once were when we started this revolutionary journey\r\nLets meet to share our visions and truly aspire to live our lives through our passions, work and teachings.\r\nProposal\r\nValues, review of each values\r\nWhere are we going? \r\nVisions \r\nStrategy\r\nPersonally I love Mr Gore and his wonderful organisation that he calls a Lattice…intrigued?  Then join us to move forward\r\nHere is the link for doodle poll please advise if you wish to attend The time is in GMT UK TIME\r\nR.S.V.P. if you cannot please let us start communication and start creating again\r\nLove to you ALL  Please click on the link below and let us join together \r\nThis meeting may not be for you, if you do not wish to create expansion and communication in IMMA this is for inspiration and mind mapping new strategies. This is NOT about Rules and Regulations.  This is about creating open air and principles to excite our bone marrow, to feel our souls sing and become the true leaders that we all are… in order for us to step into our leadership, then we will have followers.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttps://doodle.com/poll/d25ht7znq2f8zqus\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Not 28 but 400+ members I’d like to come together. Among the Master Trainers, many have hardly ever shown engagement for the community beyond their own trainings, so they are welcome to join but all others will equally be encouraged to.\r\nWe welcome new strategies and creations, and we want to develop them together in consent – not by ONE leader. That’s something new what we all can learn. For that, the will to communicate and to listen on ALL sides is needed.\r\nSo the invitation should not be exclusively for Master Trainers in my book, but to all who are willing to engage.~~', '50d1d621668f6462d3b7f0a184657328', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-321-50d1d62166@www.meta-health.net', 'Thorsten-0-7c7fef41dc@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(327, '14', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518131093, 60, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', '~~#F00:Discussion copied from Facebook thread in \"META-Health Community\" group on monday feb 5, 2018, after Board meeting on feb 4~~\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__ Social cooperation is key for us humans to solve problems and to manage our fears. That\'s what we as professionals know! This is where each of us comes in.\r\n\r\nThe reason for me opening this thread is on behalf of the Board of Directors:\r\nWe have heard yesterday that \"all (in the META-Health Community) are in fear and paralysed\" (about IMMA, the board, the wiki...??).\r\n\r\nFear can best be addressed when you get the support you need to confront it, to look at it in daylight.\r\n\r\nPlease help us understand what YOUR fears regarding IMMA are about, so that we can look at them and address them together and be the best supporting and inspiring community we can be! As soon as there is time, we want to schedule a meeting for members: to answer questions, chunk down procedures and collect more options. Goal is to calm down, get ready to communicate in the right transparent channels, end rumours and to go beyond exspectations. Thank you for reading and for all your outstanding work!', '5881977bd8b6ce6a07d816521e3d6997', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-0-27084b40bd@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(328, '14', 'forum', 327, 'Kora', 1518131606, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', '__Tron Enger__ \"All\" is not correct. I am not in fear re IMMA.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nThanks Tron. Regarding the META-Health community and communication, what or where would you feel inspired or willing to engage, so that your presence is felt (I\'m referring to Jo\'s comment)?\r\n\r\n__Penny Croal__\r\n Tron Enger nor was that the actual quote Tron\r\nHowever may I ask you, will you be attending our next Master trainer meeting?\r\nWhat is stopping you from collaborating at the moment?\r\n\r\n__Tron Enger__\r\n I have told Kwesi Anan Odum that i intend to participate.\r\nI have a private reason for not collaborating.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nThanks for answering Tron.\r\n\r\n__Penny Croal__\r\nGreat Tron, would welcome you to fill in doodle poll to advise which dates are convenient for you.', '418701494039f77d212654ae1582e3c4', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-327-4187014940@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-27084b40bd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(329, '14', 'forum', 327, 'Kora', 1518131750, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', '__Jo Trewartha__ \r\nWell that made everyone go quiet Kora... or perhaps they didn’t read it as a longer post.\r\n\r\nI can only speak for myself and was not aware of the specific rumour you mention but do often pick up of dissatisfaction from others...\r\n\r\nI don’t think I personally have an IMMA fear ... sometimes I have felt it might be easier to work independently of the community/group. My gripes would all be around communication.\r\n\r\nAlso I am not moaning I am commenting because I have been asked \r\n\r\nMy subjective experience:\r\n\r\n1) Emails that have been important to me have been ignored on a few occasions\r\n2) There’s not much “community” in this community compared to some other modalities I’m trained in\r\neg the same names show up here again and again - many of the Masters and board have no presence here ~ not sure what they are up to but the experienced members do have opportunity here to develop newbies which does then extend out extrinsically, other groups are flourishing in comparison\r\n3) I have had issues with the log in to the wiki ... can get frustrating ... again not many people are commenting in there - is it same for them re logging in?\r\n4) Group fragmentation led and possible fear (!) from Trainers into the community... fear that other people are going to nick your ideas rather than open sharing ...\r\n5) Goalposts changing regarding standards\r\n\r\nDo people need to calm down or is there apathy?\r\n\r\nI love META-Health but don’t feel proud to be an IMMA member \r\n\r\nReally pleased that reflection is happening - thanks for posting Kora \r\n\r\nLook forward to seeing other comments as I have shared .... \r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nThank you for commenting and bringing things up, Jo - I hope others follow your example.\r\nYet I like to comment or ask deeper on some points, like:\r\n\r\n1) if we look on the emails that were not answered: have you been aware that emails to @meta-health.org addresses were not received since the server crash in april 2017? This was made public in the member notifications and on FB. But even Master Trainers often still use unvalid email addresses which then go to nirvana.\r\nHowever, everyone can read both on the IMMA website www.meta-health.info and here in this group in a sticky note above, where emails can be sent to so they are received and answered quickly.\r\nPlus we are monitoring inquiries on the IMMA FB page and in this group, forwarding them to the right recipient...\r\n\r\n2) this is correct, and FB is not the presence of the community as many are not active there. MTs and Board members have seldom time for this, it is an unpaid job.\r\nWhen introducing the members\' portal www.meta-health.net on the Conference in Mumbai, we intended to provide and develop a powerful place for professional exchange, mutual support and internal transparency, where all relevant data can be accessed in one place and is safe. Every member gets access, but to use it of course is up to them.\r\nMeanwhile, Facebook is a place to attract new people.\r\nIdeas to inspire more people to share are very welcome :-)\r\n\r\n3) you can save your login in your browser so don\'t have to bother?\r\nSecurity of the programme unvalidates you on the third false login attempt, then you must be revalidated manually. This is to keep the site free from robots and viagra.\r\n\r\n4) this might be a very valid point - how could it be addressed?\r\n\r\n5) The standards we have now are basically the same as before, but clarified as to how to assess them. This means for some Trainers a lowering and for others an elevation...\r\n\r\nThank you again, and I hope my comments are of some help, too, and don\'t intimidate :-) Love, Kora', 'd7acc69d62fa9f2ef40ea4ab9ec14f9b', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-327-dc40942302@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-27084b40bd@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(330, '14', 'forum', 327, 'Kora', 1518132088, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', '__Falguni Mather__ \r\nI wouldn’t say fear but perhaps confusion about the trainers and who is doing what. To be honest I tend to not completely engage (something I’m working on changing!) so am not aware of dissonance within the community.\r\n\r\nIn my experience I usually get extremely prompt replies to emails. Access to the material online (Wiki) works very well.\r\n\r\nIt was confusing when the app (that we paid quite a lot of money for) was discontinued and we had to access the Wiki instead.\r\n\r\nThe online forum looks great but I don’t see a lot of engagement on there.\r\n\r\nGenerally seems like a lot of change going on with guidelines slowly but surely being put into place; I feel satisfied at the standards and training content levels that have been established. Feels like waiting for the dust to settle but not sure what is being stirred up!\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nInfo regarding the app: this and the whole server and old website were completely infected and destroyed last april, this is also why old email addreses to @meta-health.org do not work. So we had to replace everything, and informed about that in notifications. As the wiki was yet in preparation, the material could be accessed again soon, but in the new style as members\' portal. Work with the website is going on... and several attempts have been made to be in contact with all Master Trainers.', 'bcec76f11f7ae400eff6b5de288edb21', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-327-bcec76f11f@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-27084b40bd@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(331, '14', 'forum', 327, 'Kora', 1518132711, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', 'Penny sent this letter to the Board on feb 06, to summarize the feelings she shared at the Board meeting\r\nPenny explicitly asked us to share it even with the Master Trainers on IMMA\'s forum:', '013574a2ca032ecf72a1cb570fda88d1', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-327-a992a72b78@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-27084b40bd@www.meta-health.net', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n');
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(332, '14', 'forum', 327, 'Kora', 1518133241, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA: fear & feedback, transferred FB thread 2018-02-05', '~~#00F:Kora\'s personal reply~~ to Penny\'s letter:\r\n~~#00F:Reply in blue~~\r\n\r\nI wish to thank all the board member who allowed me to speak, whilst I am fully aware that my talk was not on the agenda nor comes under the official policy of a board meeting, I felt that it was important for the board to be aware of the members feelings and feedback.  As we all have a shared passion regarding META-Health and the board are made up of leaders and decision makers. As according to Contently founder Shane Snow  \r\n“It\'s leaders\' jobs to respond to their teams\' concerns, take tough criticism to heart, and move everybody forward.”\r\n\r\nTherefore I wished to cover 3 topics.  Firstly addressing deep gratitude to Thorsten and Kora for their diligent and consistent work in building a wonderful wiki tiki mind body directory.  And being so detailed that they can make sure all the regulations are applied such as  The Corporate Code, the Bylaws, Standing Rules, Established Customs and parliamentary procedure and Rules of Order.\r\n\r\n1.	FEAR-this fear that is ruling IMMA is worse than death, as death has a resolution an ending.  This fear caused by over residing rules, regulations and dogma is causing paralysis.  This fear caused lack of trust and FEAR AND TRUST cannot co exist in an evolutionary organisation\r\n\r\n~~#00F:It is correct that fear and trust can not co-exist. This is why the aim to be more democratic and transparent and represented by many countries is being followed.\r\nIMMA as represented by the Board is not ruled by fear and not paralysed. Where paralysis is felt though, is in the communication from members and esp Master Trainers back to IMMA, as IMMA is communicating with her members. Whether this lack is based on fear or on something else is up for finding out. This lack has btw been an ongoing problem long before the sitting board was leading IMMA.~~\r\n\r\n2.	COMMUNICATION-fear of openly communicating thoughts and feelings and expansion are being constantly shut down. This is not about transparency or information, this is about developing relationships with each other and finding a way to move forwards and understand and accept each other.  In simple terms some of us are big picture and some of us are detailed.  This is excellent news, however not always a good mix when we are forced to become one or the other and cannot move or breathe without breaking a rule.   Number one rule to be broken is “keep thoughts to yourself” we need a community that we can share chaotic thoughts and our feelings and we will not feel trampled on.  New scientific research shows that out of chaos comes order.  \r\nTrusting to share our innovative ideas including our manuals, creating a safe place for us to meet, so if we do have fear or thoughts, that are not ready for the whole organisation to hear we can do this.  There is no place of safety or peace currently.  How can we communicate with the public when we have no website, I cannot advise people currently that I am part of a global organisation that has at best a minimal low quality website.\r\n\r\n~~#00F:“COMMUNICATION-fear of openly communicating thoughts and feelings and expansion are being constantly shut down.” \r\nShut down by whom? Please substantiate this claim by quotes.~~\r\n~~#00F:\r\nIn the members’ portal forum, which is a safe place, and even in FB community group which is not, everybody can express their feelings, ideas, feedback and complaints – and they are taken up and met seriously.\r\nHowever, as our communication styles vary, nobody can guarantee that another will not feel to “be trampled on”, because there are always sender and recipient who determine the message. What everybody’s goal can be, is to be professional and to substantiate their opinions.~~\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Regarding the public website, IMMA has asked all her members to help develop it with content and pictures, after the old server was infected beyond repair and had to be replaced. \r\nWhile IMMA’s sites and publications are constantly being worked with, we depend on cooperation – as for training lists, Trainer lists and Practitioners lists.\r\nAs per now, the site in German is our role model for the international site, it contains all desired information and has a “lighter” style: see www.meta-gesundheit.de~~\r\n\r\n3.	VALUES-GOALS-INSPIRATION\r\nUnderstanding that due to cross cultural differences, our values will be different, however if we cannot share at least 3 common values, we cannot have a mission statement that speaks to the world and touches the souls and hearts of the people.  Doctors too have hearts, hence why the Hippocrates oath is so valued.  Doctors and Scientists also speak in simplistic terms and perhaps we need to focus on who we are speaking to… if we look at different paradigm, working from the bottom up rather than the top\r\nW.L. Gore who is the founder of $3billion empire\r\nExcerpt taken from this article https://www.inc.com/chuck-blakeman/why-hr-policies-and-manuals-suffocate-great-people-and-stifle-innovation.html\r\nIn the emerging work world, you must create \"ownership\" by encouraging people to make decisions. Rules discourage decision-making. Guiding principles give people their brains back and encourage (even require) decision-making. How are you leading? By suffocating rules, or by guiding principles that create freedom and encourage participation?\r\nRules are the easy, lazy way out. W. L. Gore, founder of a $3billion company focused on a few guiding principles, said, \"\"The simplicity and order of an authoritarian organization make it an almost irresistible temptation. Yet it is counter to the principles of individual freedom and smothers the creative growth of man.\"\r\nAre simplicity and order your primary objectives for the workplace? Then just impose a mountain of rules and everyone will be sufficiently suffocated and will raise themselves to your lowest expectation of them. Are freedom, creativity, growth, participation and higher revenues your goal? Then dump the rules. Sit down for a day with everyone and decide what the very few guiding principles are that will make you a great organization and take you to the next level.\r\n           This is the main reason I believe we are being paralysed.  Lau Tzu “If you not change direction, you may end up where you are heading” \r\n\r\nThis is why we need to stop living in the old paradigm of business, as are we not teaching and sharing that health is not what we have been taught, how can we be authentic when our organisation is being run in a very old paradigm.  \r\n\r\n~~#00F:Yes, this is what we are already doing in getting to consent in discussions, so the organisation is not being run in an old paradigm. There have been so many changes towards sharing, broad representation and new ideas, and everybody was and is invited.\r\nHowever, perhaps you haven’t been aware that IMMA faced major challenges and ties during the last 2 years, which didn’t come from the inside but from the outside: Thorsten can explain that to those who need proof for to be able to trust. \r\nOnly inside that frame IMMA was able to move. Now, since a couple of days, we eventually succeeded after great efforts and determined leadership, so that IMMA is again in good standing as a legal organization by the authorities.\r\nIn principle, we are now free to restructure, complete or replace the old organization by one that may attend more to the desires of individuals like Trainers who want to focus on marketing and commercialization, if the values and vision of a sharing community do not appeal to the majority.~~\r\n\r\nPROPOSAL\r\nI asked in the meeting for no come back,  no disucussion or debate, merely to sit in what I had said and to feedback to myelf, and all of the master trainers, board members with one inspiration and positive strategy to move forwards.  I await with curiousity and patience \r\nIf all 28 of us do this, there is a possibility to create a movement and greater things will come.  However if we keep on this path I fear for the heart and commitment of the members.\r\nI propose that all master trainers meet in approx. 2 weeks time I have created a doodle poll for everyone to say when best times are.  So that we can talk and share our inspirations and aspirations, our dreams and passions of how to create a new organisation of health, wealth and along with that trust and leaders.  Then people will follow us because they will understand our ‘why!’ and be curious and excited as we all once were when we started this revolutionary journey\r\nLets meet to share our visions and truly aspire to live our lives through our passions, work and teachings.\r\nProposal\r\nValues, review of each values\r\nWhere are we going? \r\nVisions \r\nStrategy\r\nPersonally I love Mr Gore and his wonderful organisation that he calls a Lattice…intrigued?  Then join us to move forward\r\nHere is the link for doodle poll please advise if you wish to attend The time is in GMT UK TIME\r\nR.S.V.P. if you cannot please let us start communication and start creating again\r\nLove to you ALL  Please click on the link below and let us join together \r\nThis meeting may not be for you, if you do not wish to create expansion and communication in IMMA this is for inspiration and mind mapping new strategies. This is NOT about Rules and Regulations.  This is about creating open air and principles to excite our bone marrow, to feel our souls sing and become the true leaders that we all are… in order for us to step into our leadership, then we will have followers.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttps://doodle.com/poll/d25ht7znq2f8zqus\r\n\r\n~~#00F:Not 28 but 400+ members I’d like to come together. Among the Master Trainers, many have hardly ever shown engagement for the community beyond their own trainings, so they are welcome to join but all others should equally be encouraged to.\r\nWe welcome new strategies and creations, and we want to develop them together in consent – not by ONE leader. That’s something new what we all can learn. For that, the will to communicate and to listen on ALL sides is needed.\r\nSo in my book the meeting should be not exclusively for Master Trainers, but for all members who like to engage.~~', '374a6977758cdc39c5cae751a3b224df', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-327-374a697775@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-327-a992a72b78@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(333, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1518199578, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'Hi Lars,\r\n I explained in my post above:\r\n\"I question \"sharing the scientific understanding of nature\'s path\", because basically, every nature science shares it\'s understanding, but this is not describing what we do (and we don\'t teach nature science). Besides that, \"nature\'s path\" implies to me living and dying, eating and being eaten. Although this may belong to our understanding as well, it is not what META-Health is about to me. \" So I find it does not clear enough define META-Health, or could even be misleading the thoughts of the reader..\r\n\r\nEqually, I\'d like you to take the other shared viewpoints into account, or to share why you don\'t see my argument there as relevant. Thanks!', '0b1b19e4b7befe03bc78f3dac1a42916', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-0b1b19e4b7@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-132-601c1edd17@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(334, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1518200712, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'I have problems with the logic or structure of this part: \r\n\"we look at evolution ... by scientifically understanding ... and how we currently call this process illness and dis-ease \"\r\n*Evolution is not equal to disease, but the process of evolution might include disease\r\n*We look by understanding? Rather the other way around, one understands by looking?\r\n*The whole sentence is very long and hard to directly get it\'s meaning.\r\n\r\nYet, there are proposals that provide a clearer \"how\" in only one sentence. What could be appropriate, taking shortness and clarity into account?', 'eb1f1c322c2c4046890bc0991a5abc1b', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-eb1f1c322c@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-132-734b801762@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(335, '4', 'forum', 132, 'Kora', 1518201148, 0, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Re: IMMA MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT', 'In the \"what\", the reader expects that we name IMMA\'s actions and value provided specifically. A call-to-action to learn from Master Trainers is not what IMMA provides?', 'ce84bfd22f182ffff897d2a462b78d6b', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-132-ce84bfd22f@www.meta-health.net', 'lars@mygind.dk-132-02406b72d0@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(336, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518271145, 101, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Sleep apnea', 'Transferred from Facebook post by __Jan Lindberg__:\r\n\r\nWhat is the official IMMA / META-Health explanation to sleep anea and the conflict theme(s) behind?\r\n\r\nI have recently been \"diagnosed\" with sleep apnea (I have had it my whole life, actually, pretty much since I was born, but it is only recently I was checked for this). I first found out after experiencing four severe cases of suffocation during my sleep (I would wake up suddenly, feeling I am being choked and gasping for my breath). In all cases I also experienced either mild or severe reflux / heartburn at the same time, and the last time it happened I would even wake up, feeling like I am being choke (in my own saliva (overproduction)) and then literally throw up. I identified the four cases as being in the regeration phase, specifically in the peak of regeneration. The first time was before I met with the woman that I am now forming a relationship with for the first time. The second time was after my first meeting with her. The third time was during the holidays which I spend with her. The 4th time was after I came back home to Denmark again after spending the holidays with her. So there\'s clearly a pattern there...\r\n\r\nAfter all this I was checked for sleep apnea and I had the diagnosis mild sleep apnea. Which means I am know sleeping with a machine that gives me oxygen and helps me breath during my sleep.\r\n\r\nAs mentioned, then I have had sleep apnea pretty much since I was born (since I was very little my mom experienced long breaks from breathing during my sleep, and I have been snoring my whole life more or less). I don\'t know if it is possibly connected to me almost being strangled to death by own umbilical cord when I was born, but in any case... As for the reflux/heartburn (stomach pains at night, with overproduction of saliva, cramps in the upper stomach/lower chest area), then I have experienced this on and off for some years (for a period I thought I had it under control, but then it started again). Some years ago I had some talks with Susanne Billander about it, and with her I identified an underlying pattern around love, money, nurture and support.\r\n\r\nBut it just doesn\'t add up. Pharynx/mouth/throat (the main organ affected during sleep apnea) is related to a conflict of not being able to get something or to get rid of something (spit it out) (to get/swallow/spit something or someone in or out), or the inability to salivate. When it comes to the tonsils (I have very big tonsils), then the conflict theme is more or less the same (not being able to swallow/spit something or someone in or out). And even when it comes to the oesophagus (gullet or mucosa) (the main organ affected in my case of reflux/heartburn), then yet again the conflict theme is more or less the same (not being able to swallow/spit something or someone in or out, inability to swallow something (accept something)). This conflict theme just doesn\'t resonate with me at all. Maybe I have a blind angle on this and there\'s something I am missing, yet it is mainly the theme of love, money, nurture and support that is activated and resonates here. I even heard someone explain that from a META-Health point of view sleep apnea is related to the cardiac muscle (myocardium) and a \"being overwhelmed\" conflict, but this doesn\'t resonate either.\r\n\r\nThe interesting thing is that even in the short time (just a few weeks) that I have been sleeping with the machine that gives me extra oxygen and helps me to breath more normal during sleep (when I have my \"breaks\" (and there are a lot of them, some of them around 1minute30 seconds to 2minutes)), then I already started to feel a change in my body. In my throat, in my chest, and in my stomach it feels differently (in the \"good\" way) with the extra air. Is it just that simple that extra breath of fresh air, so to speak, can make such a big difference? I mean, breathing is essential to all of us, and clearly it has an affect on all of our body and all the organs. Could the \"not being able to swallow/spit something or someone in or out\" actually be related to air/breathing (or even life, figuratively speaking)? Not being able to get the air/breath in and out? With that also being the link to the theme around love, money, nurture and support?\r\n\r\nWith that said - and just being my own experience of it and way of seeing it - then I am still curious what the official META-Health/IMMA explanation is to sleep apnea.', 'a1e6720fa3f9219e18d2da835cf286f5', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-0-d73ba6ca9d@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(337, '6', 'forum', 336, 'Kora', 1518273816, 1, NULL, '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Re: Sleep anpea', 'Thanks for sharing, Jan!\r\n\r\nThere is ovviously a pattern of several organ/mind reactions triggering each other.\r\nPhysically, The air you get via the machine is to hold your airways free, because in snoring, the relaxed airway walls \"collapse\" and \"obstruct\" the airflow, which can be augmented by your enlarged tonsils.\r\n\r\nThe ((Respiratory - Bronchial Mucosa and Muscle|trachea and bronchial wall)) consist mainly of ((Musculoskeletal - Connective Tissue|connective tissue)) which is kept open by cartilage rings and some ((Organ Walls - Smooth Muscle Layer|smooth muscle)). If there would be self-devaluation regarding breathing or your \"breathing space\" going on, the tissue would be weakened, or it\'s structure altered in chronic processes.\r\nWhen you experienced or associated \"strangulation\" by your umbilical cord, this may have been the initial trauma leading to these self-devaluations.\r\nOf course, when you have this as a \"weak spot\", you will be prone to connect it to other triggers, too, like swallowing, and we could speak of \"life energy chunks\".\r\n\r\nFor the ((Digestive - Tonsils|tonsils)), they consist of 2 tissue and conflict types: it is their function to check the ingoing \"chunks\" for their value (BS level), and they are also lymphatic and connected to self-definition and making choices on the individual (CM) level. Enlarged tonsils usually are a residual state after chronic activations in your youth.\r\n\r\nFor the reflux you experienced simultaneously, of course it\'s felt in the ((Digestive - Esophagus (Gullet) Overview|esophagus)) which reacts with mucus production, but the origin may be in the ((Digestive - Esophagus - Muscle layer|LES)) or cardiac sphincter, which opens when stomach issues are in stress phase or Healing Peak. Stomach issues can be ((Digestive - Stomach - Mucosa (Fundus and Great Curvature)|BS level)) (need to break down a chunk) or ((Digestive - Stomach - Mucosa (Lesser Curvature and Pylorus)|CC level)) (territorial/social anger or identity/belonging issue).\r\nThese may be key connected to your partner/girlfriend, meaning you resolve and process former conflicts leading to Healing Peaks in the night.', '5c15c115290fd3705e1746f0e8d4bf20', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-336-5c15c11529@www.meta-health.net', 'Kora-0-d73ba6ca9d@www.meta-health.net', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(338, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518370413, 40, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Read META-Healthy Life Online Magazine: Hormones, Habits, Lifestyle', '[http://meta-healthy.life|META-Healthy Life] online magazine is published every other month with different thematic emphasis. It is filled with articles and videos created by IMMA members. \r\nAs a powerful way to spread META-Health, everyone is invited to share the whole magazine and specific articles in your own networks!\r\nWhen you have own pieces you want to be published, please contact news@meta-health.net\r\n\r\nThis is the first issue [https://www.meta-healthy.life/hormones-habits-lifestyle/]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/the-ropedancer-and-the-temptation/|The Ropedancer and the Temptation]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/sun-charged-water/|Sun-charged Water]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/healing-lymphoma-naturally-and-finding-my-voice/|Healing Lymphoma Naturally and finding my Voice!]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/fluorescing-light-and-the-path-to-be-me/|Fluorescing Light and the Path to be Me]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/how-simple-changes-saved-me-from-anxiety/|How Simple Changes saved me from Anxiety]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/personality-sits-in-the-gut/|Personality sits in the Gut!]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/fermentation-transformation-into-superfood/|Fermentation – the Transformation into Superfood]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/new-research-supports-holobiont-concept/|New research supports holobiont concept]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/my-journey-from-hypothyroidism-to-euthyroidism/|My Journey from Hypothyroidism to Euthyroidism]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/hashimotos-thyroiditis-a-new-path-of-learning-and-discovery/|Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis – A New Path of Learning and Discovery]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/the-conflict-which-was-a-solution/|The conflict which was a solution]', '82bfadefaa4875bb1f8e2ab56bfa0200', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-82bfadefaa@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(339, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518371186, 44, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Read META-Healthy Life Online Magazine: Digestion, Energy and your Potential', '[https://www.meta-healthy.life|META-Healthy Life] online magazine is published every other month with different thematic emphasis. It is filled with articles and videos created by IMMA members.\r\nAs a powerful way to spread META-Health, everyone is invited to share the whole magazine and specific articles in your own networks!\r\nWhen you have own pieces you want to be published, please contact news@meta-health.net \r\n\r\nThe second issue is about [https://www.meta-healthy.life/digestion-energy-and-your-potential/|Digestion, Energy and your Potential]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/digestion-therapists-share-case-experiences/|Digestion – Therapists share case experiences]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/afraid-to-fart-and-the-fine-art-of-following-through/|Afraid to Fart – and the Fine Art of Following Through]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/autism-the-gut-brain-immune-axis/|Autism & the Gut-Brain-Immune-Axis]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/diabetes-sweetness-resistance/|Diabetes, Sweetness and Resistance]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/homemade-probiotics-kombucha/|Probiotics & their Health Benefits: Kombucha!]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/increase-your-effectiveness-with-meta-health-by-finding-specific-events/|Increase Your Effectiveness with META Health by Finding Specific Events]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/the-path-of-abundance-through-service/|The Path of Abundance through Service]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/me-meditation-detox-for-mind-emotion/|ME-meditation: Detox for Mind & Emotion]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/the-metabolic-syndrome/|The Metabolic Syndrome]\r\n*[https://www.meta-healthy.life/mastering-healing-consciousness/|Mastering Healing Consciousness]', 'ac3d089a4bd5cd0585a6157afd671c3a', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-ac3d089a4b@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(340, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518372184, 39, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'What is fear, and how do you handle it?', 'Transferred Facebook thread:\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__ \r\nCurious: how do you as META-Health professionals handle fear (with clients and with yourself)? Which approaches and tools do you use, and do they work in your experience?\r\n\r\n__Jette Hastrup__ \r\nI use NLP, Time Line, Matrix Reimprinting, Matrix Birth Reimprinting. And it helps the client. The most importen is rapport \r\n\r\n__Jo Trewartha__\r\n I use PSYCH-K stress release process which takes 5 mins max whatever the issue and completely appears to calm me/others right down. I use Energy Alignment Method to generically clear emotions such as fear from the field again usually done very quickly and has a manifestation aspect too for what you want to feel instead. I think The Balance Procedure is also good as are Bach Remedies. Trained in EFT and Matrix too which I also love - clients don’t tend to book in for these with me so not using much these days - PTT the draw a picture version is also really nice - and I think the Ace Flow Plus process Richard Flook uses is powerful not played with that so much yet!\r\n\r\nHave used parts Integration too but find it unnecessarily long.\r\n\r\nYes I believe they all work.\r\n\r\n... and what about you Kora how do you address fear? \r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nI find grounding essential, and to let them (or me) feel the available resources to meet the expected danger, including rapport. Vagotonic breathing together is very useful (looooong exhales, and just let them fill back up by themselves through nose and skin). That\'s what I do first. Then we may look for the root cause and how to transform it, when the client is ready to do that. We may use tapping or regression or other processes, depending on what presents itself.\r\nOh yes, and essential oils work very well to support me, too, like the fragrance of spruce which I love. Then, movement esp walking and running are powerful transformators for brain stuff. Sunlight as well.\r\n\r\n__Falguni Mather__\r\n Depending on level of fear definitely grounding, anchoring, centring - through visualisation and even physically feeling body on chair/feet on floor.\r\nEFT to find the roots of fear and what is it doing /keeping us from doing. With clients I do discuss how all emotions are necessary, including fear (which helps keep you safe), and when it becomes limiting we need to see what’s going on.\r\n\r\n__Lisbeth Lundgaard Metafys__\r\nTo me there are a few steps\r\n1: Recognizing the fear, sometimes it is obvious and sometimes they are hiding. Making our actions fear based without us being able to see it.\r\n2: Taking responsibility for ones part in the letting go. To me this is really important because it empowers ourselves and can be an important step in seeing that we are our own greatest healer.\r\n3: Deciding to make a shift - to let go of limiting beliefs and to step into a new way of being.\r\n4: For the energy releasing process I use different modalities good ones are mentioned in comments above - I mainly use Tapping\r\n\r\n__John Rhodes__\r\nI always used to use som form of regression either with TFT or directly in hypnosis. Lately I tend to favor BWRT because it’s so fast!\r\n\r\n__Penny Croal__\r\n There are so many different types of FEAR that sometimes people are not even aware that they are living in the FEAR of the FEAR... it is natural for us as animals to have fear and depending on who we are, we can look it as a driver or a trapper. Bringing in safety elements is paramount as the starter...after that there are many ways to address each individual\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nI like to illustrate what Penny said with what we can distinguish in META-Health brain activation:\r\n\r\n- in fear that gives us power to get back into safety, we might shit in our pants but we still move, and we have a direction. This usually doesn\'t leave us stuck in fear afterwards, but rather alert for potential dangers.\r\n\r\n- Fear like in anxiety is different - esp the \"fear for the fear\" is based in the \"frontal relays\" meaning \"no way to hide\" and \"I can\'t do anything about it\", reflected mostly in the ((Endocrine -Thyroid - Archaic Excretory Ducts|thyroid \"ducts\")) and the tissue derived from the ((Respiratory - Branchial Arches Pharyngeal Ducts|pharyngeal arches)) which are essential for social communication. For example the muscles protecting hearing do stem from the pharyngeal arches, as well as parts of the larynx, and even the aorta. When we stay in anxiety and feel paralysed by fear and fearful thinking, we are predisposed for many other conflicts, and we can\'t listen nor communicate clearly. \r\n\r\n- A third one is in the \"paranoid\" constellation where one activates both \"can\'t control but they\'re after me\" and \"can\'t escape\".\r\n\r\nEspecially these cortex constellations we often need to disrupt, as they are neither natural nor biological anymore.\r\nA paralysis only makes sense as long as one is in acute life danger when one moves or makes sound.\r\nBiologist Stephen Porges found out that the freeze is a vagal response, and he termed 3 neural ways to deal with stress:\r\n- the sympathetic fight/flight,\r\n- the (old) vagal freeze,\r\n- and the (new) vagal social cooperation we know in mammals.\r\n\r\nSo our job is, first to find out how to calm down so much as to be able to ask for help. Then, the more specific we find out about the triggers and their background, the better we can help or be helped.\r\nWhen an individual however refuses to be helped for whatever reason, we sometimes can\'t do other than leave them - but usually these don\'t show up as our clients.\r\n\r\n__Gudrun Storesund__\r\n I use Arttherapy and affirmations when the fear is recognized. Takes time but gives a safe journey \r\n\r\n__Vera Novak__\r\nMake friends with it and make sure it knows that I am not trying to destroy it but to integrate it.\r\n\r\n__Gaylene Hansen__\r\n Firstly \'asking\' why I or client is fearful - acknowledging so I / we become aware of it and what may be behind it - curiosity of what I / we need to learn rather than fear. For me - I use 5min Body Talk process as maintenance each day (full 20 min process less frequently) + trace 10 of 14 meridians (still have to learn the other 4). Deep breathing / heartmath breathing / some Qi Gong / Yoga + EFT / Matrix. Lately learning to use Richard Flook\'s ace-flow process and combine it with EFT / Matrix - powerful I am discovering. Also some essential oils and homeopathy. And yes I find them very helpful', '35ac7c6e2c25137faf30795bfcd41b1b', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-0-06f5acddf7@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(341, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518372726, 31, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Raynaud syndrome', 'Transferred Facebook thread:\r\n\r\n__Gudrun Storesund__\r\nI wonder if anyone could tell me about Reynaud syndrome (blue/white fingers/toes) and Metahealth? What feelings /emotions do we talk about ?\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\n((Musculoskeletal - Periosteum (Visceral Fascia)|Periosteum)) reaction - the circulation is reduced in those parts: quote from the wiki: \r\n\"Theme\r\n1. Pain, either physical or emotionally associated, brutal separation or contact. Even detachment/separation from parts of self.\r\n2. Attack against the bone, protection of the bone\r\n\r\nEmotions, Thoughts\r\nIndignation caused by a pain that we inflicted on somebody or that we suffered ourselves.\r\nThat hit my shin!\r\nThis pain goes down to the bones.\r\nI´m hurt!\r\nHow can they do that to me!\r\n\r\nMETA-Meaning\r\nNow, I will accept and let go of the hurt.\r\nI can forgive myself and the others for this. \"\r\n\r\n__Gudrun Storesund__\r\n Wow,Thank you Kora. I felt that one....\r\n\r\n__Craig Weiner DC__\r\n I am not understanding the connection between the periosteum bone layer and Reynauds which is a neurovascular disorder Kora...\r\n\r\n__Gaylene Hansen__\r\n Raynauds - Yes periosteum - Cerebral Cortex plus Arteries - Reduction of self worth in that one is unable to reach, retain, do something or keep one’s composure (Cerebral Medulla). Periosteum and arteries are both innervated from sympathetic trunks. In conflict activity of a severe, brutal, harsh separation conflict the capillaries become narrow causing constriction of blood circulation. So affected areas turn white in intense conflict.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nLocal circulation is influenced by the periosteum. \"It is the most highly vascularized substratum of the periosteum and is a significant contributor to the blood supply of bone and even skeletal muscle.\" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2826636/]\r\n\r\n__Gaylene Hansen__\r\n Recently became aware from Richard Flook, of the large area the Periosteum control centre has in our cerebral cortex - When we consider the outer covering of our bones (periosteum) and if laid out flat, the surface area is huge so needs a large area in brain too- (also includes the sense of Proprioception)', '2d21bbf2f6ab0de943512217397426ac', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-2d21bbf2f6@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(342, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518378650, 24, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Achilles tendon', 'Transferred from Facebook group:\r\n\r\n__Asmaa Aboulfotouh__\r\ncan you help and tell me what are the causes behind Achilles tendon or calcaneal tendon, or tendo calcaneus ?\r\nThanks in advance\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nAchilles tendon is for jumping, getting started, being fast. If it is weakened, there is a self-devaluation regarding this going on. If it is calcified, there have been several occasions of conflict and resolution.\r\n\r\n__Lisbeth Lundgaard Metafys__\r\n Yes I agree. To add there is an awareness about finally moving away from something that has been holding you back, and the regeneration symptoms can sometimes trigger you back into the stress fase, because your pain prevents you from moving forward\r\n\r\n__Magdalena Szpilka__\r\n I had a client with arthritis in Achilles heal. She was a teacher and she was surprised by her head master that she needed to prepare for inspection in 8 months to keep the job. She passed that and then the pain started. But she also had the kidney conflict active. She is arthritis free after several EFT sessions.\r\n\r\n__Ahmed Eldemellawy__\r\n Achilles tendon is the reason we can stand up. Achilles tendon pulls the weight of the body to stand in erect position. Inflamed tendon has to do with the ability to stand up successfully. The story of the client in Magdalena Szpilka post illustrates how the tendon inflamed after success of the standing erect test against the challenge.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nI\'m a perfect example for both ankle and tendons, and both \"to stand up for oneself\" and \"move forward\" apply.\r\n\r\nWhen I was at age 20 in a very demanding situation where I couldn\'t stand up for myself but fought for my \"roots\" (my parents), I got both a sepsis from the heel (blood, family & identity), and the bones in my left ankle weakened and the joint \"crooked\". After resolution, the joint stabilized but stayed reinforced in ligaments and tendons. That didn\'t stop me from running a half-marathon with this condition though. I have integrated it and take care of it.\r\n\r\nIn recent years, I developed reinforcement or a bursa mostly at the right achilles tendon (not at the insertion but behind the ankle). I felt the need to move something forward while being true to myself plus to \"buffer\", which kept me constantly engaged with partner and peers. It\'s not painful and doesn\'t bother me in moving, and it\'s got generally better, but the connective tissue is reinforced.\r\n\r\n__Asmaa Aboulfotouh__\r\nThanks All ..\r\n\r\n__Gaylene Hansen__\r\n A question for the client: Where are you not feeling supported or trusting yourself to move in a direction you want, and maybe needing someone else to approve?', '0dba837eb6c722d8eac5c4a2181ad7cc', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-0dba837eb6@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(343, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518379026, 10, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Prognathism - protruding jaw', 'Transferred thread from Facebook group:\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\nWhat is the root cause of prognathism ??when a jaw protrudes .. any help ??\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nThere are different possible onsets named here: [https://www.healthline.com/symptom/prognathism] so we\'d need to get more specific, but generally, misalignment in bone/joint structure has to do with either following a need (like in acromegaly \"I need to grow bigger in order to reach that\"), or with self-devaluations regarding the function of the affected jaw (like \"I can\'t bite, therefore I\'m less worth\")\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\nTypically Twins girls have protrusion of the upper jaw .. there mother discovered that since they was 7 years old\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nUpper jaw protrusion can even be connected to a mouth-breathing pattern which is a stress pattern that gets a habit. Did you check whether they breathe through their nose and close their mouth?\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\n I guess a trauma was happened to there mother while she was pregnant\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nIf so, the trauma would probably be around the above named conflicts.\r\n\r\n__Penny Croal__\r\n If they are twins, were they natural or IVF ?\r\nWhat was mother going through when they were in womb I would look at epigenetics regarding self worth particularly around not being able to bite, or obtain food\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\n They are natural.', '7d784b496a4f09e0ab7a864fda4b5d37', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-7d784b496a@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(344, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518379319, 55, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Bronchial asthma', 'Transferred from Facebook group:\r\n\r\n__Rania Ashraf__\r\nHi meta health community, can anyone help and tell me what are the causes behind bronchial asthma?\r\nThank you\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nHi Rania, in terms of conflict background, asthma is triggered by 2 situations: being afraid to lose your position or that someone steals from you is one, the other is speechlessness, often because one feels \"not allowed to speak\" or because of a big fright. These emotions are still present in your life, although the overall situation in life may have changed, so that you react extra sensitive to environmental triggers, as can be dust or fungi. When finding and treating the root causes which are the original trauma, you can get free from asthma. John Rhodes has written an Expert thesis on the topic.\r\n\r\n__Rania Ashraf__\r\n Thank you so much Kora Klapp yeah Actually i feel the 2 triggers.. being afraid to lose what I\'m doing, and big time speechlessness (can\'t say what I have inside)..\r\nWill work on that from now..\r\nBig thanks\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__ Thanks for this informations .. i have also both triggeres ..', '96395c1b297e86f82cfe511018f4d6aa', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-96395c1b29@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(345, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518379685, 12, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Henoch-Schonlein Purpura', 'Transferred info from Facebook group:\r\n\r\n__Chris Whalley__\r\nHi guy\'s advice needed. ...\r\nHas anybody any experience with this set of symptoms. ...\r\n\r\nReally appreciate your suggestions \r\n\r\n\'\'Hello I hope it’s ok to message you, I have been talking to Daren and he highly recommended you. I am hoping for some help with my four year old he has henoch sheonlein purpura an auto immune disease and it has affected his digestive system where he can not eat fruit or veg without it upsetting him, he has kidney issues protein and blood in tests, he gets pain in his chest from irregular heart rhythm, he occasionally has an issue with either liver or gall bladder and his joints and brain, the doctors have no clue what to do with him and I don’t want him pumped full of chemicals but was wondering if you would be able to help even suggest a way of introducing some healthy foods to combat his digestive issues (as I’m sure all the carbs and junk foods are not helping his behaviour) would be a massive help if you are able to help please\'\'\r\n\r\n__Cindy Hubka__ \r\n6 yr old female - diagnosed with Henoch-Schonlein Purpura\r\n1. Wiredness: Right wired\r\n2. Symptom & Location: Rash and swelling in feet and lower legs, joint pain, abdominal\r\npain. Possible KCT involvement? Swelling in legs and abdomen.\r\n3. Brain Relay: Cerebral Cortex; Brain Stem\r\n4. Organ Tissue & Conflict: Epidermis: Loss of Touch; Kidney Collecting Tubules:\r\nFeeling alone.\r\n5. Acute or Chronic: Acute\r\n6. Confirm Phases: Regeneration Phase: The rash/dermatitis that is inflamed and\r\nswollen. Dr. Stephanne says that Petechia is a childish way to get attention as they\r\ndon’t have the tools to express their feelings and their WANTS.\r\n7. Emotion: Felt paralyzed (felt like she was walking on posts) and confused\r\n8. StressTrigger: Baby brother was born and Mom was “sick” and always sleeping\r\n9. Regeneration Trigger: Going to the Doctor and spending time with parents\r\n10. Intervention: EFT for symptoms of loss of touch. Spending the time with Mama and\r\nDaddy.\r\n11. Lifestyles Prescription: Talking about feelings and finding ways to help Mom with\r\nbabe that enables child to spend time with both. Client loved her baby brother, but did notice the difference from before and after baby was born. When baby is nursing, sharing books to look at with Mama and have Mama read.\r\nTaking walks with Mama and babe and having special time with Mama when\r\nshe’s awake and baby is asleep. Learning to ask for attention that is healthy for both Mom and daughter.\r\n\r\n This little person had to have fluids intravenously when she became dehydrated from the vomiting. Time, again is the friend. She had ice chips and popsicles (you can get fresh fruit popsicles. They are easier on the tummy. have you tried EFT for symptoms at all?\r\n\r\n__Chris Whalley__\r\n Thank you Cindy Hubka very informative, I haven\'t met with these people as yet, but wanted to get some insight from anyone here,\r\n\r\n__Cindy Hubka__ Johannes, Dr. Stephane would definitely know more.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nGreat example, Cindy! Chris, as always you look at the symptoms more than at a diagnosis, as they tell you what tissues and functions are affected. Then you want to find out what showed up first, as others can be secondary conflicts. All together, they make a pattern of what conflicts the child is experiencing, and what strategy they come up with. Getting attention is essential for a child, especially when they had a complicated birth or a c section. The younger the child, the more it may also act out parents\' conflicts.\r\n\r\n__Penny Croal__\r\nWhy not hop on a call with myself or one of my practitioners. Feel free to pm me we offer free 20 min consultations to enable you to have a better understanding\r\n\r\n__Chris Whalley__\r\n That is very kind Penny Croal I\'ll be in touch after I have met with this lady and her son,\r\nThank you \r\n\r\n__Avnita Suri__\r\nI haven\'t read all the answers, but I do as Kora does. I start with the main symptom first. This makes the session easier for you and very effective for the client. So, if it\'s \"not being able to eat xx as then gets sick\" then go with that. Or it might be the pain in his chest. Where does the child feel it? Go to the last cycle. I don\'t change this method much if at all; it seems to take a lot off (layer/s) quickly. Feeling that relief will encourage them to carry on. I would also work on the mother so that child is best supported, maybe alternate the sessions with mother and child.', 'd290bbd7bae5a70fda92c5c9619db3fc', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-0-9f4cec23a9@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(346, '6', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518380216, 15, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Proteus Syndrome', 'Transferred info from Facebook group:\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\nHello ..a girl has 6 yrs old\r\nHas proteus syndrom.. how can i help her ??\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nFirst, describe her symptoms :-)\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\n It is a genetic disease\r\nShe got malformation and mental retardations\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed__\r\nProteus syndrome is a rare condition characterized by overgrowth of the bones, skin, and other tissues. Organs and tissues affected by the disease grow out of proportion to the rest of the body. The overgrowth is usually asymmetric, which means it affects the right and left sides of the body differently.\r\n\r\n__Kora Klapp__\r\nThank you. When you know which organs and body side are affected primarily and what handedness she has, we can get more specific and you can deduce the possible conflict pattern she runs, or even what was passed on to her from other generations. Growth hormone is produced in the pituitary and this is enhanced in the stress phase (or reminded of) a conflict of not being big enough to reach or to prevent something. On the other hand, deformations in bones arise by over and over having felt not stable and worthy enough in the affected area. So to help her from this perspective, she needs to feel loved, supported and neutral against fears of incompetence and unworthiness, but not getting the \"reward\" of advantages because of her condition. Deformation also creates attention from others, which can exacerbate the process. If you can gently find out where she really needs attention and support, and make sure she gets the right amount and without pity and \"being special\", this will help her. Using methods like tapping for both her and the family will assist in dealing with emotions and traumas - often, parents are mainly concerned by that.\r\n\r\n__Taghreed Ahmed __Thanks alot', '79a5bfe1ba95df138339a7b0d39d31ae', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', NULL, 'Kora-0-79a5bfe1ba@www.meta-health.net', '', NULL, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
(347, '7', 'forum', 0, 'Kora', 1518626324, 8, 'n', '0.00', 0, '0.0000', 'Krebsentstehung und Entzündung', 'Die neuere Forschung nähert sich an unser Verständnis an. Für einen pathologischen Verlauf sind bleibende Reize/Störfelder/Konflikte oder Rezidivierende Prozesse mit Entzündung verantwortlich, die Bedingungen von herabgesetzter Resilienz voraussetzen.\r\n\r\n\"Krebs beginnt mit einem biologischen oder chemischen Reiz.\r\n- Hält dieser Einfluss an, scheitert die normale Wundheilung, und es entsteht eine chronische Entzündung (diese unterscheidet sich von herkömmlicher Entzündung).\r\n- Die Entzündung geht in eine Fibrose über: dieses Bindegewebe ist pathologisch verändert, das Mikromilieu verändert sich, was die Zell-Zell-Kommunikation ändert (hier wird u.a. auch die Apoptose gehemmt).\r\n- Dadurch entsteht eine präkanzeröse Nische – eine wesentliche Vorstufe von Krebs.\r\n- Gelingt es dem Organismus nicht, diesen chronischen Stress für Zellen und Gewebe aufzulösen oder umzukehren, wandelt sich eine Zelle in eine Krebszelle um.\"\r\n[http://news.doccheck.com/de/201422/onkologie-am-anfang-war-die-entzuendung/]', 'c116b9e90e6a0c81d70fc0d7a4663861', '', '', '88.15.203.8', '', '', 'Kora-0-3fa7faf60e@www.meta-health.net', '', 0, NULL, 'y', 'n'),
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